Fox News and CNN up to their old bag of tricks...again

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My hats off to Saagar Enjeti and other conservatives like him who refused to get duped by Trump and his Israeli overlords.

War propaganda worked wonders the last time most Americans got hoodwinked by GWB and the neocons 20 something years ago... difference is this time less effort on an even dumber American populace, more effort to fool us not needed as long as you have millions of mouthbreathers like Baller234, Hey Yo, Chewing, BigKobeFan etc eating it all up no questions asked...if most Americans again fall for these blatant lies, then it's no question we are living in the dumbest nation on earth, easily. No critical thinking skills, at all. Too lazy and stupid to do your own research, again taking what warmongers like Micheal Bolton is serving up hot and ready.

We truly are a bunch of apes with nuclear weapons, we won't last this century at the retarded pace we're at.

The public is easily duped by war propaganda, and there's no greater example than the war in Ukraine, where all the Dems had their I stand with Ukraine avatars. The narrative from the media was a simplistic narrative of Putin just randomly, out of the blue, woke up one day and decided to invade Ukraine on that day (though it requires a lot of preparation, can't just be done randomly), and that they want to take the whole of Ukraine with just 120,000 soldiers (need at least a million), and thus we have to send them 175 billion dollars.

The greatest example for people like me is USAID, which is promoted by the media as a caring humanity aid of the US government, but its main purpose is to destabilize countries by duping their local population into believing that they're acting on their own grassroots impulses, when in reality they are being manipulated by the agenda of those who run the West.

A great example is Victoria Nuland talking about spending 5 billion dollars, through USAID to do the 2014 coup in Ukraine. You had all these Ukrainian protesting, causing chaos, and eventually a coup.

You see a similar duping with the left and the Tesla protests. People are suckers.

People are stupid, (particularly the woke, for example, I see the people in Libya who destroyed their country, leading to open slave markets, to be equal to woke protestors). But yeah, people are stupid and at the same time they're targeted by a sophisticated, government influence that controls the information they see. The real lack of critical thinking is believing that your side is the one telling the truth.

[QUOTE=jstern;15016975]The public is easily duped by war propaganda, and there's no greater example than the war in Ukraine, where all the Dems had their I stand with Ukraine avatars. The narrative from the media was a simplistic narrative of Putin just randomly, out of the blue, woke up one day and decided to invade Ukraine on that day (though it requires a lot of preparation, can't just be done randomly), and that they want to take the whole of Ukraine with just 120,000 soldiers (need at least a million), and thus we have to send them 175 billion dollars.

The greatest example for people like me is USAID, which is promoted by the media as a caring humanity aid of the US government, but its main purpose is to destabilize countries by duping their local population into believing that they're acting on their own grassroots impulses, when in reality they are being manipulated by the agenda of those who run the West.

A great example is Victoria Nuland talking about spending 5 billion dollars, through USAID to do the 2014 coup in Ukraine. You had all these Ukrainian protesting, causing chaos, and eventually a coup.

You see a similar duping with the left and the Tesla protests. People are suckers.

People are stupid, (particularly the woke, for example, I see the people in Libya who destroyed their country, leading to open slave markets, to be equal to woke protestors). But yeah, people are stupid and at the same time they're targeted by a sophisticated, government influence that controls the information they see. The real lack of critical thinking is believing that your side is the one telling the truth.[/QUOTE]

very interesting, could you go into more detail? this is a fascinating read i must say.

[QUOTE=jstern;15016975]The public is easily duped by war propaganda, and there's no greater example than the war in Ukraine, where all the Dems had their I stand with Ukraine avatars. The narrative from the media was a simplistic narrative of Putin just randomly, out of the blue, woke up one day and decided to invade Ukraine on that day (though it requires a lot of preparation, can't just be done randomly), and that they want to take the whole of Ukraine with just 120,000 soldiers (need at least a million), and thus we have to send them 175 billion dollars.

The greatest example for people like me is USAID, which is promoted by the media as a caring humanity aid of the US government, but its main purpose is to destabilize countries by duping their local population into believing that they're acting on their own grassroots impulses, when in reality they are being manipulated by the agenda of those who run the West.

A great example is Victoria Nuland talking about spending 5 billion dollars, through USAID to do the 2014 coup in Ukraine. You had all these Ukrainian protesting, causing chaos, and eventually a coup.

You see a similar duping with the left and the Tesla protests. People are suckers.

People are stupid, (particularly the woke, for example, I see the people in Libya who destroyed their country, leading to open slave markets, to be equal to woke protestors). But yeah, people are stupid and at the same time they're targeted by a sophisticated, government influence that controls the information they see. The real lack of critical thinking is believing that your side is the one telling the truth.[/QUOTE]

You're strictly looking at it through the Red vs Blue team perspective, I'm going beyond that. Just a few weeks ago, nobody in Trump's administration was talking about Iran, all of a sudden now we're racing against the clock to deny Iran a nuclear bomb, that doesn't strike anyone as fishy af? No BS meters going off at all? I've said this before, the only thing I supported MAGA on was their no more endless wars, no more meddling in other countries affairs, America first, I think most of us can agree on that but here we are, MAGA getting behind yet another ME intervention, only worse now, we're risking pariah state status to do the biggest terrorist state's dirty work for them, Israel.

Honestly I am not sure anyone is duped by anything any more. Literally every time I see someone link an MSM it is to call out the article and say fake news.

If there was one it would be FOX viewers though, that is the only news outlet who's ratings haven't completely tanked into the gutter because they have an old boomer audience that hasn't moved onto streaming yet.

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What else do you got for us Van Jones? lol.

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[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15017201]What else do you got for us Van Jones? lol.

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[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017152]Honestly I am not sure anyone is duped by anything any more. Literally every time I see someone link an MSM it is to call out the article and say fake news.

If there was one it would be FOX viewers though, that is the only news outlet who's ratings haven't completely tanked into the gutter because they have an old boomer audience that hasn't moved onto streaming yet.[/QUOTE]

Comedic timing on your assessment here, just this week here on the board bladed linked to a story in the MSM, not from Fox but CNN, and him, TheMan, heighweight and Retard3 were all duped by by it, none of them even mentioned the idea it could be fake news.

[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521896-Trump-just-bombed-Iran-ANTI-WAR-DOE!!!!!&p=15017334&viewfull=1#post15017334"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521896-Trump-just-bombed-Iran-ANTI-WAR-DOE!!!!!&p=15017334&viewfull=1#post15017334[/URL]

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15018001]Comedic timing on your assessment here, just this week here on the board bladed linked to a story in the MSM, not from Fox but CNN, and him, TheMan, heighweight and Retard3 were all duped by by it, none of them even mentioned the idea it could be fake news.

[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521896-Trump-just-bombed-Iran-ANTI-WAR-DOE!!!!!&p=15017334&viewfull=1#post15017334"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521896-Trump-just-bombed-Iran-ANTI-WAR-DOE!!!!!&p=15017334&viewfull=1#post15017334[/URL][/QUOTE]
Fair enough. I was wrong about the "literally every time someone links"

I really meant more in a thread title sort of way, like if CNN or MSM is the subject itself. I know people link MSM in here all the time, probably every day. I just mean "duped" in that I think pretty much the entire population understands that almost all of MSM is biased and slanted in some way and they are to be taken with a grain of salt. And with the exception of FOX News, all MSM ratings are in the toilet. No one is watching.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018005]Fair enough. I was wrong about the "literally every time someone links"

I really meant more in a thread title sort of way, like if CNN or MSM is the subject itself. I know people link MSM in here all the time, probably every day. I just mean "duped" in that I think pretty much the entire population understands that almost all of MSM is biased and slanted in some way and they are to be taken with a grain of salt. And with the exception of FOX News, all MSM ratings are in the toilet. No one is watching.[/QUOTE]
I didn't even respond to that post, ZenDisaster is arguing with the voices in his head again :oldlol:

The term "fake news" feels like it's a decade old now. And everyone gets it. We all know news is biased. Everyone under the age of 60 anyway. And ratings have plummeted, both because of chord cutting and because people have had enough. Except for FOX News and I think that is because they have the old people.

Everyone goes to social media for their info now. That is why Musk bought Twitter. He knew that was a much better source to influence the population. And it is, he can insta-reach millions every tweet, it is significantly more reach than CNN has currently. And he can throw out lots of unpopular political opinions under the guise of "free speech" which MSM can not do.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018035]The term "fake news" feels like it's a decade old now. And everyone gets it. We all know news is biased. Everyone under the age of 60 anyway. And ratings have plummeted, both because of chord cutting and because people have had enough. Except for FOX News and I think that is because they have the old people.

Everyone goes to social media for their info now. That is why Musk bought Twitter. He knew that was a much better source to influence the population. And it is, he can insta-reach millions every tweet, it is significantly more reach than CNN has currently. [/QUOTE]



That is why you have manufactured news, false flag events, and distractions (like No Kings perhaps?)

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[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018035]And he can throw out lots of unpopular political opinions under the guise of "free speech" which MSM can not do.[/QUOTE]

I love how censorship on X is an issue.... but censorship on Twitter was not.

Censorship was not an issue on Twitter? :oldlol: That makes me think you never actually looked in there. The endless amount of whining about that. I think that is a huge part of why Musk thought he can just waltz and appease the population. But now we all see he is just as guilty of suppressing things. But hey you can say the n-word now! Free Speech right?

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018051]Censorship was not an issue on Twitter? :oldlol: That makes me think you never actually looked in there. The endless amount of whining about that. I think that is a huge part of why Musk thought he can just waltz and appease the population. But now we all see he is just as guilty of suppressing things. But hey you can say the n-word now! Free Speech right?[/QUOTE]

No... the argument coming from Left during Covid is that Twitter can do whatever they f*ck they want.... If you have a problem with it, start your own social media platform.

Now that Elon is doing whatever the f*ck he wants... it's a problem.



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".... but Elon"

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15018052]No... the argument coming from Left during Covid is that Twitter can do whatever they f*ck they want.... If you have a problem with it, start your own social media platform.

Now that Elon is doing whatever the f*ck he wants... it's a problem.


".... but Elon"[/QUOTE]

It's his platform to do what he wants, but when he spews retarded shit we are also free to call him a retard. I mean, that's how it works. You have the freedom to say stupid things, and we have the freedom to call you stupid.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018051]But hey you can say the n-word now! Free Speech right?[/QUOTE]



You're acting like the N-Word causes heart disease, obesity, and cancer.... According to CNN, that is the case.

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[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018072]It's his platform to do what he wants, but when he spews retarded shit we are also free to call him a retard. I mean, that's how it works. [B]You have the freedom to say stupid things, and we have the freedom to call you stupid.[/B][/QUOTE]

But that wasn't the case on Twitter before Elon purchased it. On Twitter you [I]didn't[/I] have the freedom to say certain things. You weren't even allowed to post factual information regarding a political candidate running for president. Such was also case on Facebook, Instagram and Youtube in regard to Covid. Factual information was labelled "disinfo". And while all this was happening, you guys were twiddling your thumbs singing dixie. In some cases you were actively cheering it on.

So don't pretend like now you are some free speech warrior. You guys wanted the other side totally silenced and unable to push back.

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15018086]You're acting like the N-Word causes heart disease, obesity, and cancer.... According to CNN, that is the case.
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No I wasn't :oldlol:

I was acting like you can say it on Twitter now

[QUOTE=Baller234;15018097]But that wasn't the case on Twitter before Elon purchased it. On Twitter you [I]didn't[/I] have the freedom to say certain things. You weren't even allowed to post factual information regarding a political candidate running for president. Such was also case on Facebook, Instagram and Youtube in regard to Covid. Factual information was labelled "disinfo". And while all this was happening, you guys were twiddling your thumbs singing dixie. In some cases you were actively cheering it on.

So don't pretend like now you are some free speech warrior. You guys wanted the other side totally silenced and unable to push back.[/QUOTE]

LOL this is complete crap. When Twitter was under Dorsey there were Flat-Earthers, dumb conspiracies, racists, retards, and everything else. In fact it was literally the exact same people that are on there right now :oldlol:

Reality is, a handful of people like Alex Jones got banned, and then people like you pretend like everything ever is gone from Twitter.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018035]The term "fake news" feels like it's a decade old now. And everyone gets it. We all know news is biased. Everyone under the age of 60 anyway. And ratings have plummeted, both because of chord cutting and because people have had enough. Except for FOX News and I think that is because they have the old people.

Everyone goes to social media for their info now. That is why Musk bought Twitter. He knew that was a much better source to influence the population. And it is, he can insta-reach millions every tweet, it is significantly more reach than CNN has currently. And he can throw out lots of unpopular political opinions under the guise of "free speech" which MSM can not do.[/QUOTE]

Everyone goes to social media for their info now, but the difference between twitter and why a platform like bluesky doesn't really take off is that on twitter, news is a major content driver and people(on the right) engage with it, discuss it, what it means, if it's real, if it's logical, share it etc. On bluesky when it comes to news, people(on the left) mostly just listen and most people who went to bluesky did so to follow someone who left twitter, so in essence they're only there to be told information shared by an influencer who makes the same point as on CNN, ABC etc.

Bluesky you create your own feed set up and filters. It's biggest issue is just a userbase.

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But Threads is gaining on Twitter. And Threads has a decent lineup of active celeb and athlete users.

[url]https://www.threads.com/@stephencurry30[/url]

Instagram is setup now to where they throw Thread posts into Instagram feeds, which has a much larger userbase than Twitter. Threads is going to eventually eclipse Twitter.

BlueSky has the cleanest set up and feel of all of them, the hard part for them is convincing people to look their way when everyone is so used to looking at what is currently established.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018099]LOL this is complete crap. When Twitter was under Dorsey there were Flat-Earthers, dumb conspiracies, racists, retards, and everything else. In fact it was literally the exact same people that are on there right now :oldlol:

Reality is, a handful of people like Alex Jones got banned, and then people like you pretend like everything ever is gone from Twitter.[/QUOTE]

You were not allowed to be "racist" on Twitter. You couldn't even flirt with being racist. It was a f'n left wing safe haven where you could get suspended for any perceived insult or microaggression towards a "protected class". Basically anyone who wasn't straight or white.

The intelligence agencies were meeting with company heads on a routine basis and instructing them to censor accounts that were helping to spread opposing narratives.

These events we're arguing about weren't that long ago. I refuse to believe you can "misremember" things this badly.

You just don't want to admit you were on the wrong side of history.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018005]I just mean "duped" in that I think pretty much the entire population understands that almost all of MSM is biased and slanted in some way and they are to be taken with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]


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Hey look at this, a Democrat admitting they were fooled by the MSM narrative, and furthermore admitting that Biden f*cked up.



Secondly... I thought Propaganda wasn't needed anymore in the No Kings thread?


[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018005]Propaganda isn't needed like it used to be. And when it is needed, it's usually for a vote. [/QUOTE]

what is your definition of propaganda? From the Oxford English Dictionary:


[i]information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.[/i]




So basically the entire MSM is propaganda in 2025.... but propaganda isn't needed like it used to be?

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You're just turning this into a semantics debate over what "propaganda" means.

If you wanted, you could declare that we are all spewing propaganda in here. All over social media people are spewing propaganda. If it is just throwing about opinions and trying to convince others to think a certain way.

Very similar to just "advertising"

In the other thread it was in regards to war. WW2 times vs now. And no, the US no longer needs to convince the population that it's coming war is justified. Trump may say this and that, and tweet out that he is doing the right thing. But we no longer need mass propaganda to sell people because we no longer need a trillion troops to storm beaches. We bomb and that is it.

I mean obviously. Where are all the uncle sam posters for this Iran war? Pointing at us and saying "we need you"?

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15018734]You're just turning this into a semantics debate over what "propaganda" means.

If you wanted, you could declare that we are all spewing propaganda in here. All over social media people are spewing propaganda. If it is just throwing about opinions and trying to convince others to think a certain way.

Very similar to just "advertising"

In the other thread it was in regards to war. WW2 times vs now. And no, the US no longer needs to convince the population that it's coming war is justified. Trump may say this and that, and tweet out that he is doing the right thing. But we no longer need mass propaganda to sell people because we no longer need a trillion troops to storm beaches. We bomb and that is it.

I mean obviously. Where are all the uncle sam posters for this Iran war? Pointing at us and saying "we need you"?[/QUOTE]


we didn't need to justify our occupation of Iraq? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and yet we didn't have to sell a WMD lie to the public?

WTF am I doing? debating a teenager that isn't old enough to remember recent history?


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[quote]U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell holds up a vial he said could contain anthrax as he presents evidence of Iraq's alleged weapons programs to the United Nations Security Council in this Feb. 5, 2003 file photo. Powell's claims about the weaponry, all of which have since been refuted, were used by the Bush administration to sell the world on its imperialist invasion and occupation of Iraq.[/quote]

Operation Desert Storm (Iraq) and the occupation of the Middle East happened without any warning or propaganda at all.

The post 9/11 invasion to follow would happened no matter what we thought as well. And the entire population thought is that the US was going in to steal oil. No one was for that war. Bush Jr was horribly unpopular for it. You must be the young one here if your memory was something else.



You sweet sweet innocent mind. Believing that our Government actually cares about our thoughts :roll:

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15019077]Operation Desert Storm (Iraq) and the occupation of the Middle East happened without any warning or propaganda at all.

The post 9/11 invasion to follow would happened no matter what we thought as well. And the entire population thought is that the US was going in to steal oil. No one was for that war. Bush Jr was horribly unpopular for it. You must be the young one here if your memory was something else.

You sweet sweet innocent mind. Believing that our Government actually cares about our thoughts :roll:[/QUOTE]


So I see you're going to disregard the WMD propaganda all together.

Yes, I remember Bush talking about taking action before we see a mushroom cloud.


And no, they weren't horribly unpopular when the war was launched... it was after the fact that no WMDs were discovered.


[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_in_the_United_States_on_the_invasion_of_Iraq[/url]
[b]Public opinion in the United States on the invasion of Iraq[/b]

[quote]Following the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001, United States' popular opinion was seemingly for an invasion of Iraq. According to the CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll, conducted on October 3–6, 2002, 53% of Americans said they favor invading Iraq with U.S. ground troops in an attempt to remove Saddam Hussein from power. The American public's support for the war fluctuated between 50% and 60% during the aftermath of the attacks on 9/11.[6]

When asked whether or not the United States should attack a country that has not attacked the United States first, the American public's opinion was in support with 51%, whereas when Iraq was embedded into the question the attitude shifted and there was a shift to 66% of Americans agreeing that the U.S. should be able to invade Iraq first. [/quote]



Wow.... I'm surprised there's an entire wiki page about public opinion.... since the Government doesn't give a f*ck about it.