Lakers trying to trade for Andrew Wiggins.

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The Miami Heat are reportedly seeking a first-round pick, Dalton Knecht, and Rui Hachimura from the Lakers in trade talks centered around Andrew Wiggins, per @jovanbuha

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What? Either the Heat are crazy for thinking that will happen, or the Lakers need to open up cap space for a blockbuster signing. That's a completely lopsided deal in favor of the Heat.

With Luka & Reaves already having defensive limitations it makes sense as to why they are trying to get rid of Dalton. You lose some size getting rid of Rui, but it explains the push they are making for Horford.

Maybe LA is waiting to see if they can grab Horford before they make the deal.

Does he rim run?

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15019818]With Luka & Reaves already having defensive limitations it makes sense as to why they are trying to get rid of Dalton. You lose some size getting rid of Rui, but it explains the push they are making for Horford.

Maybe LA is waiting to see if they can grab Horford before they make the deal.[/QUOTE]

I assume they are thinking Lebron is leaving and Giannis is coming in next season

This trade seems to not have much legs. Miami has a full roster. Knecht and Rui don't make enough to match the incoming $28M that Wiggins makes.

I also don't see LeBron wanting to play PF all season.

I think I'd quicker see Miami pull a blockbuster to acquire LeBron + Bronny for some package based on Wiggins, Rozier, and firsts. It would likely involve another team.

But Mitchell, Herro, LeBron, Bam, and Ware instantly become a top 3 starting lineup in the East

Luka Lebron Wiggins Ayton is a pretty strong top 4. Really strong actually. Better top end than I think any team maybe.

[QUOTE=tpols;15019907]Luka Lebron Wiggins Ayton is a pretty strong top 4. Really strong actually. Better top end than I think any team maybe.[/QUOTE]
Be fighting for a play in again with that kind of talent

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15019909]Be fighting for a play in again with that kind of talent[/QUOTE]

If theyre all healthy no chance. Youre wildly off. Lakers right now are sitting at #4 spot in the title odds and thats without Wiggins. Theyre ahead of the wolves as well.

Luka without rim runners. Old man river. A bum. Wiggins was a bum as well before gs. A coach that didntvtruat in his bench. Not seeing it

[QUOTE=tpols;15019907]Luka Lebron Wiggins Ayton is a pretty strong top 4. Really strong actually. Better top end than I think any team maybe.[/QUOTE]


On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.

I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15019955]On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.

I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.[/QUOTE]

You are forgetting the greatness of bronnie

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15019912]Luka without rim runners. Old man river. A bum. Wiggins was a bum as well before gs. A coach that didntvtruat in his bench. Not seeing it[/QUOTE]

Ayton is a rim runner.

Good call to trade Rui, got exposed against T-Wolves.

I don't know why Lebron is so adamant to trade Knecht, except that he's white. Knecht is going to be a really solid player.

[QUOTE=90sgoat;15019988]Ayton is a rim runner.[/QUOTE]

I was gonna say... when I watched him play in Pheonix when they made Finals, he was definitely dipping into the paint all the time off the PnR. I think Xiao is confusing lob threat with roll man. Hes not daniel gafford. Hes much more skilled.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15019955]On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.

I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=tpols;15019990]I was gonna say... when I watched him play in Pheonix when they made Finals, he was definitely dipping into the paint all the time off the PnR. I think Xiao is confusing lob threat with roll man. Hes not daniel gafford. Hes much more skilled.[/QUOTE]
Gafford isnt a bum though

Looks like wiggins is highly sought for the timely contributions he made during the 2022 finals.

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[QUOTE=tpols;15019910]If theyre all healthy no chance. Youre wildly off. Lakers right now are sitting at #4 spot in the title odds and thats without Wiggins. Theyre ahead of the wolves as well.[/QUOTE]

Title odds don't actually mean anything though. Ayton does not move the needle at all for the Lakers in the playoffs, although he will help during the regular season.

Not sure that adding Wiggins to this current team does much either...

The Lakers have talent but so much of it is redundant. They simply aren't going to be a well built team with Luka/Lebron/Reaves unless the rest of the roster is very specifically filled out.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15020002]Title odds don't actually mean anything though. Ayton does not move the needle at all for the Lakers in the playoffs, although he will help during the regular season.

Not sure that adding Wiggins to this current team does much either...

The Lakers have talent but so much of it is redundant. They simply aren't going to be a well built team with Luka/Lebron/Reaves unless the rest of the roster is very specifically filled out.[/QUOTE]


Dude I suggest you check DeAndre Aytons playoff numbers. He has great production, super efficient with always double double. Hes a MASSIVE upgrade for Lakers over Jackson Hayes or whoever.

If anything you have it backwards. His numbers were better in the playoffs than they were in the regular season. I checked the numbers and didnt believe them myself.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15019955]On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.

I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.[/QUOTE]
Empty stats.

[QUOTE=90sgoat;15019989]Good call to trade Rui, got exposed against T-Wolves.

[B]I don't know why Lebron is so adamant to trade Knecht, except that he's white.[/B] Knecht is going to be a really solid player.[/QUOTE]

He's played with Reeves for several years, does he seem adamant to trade him? You think he didn't sign off off on Luka? GTFO with this bullshit, man.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15019818]With Luka & Reaves already having defensive limitations it makes sense as to why they are trying to get rid of Dalton. You lose some size getting rid of Rui, but it explains the push they are making for Horford.

Maybe LA is waiting to see if they can grab Horford before they make the deal.[/QUOTE]

Horford? Is LA trying to put together a team of 40-year-olds?


And LOL at the autistic idiot melting down in this thread. :lol





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So true.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15020017]Empty stats.[/QUOTE]

Not at all.

I watched him dismantle the Mavs defense and score at will in the playoffs until Luka took over.

He's a very talented scorer from the low block to midrange.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15019955]On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.

I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.[/QUOTE]

Wiggins had personal issues(dad died). He was solid last year. Lakers shouldn’t give up a 1st however. Rui is pretty good and knecht is enough of an asset

Curry won a chip with him

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15020086]Curry won a chip with him[/QUOTE]

weak year

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15020087]weak year[/QUOTE]

Cope

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15020087]weak year[/QUOTE]

2020 was a joke, and 2023 was a weak year. The 2022 chip was legit.

Cope.

[QUOTE=Full Court;15020102]2020 was a joke, and 2023 was a weak year. The 2022 chip was legit.

Cope.[/QUOTE]What’s wrong with 2020? Everyone competed under the same conditions, no? So it was fair competition. If anything the Lakers got screwed out of hca.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15019955]On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.

I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;15020180]What’s wrong with 2020? Everyone competed under the same conditions, no? So it was fair competition. If anything the Lakers got screwed out of hca.[/QUOTE]

The lakers needed the extra off season they got more than other teams. It was basically a new season based on the previous years record with some extra games thrown in. No travelling helped davis and lebron more than guys that are usually healthy

If this were Wiggins coming off the 2022 finals, I'm all in.

Its 2025 though and dude had a pretty rough postseason with Miami. I know a couple of Heat fans who said he was too inconsistent and oddly checked out during games.

LA should look elsewhere imo.

[QUOTE=Tavr;15020201]If this were Wiggins coming off the 2022 finals, I'm all in.

Its 2025 though and dude had a pretty rough postseason with Miami. I know a couple of Heat fans who said he was too inconsistent and oddly checked out during games.

LA should look elsewhere imo.[/QUOTE]

Had a pretty rough career outside gs. La deserves him and ayton :cheers:

Wiggins has been a great and much more mature player since leaving the Wolves. Whatever absence he took from the Warriors was when his dad was dying. :facepalm

Lakers would be lucky to have him but I'd like to see him on an actual contender. Lakers are a joke.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15020087]weak year[/QUOTE]
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