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I guess that's what happens when a 20PPG, shot blocking, three point shooting 7'3" center can't stay on the court and has a mysterious virus. His worth turns into Georges Niang + a second rounder.
Niang is the not that good player in the opposing t team that I found myself disliking whenever they played the Celtics. Ugh.
Atlanta may have gotten a steal and also may have been robbed. KP's health is a Rollercoaster like that. I wish him well though, can't hold the health issues against him and when he was right the Celtics were the best team in the league.
Raises the odds the team keeps Kornet.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15017322]Niang is the not that good player in the opposing t team that I fitness myself disliking whenever they played the Celtics. Ugh.
Atlanta may have gotten a steal and also may have been robbed. KP's health is a Rollercoaster like that. I wish him well though, can't hold the health issues against him and when he was right the Celtics were the best team in the league.
Raises the odds the team keeps Kornet.[/QUOTE]
Niang a 7th or 8th guy off the bench basically. Serviceable, will give you effort and threes, but will make dumb mistakes too.
The Nets now have 5 first round picks after this. Wonder if they’re going to offer them for Giannis?
[QUOTE=Meticode;15017323]Niang a 7th or 8th guy off the bench basically. Serviceable, will give you effort and threes, but will make dumb mistakes too.[/QUOTE]I would trade him for a bottle of Sam Adam's cherry wheat and a pound of smoked brisket.
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Makes sense, Hawks are kind of the perfect team to gamble on KP, theyre on the treadmill as is with no surefire way to get off it quickly in one direction or the other. If he doesnt ever play a game for them it doesnt really change what they were doing anyway and they gave up relatively little. If he plays the full season and plays well, and so does the rest of the team, their ceiling could be a second round, *maybe* conference finals team if everything bounces their way in a depleted east. Which is obviously better than missing the playoffs like they did this year.
I also thought KP was very underused as a rim roller in Boston. That shouldnt be an issue playing alongside Trae. They should be a fun tandem to watch.
With the obvious caveat that everything is predicated on him being able to stay on the court.
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;15017327][IMG]https://media.tenor.com/Ke7Hwf-Gp-QAAAAM/dancing-spiderman.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] Is wide open for Philly now. I'm sure they'll have another great year.
I like niang. Worked himself into a rotation player from the gleafue
Multiple reputable people have said they started listening to offers for Brown too though they aren’t outright soliciting them. Apparently it’s gone from ignoring them to considering it.
They really might go scorched earth. They really could get themselves a thunder like haul where they have 20ish first round picks the next 5 to 7 years if they wanted to.
If they get rid of brown, they might as well try to find four first rounders for white as well.
Get themselves more than a dozen total picks have 80 or 90 million in cap space tank next season And see who wants to come play with Tatum and all the first rounders in the world.
if you’re gonna blow it up, don’t **** around with it.
I wouldn't say JB is untradeable but if Desmond Bane can get 5 firsts then the price needs to be astronomical. Especially when seeing how the team looks when Tatum returns is a pretty good option. They could even still tank next year by just giving Brown a ridiculous amount of rest.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15017337]I wouldn't say JB is untradeable but if Desmond Bane can get 5 firsts then the price needs to be astronomical. Especially when seeing how the team looks when Tatum returns is a pretty good option. They could even still tank next year by just giving Brown a ridiculous amount of rest.[/QUOTE]
Should be playoff team in the lEast anyway
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15017338]Should be playoff team in the lEast anyway[/QUOTE]
They can if they want but if they traded or have the year odd to Brown or would be a bad team. You can't lose 4 or
Utof 5 starters including the only two Allstars and still be competitive I don't care who you are.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15017339]They can if they want but if they traded or have the year odd to Brown or would be a bad team. You can't lose 4 or
Utof 5 starters including the only two Allstars and still be competitive I don't care who you are.[/QUOTE]
Jazz lost their only all star and were 6th seed in the better conference
Als9 barely missed playoffs after stockton and malone. If you are in the east you should expect to make it to the play in. Got to be trying real hard not to or be philly
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15017340]Jazz lost their only all star and were 6th seed in the better conference[/QUOTE] The Jazz roster has nothing to do with the Celtics. Completely different set of players. No one cares about your team or your issues. Go away.
Sure Brown is worth more than Bane, but I’m not sure how much bigger the Hauls can get when you aren’t looking to get a star player in return. You’d have to identify a potential star like SGA in the Paul trade and get picks on top of it.
The Cavs in the 80s ****ed it up for everybody so the NBA has a max on picks you can trade and how many consecutive ones you can include.
To go on five you have to trade some that you own from somebody else already. It’s a whole ordeal to arrange it. And you can’t trade more than seven years out. You can trade no more than five of your next seven…of your own. It’s why teams include pick swaps instead.
It’s hard for packages to get much bigger than five first rounders and a prospect.
I might call a young team on the cusp of something like the Pistons, maybe. Magic already gave up a haul. Really don’t know who to target.
with the Mavs in full win now mode, what do you think they would say if you call and ask for Flagg an offer a replacement for Kyrie that gives them a window this coming year?
I assume they say no, but those are the kind of deals I would be looking for
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;15017348]Sure Brown is worth more than vain, but I’m not sure how much bigger the holes can get when you aren’t looking to get a star player in return. You’d have to identify a potential star like SGA in the Paul trade and get picks on top of it.
The Cavs in the 80s ****ed it up for everybody so the NBA has a max on picks you can trade and how many consecutive ones you can include.
To go on five you have to trade some that you own from somebody else already. It’s a whole ordeal to arrange it. And you can’t trade more than seven years out. You can trade no more than five of your next seven…of your own. It’s why teams include pick swaps instead.
It’s hard for packages to get much bigger than five first rounders and a prospect.
I might call a young team on the cusp of something like the Pistons, maybe. Magic already gave up a haul. Really don’t know who to target.
with the Mavs in full win now mode, what do you think they would say if you call and ask for Flagg an offer a replacement for Kyrie that gives them a window this coming year?
I assume they say no, but those are the kind of deals I would be looking for[/QUOTE]
Brown also has a contract 33% larger than Bane.
And honestly Bane with his shooting might be the more valuable "fit" for a lot of teams even if he's not "better" the way most people measure it in terms of iso scoring ability. In reality if Bane is a 6, Brown is probably a 7. It's only in a Celtic homer's mind that Bane is a 6 and Brown is a 20.
But yeah theres just not a lot of avenues for giving away a guy making 50 million without taking back commensurate salary. Teams that would want to add him are all generally over the salary cap and would have to move a lot of role players to clear the way, and then it might not even be worth it.
Maybe offer brown to spurs. It be vassell Kelton and like 6 1sts. This is unless the 2nd overall pick is included then might be like 2-3 other picks
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15017330]Is wide open for Philly now. I'm sure they'll have another great year.[/QUOTE]
The Celtics are not done trading. They are trying to move off jalen brown right now too for a Center. I personally wanted to be the one to tell you before the news breaks.
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[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;15017379]The Celtics are not done trading. They are trying to move off jalen brown right now too for a Center. I personally wanted to be the one to tell you before the news breaks.
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[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15017388]Philly would like to trade Embiid and George they just can't find anyone to take them.[/QUOTE]
O you are here perfect. You're not trading with us. But im glad i was the one to break the news to you lol. Enjoy your new center
Boston gonna be in the lottery next year.
I could see the Hornets having interest in pairing Jaylen Brown with Lamelo Ball to add some defense and leadership to the starting backcourt. They could send the Celtics Mark Williams and Grant Williams and Miles Bridges.
Thatd be about 5 million less salary coming in to the C's than going out, plus they could further distribute any of those guys elsewhere if need be.
The Hornets would still suck but Brown would at least give the roster some degree of credibility which it severely lacks at the moment. They have nobody who is accomplished and nobody who is going to be accomplished. Including Sideshow Melo, other than some all star fan votes. With JB they would simply be "a pretty bad team" which is a step up from their current and foreseeable status of "absolute irrelevant joke."
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;15017390]O you are here perfect. You're not trading with us. But im glad i was the one to break the news to you lol. Enjoy your new center[/QUOTE]
What news? You stated an opinion. Enjoy your same old center. For about 30 games.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15017395]Boston gonna be in the lottery next year.[/QUOTE]
add the S to that last word. its about to be plural
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[QUOTE=NBAGOAT;15017357]Maybe offer brown to spurs. It be vassell Kelton and like 6 1sts. This is unless the 2nd overall pick is included then might be like 2-3 other picks[/QUOTE]
I don't think you understand how much value Harper has around the league if you think Harper is worth between 3 and 4 draft picks in a Brown trade proposal.
[QUOTE=Carbine;15017411]I don't think you understand how much value Harper has around the league if you think Harper is worth between 3 and 4 draft picks in a Brown trade proposal.[/QUOTE]
ah i assume unprotected future picks tbf. then celtics get 0-1 other picks then
Yikes just got rid of their two most important players with mediocre returns
Boston back to mediocrity for the next 10 years :oldlol:
Not sure why Boston is gutting their stacked team but I love it.
Keep Brown there. Let Tatum and Brown try to win with this. They won‘t.
Hopefully they trade Pritchard or some shit.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15017438]Not sure why Boston is gutting their stacked team but I love it.
Keep Brown there. Let Tatum and Brown try to win with this. They won‘t.
Hopefully they trade Pritchard or some shit.[/QUOTE]
Money. Pritchard is not getting traded, he has an amazing contract. They can tank next year and get another rotation guy/potential star on a rookie deal from the draft. With the new CBA rules more teams will look to stack 1st round picks and build a young roster with guys on rookie deals around their star player (like OKC). It buys them a window where they can have a stacked team before the rookie deals expire like they did with Tatum & Brown.
The tank is all fueled up. Celtics with a top 5 pick next year.
I'll probably watch more hockey next season.
Crazy how Zingis had just one great playoff series for Boston and was trash otherwise in the playoffs, either hurt or mid, but it just so happened to occur at the best moment for them. If Zingis played how he has in any of these other playoff series in the Finals vs Dallas, Luka and Kyrie would've won that shit.
[QUOTE=tpols;15017462]Crazy how Zingis had just one great playoff series for Boston and was trash otherwise in the playoffs, either hurt or mid, but it just so happened to occur at the best moment for them. If Zingis played how he has in any of these other playoff series in the Finals vs Dallas, Luka and Kyrie would've won that shit.[/QUOTE]
He played 60 total minutes in the finals.
For your math, that's one game and one quarter.
Celtics rotation 2025-2026 with no other significant changes:
PG: Pritchard / Simons
SG: White / Simons
SF: Brown / Hauser
PF: Horford[B]*[/B] / Niang
C: Kornet / Queta
*Pending retirement decision
TRASH defense. Mediocre offense. Not terrible enough to guarantee a top 4 pick.
[QUOTE=tpols;15017462]Crazy how Zingis had just one great playoff series for Boston and was trash otherwise in the playoffs, either hurt or mid, but it just so happened to occur at the best moment for them. If Zingis played how he has in any of these other playoff series in the Finals vs Dallas, Luka and Kyrie would've won that shit.[/QUOTE]
I appreciate what he did in helping us during his 2 seasons here (really 1 with the time he missed), but they guy can not be relied upon when the lights are the brightest.
[QUOTE=Wally450;15017480]I appreciate what he did in helping us during his 2 seasons here (really 1 with the time he missed), [B]but they guy can not be relied upon when the lights are the brightest[/B].[/QUOTE]
That was the only time he showed up.
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You guys didn't even really need him for the 1st three rounds given context of what your opponents were.
I don't hold the injuries and illnness against him either but he did nothing in the Ƙnicks series when the Celtics got eliminated. Had he been up to his healthy standard the Celtics could have won that series even worth Tatum getting hurt. It's not his fault that he's unreliable but it's the reality. The game and a half of minutes vs a Dallas team that got mashed 4-1 doesn't change that fact. The way he tried to play with his various issues did get him permanent respect from most Celtic fans but we fully understand why he was a target when it came to cutting costs.