LeBron James has the highest career plus/minus in the playoffs, at +1270.

:confusedshrug:

Hey, hasn't Lebron's plus minus been a big talking point around here lately? Hmm. This one gonna go mute.

Historically weak Eastern Conference


Next.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15025674]Historically weak Eastern Conference


Next.[/QUOTE]
The same one Wade nor Bosh could win a playoff series in for 4 years before joining LeBron.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15025681]The same one Wade nor Bosh could win a playoff series in for 4 years before joining LeBron.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15025681]The same one Wade nor Bosh could win a playoff series in for 4 years before joining LeBron.[/QUOTE]

As you bron stans like to put it

“he needed more help!”

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15025696]As you bron stans like to put it

“he needed more help!”[/QUOTE]
For 2 top of the top 4 players in PER, in a historically weak conference? They should be able to win at least one playoff series combined in a presidential term. Hell, Bosh couldn't even [I]make[/I] the playoffs in some of those years.

Isn't his +/- a huge negative vs all western conference opponents overall? With huge sample size?

I want to see the split because the +/- vs the East must be absolutely tremendous.

[QUOTE=tpols;15025702]Isn't his +/- a huge negative vs all western conference opponents overall? With huge sample size?

I want to see the split because the +/- vs the East must be absolutely tremendous.[/QUOTE]

Well why don't you find the stats for us.

Either way, the last time prime Lebron was in the playoffs was 2020. Even if these post-prime years are dragging things down, he is still the all time leader :lol

I dont have to because I know you dont have the balls to do it. Its definitely a massive disparity which is why you wont state it.

[QUOTE=tpols;15025711]I dont have to because I know you dont have the balls to do it. Its definitely a massive disparity which is why you wont state it.[/QUOTE]

No really, go ahead and do it. None of this is serious buddy, and you brought it up.

Go ahead and enlighten us.

That's old stuff. What was his plus/minus for the last 5 years? Hmmmmmmmmm?

LeNetNegative.

[QUOTE=Full Court;15025722]That's old stuff. What was his plus/minus for the last 5 years? Hmmmmmmmmm?

LeNetNegative.[/QUOTE]

It's for his career, sorry you are upset about it.

Greatest player of all time

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15025698]For 2 top of the top 4 players in PER, in a historically weak conference? They should be able to win at least one playoff series combined in a presidential term. Hell, Bosh couldn't even [I]make[/I] the playoffs in some of those years.[/QUOTE]

4/10 or 12 ,, who knows how many conference champs he would make. they all don’t mean shit homie

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15025725]It's for his career, sorry you are upset about it.[/QUOTE]

He's still been a net negative for five years running.

Sorry you are upset about it.

[QUOTE=Lebron23;15025729]Greatest player of all time[/QUOTE]

This

[QUOTE=Full Court;15025722]That's old stuff. What was his plus/minus for the last 5 years? Hmmmmmmmmm?

LeNetNegative.[/QUOTE]

This.

LeBron James has a plus/minus of +4975 against the Eastern Conference in his career. (886 games)
LeBron James has a plus/minus of +1293 against the Eastern Conference in the playoffs in his career.

LeBron James has a plus/minus of +2414 against the Western Conference in his career. (676 games)
LeBron James has a plus/minus of -23 against the Western Conference in the playoffs in his career.

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15025819]LeBron James has a plus/minus of +4975 against the Eastern Conference in his career. (886 games)
LeBron James has a plus/minus of +1293 against the Eastern Conference in the playoffs in his career.

LeBron James has a plus/minus of +2414 against the Western Conference in his career. (676 games)
LeBron James has a plus/minus of -23 against the Western Conference in the playoffs in his career.[/QUOTE]

Ty for the reference.

/thread

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15025822]Ty for the reference.

/thread[/QUOTE]

It literally doesn't change anything :lol.

LeBron James has the highest career plus/minus in the playoffs, at +1270. This is the thread and the facts. You trying to nitpick it doesn't change the facts.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15025835]It literally doesn't change anything :lol.

LeBron James has the highest career plus/minus in the playoffs, at +1270. This is the thread and the facts. You trying to nitpick it doesn't change the facts.[/QUOTE]


Bro the fact that hes in the negative vs all west opponents with gigantic sample size but way over +1000 vs the East should be a red flag for you.

That basically means he beat up on scrubs but overall lost to top tier opponents.

His K/D ratio was in the negative vs the West but he was Voltron vs the fodder East.

Not a good look for a "GOAT".

[QUOTE=tpols;15025841]Bro the fact that hes in the negative vs all west opponents with gigantic sample size but way over +1000 vs the East should be a red flag for you.

That basically means he beat up on scrubs but overall lost to top tier opponents.

His K/D ratio was in the negative vs the West but he was Voltron vs the fodder East.

Not a good look for a "GOAT".[/QUOTE]
Bro, just come out of the closet and accept that LeBron was better than Kobe, you'll feel a lot better. You'll be able to stop this charade of cherry picking context less numbers, you'll no longer be living in a world of Jason Kidd > LeBron posts. It's the last step of the 5 stages of grief, once you do, you'll finally find peace.

[QUOTE=tpols;15025841]Bro the fact that hes in the negative vs all west opponents with gigantic sample size but way over +1000 vs the East should be a red flag for you.

That basically means he beat up on scrubs but overall lost to top tier opponents.

His K/D ratio was in the negative vs the West but he was Voltron vs the fodder East.

Not a good look for a "GOAT".[/QUOTE]

Most of his Western conference games are against finals opponents or completely after his prime.

He legit had ONE playoff run out west in his prime, which was 2020, and it ended it a Ring/FMVP.

Either way, Lebron is top dog, even factoring in playoff games where the dude is age 36-40.

Again ONLY Lebron gets nitpicked by the haters to an irrational degree. It's Lebron-derangement syndrome.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15025852]Most of his Western conference games are against finals opponents or completely after his prime.

He legit had ONE playoff run out west in his prime, which was 2020, and it ended it a Ring/FMVP.

Either way, Lebron is top dog, even factoring in playoff games where the dude is age 36-40.

Again ONLY Lebron gets nitpicked by the haters to an irrational degree. It's Lebron-derangement syndrome.[/QUOTE]

Hes gotten spanked in the West since hes been there too though brother. Think about it. There's a common denominator going on here.

Couldn't even make the playoffs first year and AD saved him. Thats why as a Christian we have B.C. and A.D. Thats the time scale the world follows even currently.

The results were vastly different.

[QUOTE=tpols;15025859]Hes gotten spanked in the West since hes been there too though brother. Think about it. There's a common denominator going on here.

Couldn't even make the playoffs first year and AD saved him. Thats why as a Christian we have B.C. and A.D. Thats the time scale the world follows even currently.

The results were vastly different.[/QUOTE]

The post you just made here didn't change any of the facts in my post that you responded to.

bron stans have been crashing out extra hard lately

you guys okay? :lol :lol

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15025876]bron stans have been crashing out extra hard lately

you guys okay? :lol :lol[/QUOTE]

If only Lebron can defend in the game as consistently and aggressively as his stans defend for him

[QUOTE=Gudo;15025877]If only Lebron can defend in the game as consistently and aggressively as his stans defend for him[/QUOTE]

LeTrafficCone defend???

:biggums:

[QUOTE=Gudo;15025877]If only Lebron can defend in the game as consistently and aggressively as his stans defend for him[/QUOTE]

I think just some fake steals and blocks would do wouldn't it? I heard it worked once for a guy......

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15026020]I think just some fake steals and blocks would do wouldn't it? I heard it worked once for a guy......[/QUOTE]

Fake assists and rebounds worked for some others. So it goes both ways.

Losing record in the finals. Lost head to head more times against a guy who came in after him who beat him head to head on the highest stage more.

[QUOTE=Gudo;15026021]Fake assists and rebounds worked for some others. So it goes both ways.[/QUOTE]

Id say not, they've actually taken quite a few triple doubles away from LeBron after games were over with stat corrections. The complete opposite of a guy that got freebies way back when.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15025835]It literally doesn't change anything :lol.

LeBron James has the highest career plus/minus in the playoffs, at +1270. This is the thread and the facts. You trying to nitpick it doesn't change the facts.[/QUOTE]


lol he has a negative plus minus against the West. That means what he did in the East don’t matter cuz when it counts on the highest stage he’s a negative. You gonna try to NERD your way out of this one?

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15025851]Bro, just come out of the closet and accept that LeBron was better than Kobe, you'll feel a lot better. You'll be able to stop this charade of cherry picking context less numbers, you'll no longer be living in a world of Jason Kidd > LeBron posts. It's the last step of the 5 stages of grief, once you do, you'll finally find peace.[/QUOTE]


Being a negative plus minus against the West when it counts is not exactly cherry picking numbers. You are NOT serious. This is a bad look for you.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15025873]The post you just made here didn't change any of the facts in my post that you responded to.[/QUOTE]

You’re just cashing out cuz it’s over for Lebron. Anything you can grab onto to help you try to sleep. LeBron is not goat and is not considered it by the majority.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15025852]Most of his Western conference games are against finals opponents or completely after his prime.

He legit had ONE playoff run out west in his prime, which was 2020, and it ended it a Ring/FMVP.

Either way, Lebron is top dog, even factoring in playoff games where the dude is age 36-40.

Again ONLY Lebron gets nitpicked by the haters to an irrational degree. It's Lebron-derangement syndrome.[/QUOTE]


These are not nitpicked stats. Against superior opponents he wasn’t good enough, no nitpicking.

There is no LeBron derangement syndrome. Sorry, he’s just not good enough.

[QUOTE=Walk on Water;15026113]These are not nitpicked stats. Against superior opponents he wasn’t good enough, no nitpicking.

There is no LeBron derangement syndrome. Sorry, he’s just not good enough.[/QUOTE]

The post you just made here didn't change any of the facts in my post that you responded to. LeBron James has the highest career plus/minus in the playoffs, at +1270.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15026120]The post you just made here didn't change any of the facts in my post that you responded to. LeBron James has the highest career plus/minus in the playoffs, at +1270.[/QUOTE]


All you're doing is repeating yourself. He doesn't have the highest plus minus when it matters the most. And the fact he's a negative in the West absolutely shows you how context matters here because part of the reason he has that plus minus is because he played in the East.

So let's say Kevin Durant had the highest plus minus in the WNBA. But then he comes to the NBA and is a negative plus minus. Sure you're right in your first post, you're just not right universally.

[QUOTE=Walk on Water;15026125]All you're doing is repeating yourself. He doesn't have the highest plus minus when it matters the most. And the fact he's a negative in the West absolutely shows you how context matters here because part of the reason he has that plus minus is because he played in the East.

So let's say Kevin Durant had the highest plus minus in the WNBA. But then he comes to the NBA and is a negative plus minus. Sure you're right in your first post, you're just not right universally.[/QUOTE]

The post you just made here didn't change any of the facts in my post that you responded to. LeBron James has the highest career plus/minus in the playoffs, at +1270.