looks like it's time to deport miriam adelson

most, if not all of you, are likely to have no idea who miriam is. miriam adelson is the late sheldon adelson's wife, both whom of which are trump megadonors who yield both american [I]and[/I] israeli citizenship - legally, of course. so far so good, right?

...unless you're a multi-billionaire with deep political connections, in effect wielding enormous influence over us foreign policy as an israeli citizen, promoting an israel-first agenda.

so over the course of three election cycles, the adelsons have given trump over $337 million. that's right - million. one hundred million of which were given in "legalized bribes" or oops LoL, excuse me - "campaign contributions and independent expenditures" during the latest cycle. money given in good faith, i'm sure - no favors would be expected in return, right? and that doesn't include dark money by the way, the $337m is what [I]we[/I] publicly [I]know[/I] of.

so why is this important? how does this work against american interests? when someone like the adelsons, with their dual citizenship and billions upon billions of dollars funnel israeli money to american politicians through these aforementioned legalized bribes, in this case donald trump, in order to further the pro-israel agenda here in our united states of america; [I]your[/I] hard-earned tax dollars are in effect ultimately transferred to a foreign country to do as they please, unchecked, thanks to aipac not being required to register as a foreign entity unlike other foreign lobbies. so whether that money is funneled in order to commit mass murder, ethnically cleanse palestinians, annex the west bank, move the us embassy to jerusalem, fund iron dome weaponry as iran pummels it with hundreds upon hundreds of missiles (this counter-weaponry is very expensive fyi), facilitating weapons such as two thousand pound bombs in order to annihilate two hamas operatives in the middle of a refugee camp killing twenty children in the process or just money leftover to fund israeli's socialist health care system, [I]whatever[/I] the case may be - [I]you're[/I] paying for it. have something to say about it???

*ANTI-SEMITE!!!*

anyway, in president trump's address yesterday at the knesset, he did america-firsters a massive favor in calling out who miriam is actually loyal to and it's [I]not[/I] america. to quote the president:

[QUOTE]who do you love more - the united states or israel? she refused to answer - that means, that [I]might[/I] mean israel, i must say.[/QUOTE]

the correct and most obvious answer is "america", miriam. but thanks for playing.

similar to mexican-americans emoting [I]their[/I] allegiances to mexico that conservatives have called for deporting, well - it's time we do the same now to miriam. agreed? let the hypocrisy begin.

[video=youtube;f8Gzk0XV3G8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Gzk0XV3G8[/video]

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Dual citizens should be banned from government or making any contributions to any candidate.

Straight up. Non negotiable.

Blatant conflict of interest.

Not a plutocracy.

@Baller234

where you at bro? this one should be a gimme layup for you. an easy point to stat pad your credibility around here. you don't really expect people to take you seriously when you can't call out your own side once in a blue moon. are you america first or are you not? you want to hold to account everybody's else's integrity around here but what about you? don't be that 140 lbs dude in the gym trying to tell everybody how they should train.

i'd call you out too chewing but we all know you're nothing but a tribal hack with zero intellectual honestly.

"thanks to aipac not being required to register as a foreign entity unlike other foreign lobbies"

Whoa, I had no idea. I wonder why AIPAC gets to skip the rules.

And no, I have never heard of miriam adelson or that she gave that much money to Donald.

OP is clearly unhappy that the war ended so he's going to do his darndest to keep digging up stuff in order to turn people against the Jews or Israel.

It's real simple diaNazi, there's no such thing as a Pro-Israel agenda. There's no agenda. There's being pro-Israel and then there isn't.

The United States has given billions and billions over the years to Islamic countries who in turn kill American citizens, but nope, not a peep from a Jew-hater like you, nope. Instead, you only find issues when money is donated to Israel.

I don't understand why there is this incessant need to simp for these Islamic shithole countries and these Muslims who do not care about your support. They hate the American way of life. They always have and they always will, and they are laughing at you clowns as you keep crying and soiling yourselves over them and their fake plight.

You'll never stop talking about Israel and the Jews because you've been brainwashed into believing that they're the bad guy. Some of you bitches need to visit a Holocaust museum one of these days. I dare ya. Just to get some perspective and reprogram that infected and polluted brain you currently have.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15037589]@Baller234

where you at bro? this one should be a gimme layup for you. an easy point to stat pad your credibility around here. you don't really expect people to take you seriously when you can't call out your own side once in a blue moon. are you america first or are you not? you want to hold to account everybody's else's integrity around here but what about you? don't be that 140 lbs dude in the gym trying to tell everybody how they should train.

i'd call you out too chewing but we all know you're nothing but a tribal hack with zero intellectual honestly.[/QUOTE]

Holy shit you are unhinged. This thread has existed for a single day and I had no idea who this woman was.

Without even doing any research on her, and only going off what you just posted, it sounds like her biggest sin is... being a donor? Being a dual citizen?

I'm seriously confused why this is even a problem for you. So you're saying that because X donated money to Trump's campaign it's proof positive that X owns Trump and controls everything he does? Can't you say that about every donor throughout time then? What about Elon? He's a dual citizen and he was the single biggest contributor to Trump's campaign. Does he control Trump too? Obviously not because we all saw they had a huge falling out.

You keep repeating "It's not in our interests!"... like we aren't on the verge of brokering a peace deal. Seriously what more do you fukking want? Peace in the middle east isn't good for the U.S.? It doesn't open up a wave of new relationships and new business opportunities?

Sounds like you are going to bitch and moan no matter what.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15037591]OP is clearly unhappy that the war ended so he's going to do his darndest to keep digging up stuff in order to turn people against the Jews or Israel.[/QUOTE]

Diamenz he is right, this is really the crux of the issue.

You guys wanted the war to be over but you wanted it to be over on Hamas's terms. This conflict could have ended ages ago if Hamas had surrendered and released the hostages but I don't think I saw a single post from you ever calling for them to do that. It always seemed like the finger pointing was aimed in one direction. You had so much to say about the poor victims of the bombings, and yes it is unfortunate that they died, but not once did I ever see you wax poetic about the hostages.

And now that the hostages have finally been released and we are on the verge of a ceasefire, you had the balls to say in that other thread "this is a shift in the right direction and it's great for both sides..."

Uh... why weren't you calling for this to happen sooner then?

this is your problem Baller and i don't know how many times i have to say it before you start being honest and acknowledge it. you strawman any individual's take on any subject - [B]especially[/B] the subject of israel and conflate that person's position with all of the radical shit that you see on twitter. then we of course have chewing's incessant anti-semitic charges at the slightest peep of israel criticism. and that criticism isn't on behalf of palestine, it's on behalf of [B]america[/B].

you two can justify your bullshit all day but this topic is [I]very[/I] straightforward. you can set aside your biases, be reasonable and call this out for what it is or you can sit there and destroy your credibility.

should we deport miriam or should we not? she clearly loves israel more than america so why the *uck is she here? let's all band together as americans and tell her to get the *uck out.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15037618]Diamenz he is right, this is really the crux of the issue.

You guys wanted the war to be over but you wanted it to be over on Hamas's terms. This conflict could have ended ages ago if Hamas had surrendered and released the hostages but I don't think I saw a single post from you ever calling for them to do that. It always seemed like the finger pointing was aimed in one direction. You had so much to say about the poor victims of the bombings, and yes it is unfortunate that they died, but not once did I ever see you wax poetic about the hostages.

And now that the hostages have finally been released and we are on the verge of a ceasefire, you had the balls to say in that other thread "this is a shift in the right direction and it's great for both sides..."

Uh... why weren't you calling for this to happen sooner then?[/QUOTE]

"[B]you guys[/B]". sorry, not interested.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15037612]

I'm seriously confused why this is even a problem for you. So you're saying that because X donated money to Trump's campaign it's proof positive that X owns Trump and controls everything he does? Can't you say that about every donor throughout time then? What about Elon? He's a dual citizen and he was the single biggest contributor to Trump's campaign. Does he control Trump too? Obviously not because we all saw they had a huge falling out.



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the answer to this is literally already in the op. thoroughly and completely. don't sit there and play stupid.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15037612]

You keep repeating "It's not in our interests!"... like we aren't on the verge of brokering a peace deal. Seriously what more do you fukking want? Peace in the middle east isn't good for the U.S.? It doesn't open up a wave of new relationships and new business opportunities?

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can you really blame me for being skeptical? what do want me to do - cheer trump for the nobel prize and act like five days of peace is the end to this eighty year conflict? is that what it's all about? crediting trump? ho *ucking hum let's stop with the tribalism. maybe we should sit down, take a breath and look at the big picture.

this is a step in the right direction but if you're not skeptical about the near future and even moreso a year or linger from now, well then i really don't know what drives your thpught process.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15037633]"[B]you guys[/B]". sorry, not interested.[/QUOTE]

So if I scour through past conversations I could find examples of you advocating for Hamas to release the hostages and end the suffering?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15037641]So if I scour through past conversations I could find examples of you advocating for Hamas to release the hostages and end the suffering?[/QUOTE]

well jeez i'm sure i've stated the [I]obvious[/I] at least once. what i'm wondering is why is this even a question. who do you take me for anyway, "hamasaremyheroes" on twitter? we're [I]really[/I] doing this, you and i?

[QUOTE=diamenz;15037642]well jeez i'm sure i've stated the [I]obvious[/I] at least once. what i'm wondering is why is this even a question. who do you take me for anyway, "hamasaremyheroes" on twitter? we're [I]really[/I] doing this, you and i?[/QUOTE]

Because all you did for months was throw the word "genocide" around and point the finger at Israel the entire time. Never once accounting for the fact that the goal was always for Hamas to surrender authority and return the hostages. You were always going on about some evil "ulterior motive" and drawing up these crazy theories. Look at how much damage Israel had to inflict just in order to reach this point, so I'm not sure what else Israel could have possibly done that would made you happy. It's tragic that so many people had to die but blame that on Hamas. And what do you know, all it took was for them to surrender and release the hostages for Israel to pull back.

You look like a fukking idiot now. And the balls it takes for you to chime in now towards the end and say "This is a shift in the right direction..." Oh so I guess it was never about bloodthirst or ethnic cleansing then.

I don't think you secretly love Hamas but it's clear you've come up with a severe case of IDS and it's clouded your judgement.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15037648]Because all you did for months was throw the word "genocide" around and point the finger at Israel the entire time. Never once accounting for the fact that the goal was always for Hamas to surrender authority and return the hostages. You were always going on about some evil "ulterior motive" and drawing up these crazy theories. Look at how much damage Israel had to inflict just in order to reach this point, so I'm not sure what else Israel could have possibly done that would made you happy. It's tragic that so many people had to die but blame that on Hamas. And what do you know, all it took was for them to surrender and release the hostages for Israel to pull back.

You look like a fukking idiot now. And the balls it takes for you to chime in now towards the end and say "This is a shift in the right direction..." Oh so I guess it was never about bloodthirst or ethnic cleansing then.

I don't think you secretly love Hamas but it's clear you've come up with a severe case of IDS and it's clouded your judgement.[/QUOTE]

bet. link me to the post where i weaponized the word "genocide". on the contrary, do me a favor and linkbme to the post[B]s[/B] where i've told people, particularly TheMan & RRR3 to not use that word as it's not constructive in a debate.

if i have time sometime soon, i'll try to find it... if you don't first. but that's not in Baller234's interests, is it.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15037648]Oh so I guess it was never about bloodthirst or ethnic cleansing then.
.[/QUOTE]

no brother i still believe it is and always has been. that's why i'm so skeptical about a lasting peace. do you not believe that israel views the palestinian people as being a constant thorn in their side? what better excuse to ethnically cleanse and kill off a portion of their population than in the midst of a war over a terrorist attack that was possibly and according to some, likely, let happen?

how do you expect me to look at things favorably or optimistically when israeli officials say things like this?

[QUOTE]it does not matter now if they are childre

Aharon Haliva said the toll in Gaza, which he put at more than 50,000 dead, was “necessary” as a “message to future generations” of Palestinians.

“They need a Nakba every now and then to feel the price,”

“human animals”, saying there are “no innocents”

“The fact that there are already 50,000 dead in Gaza is necessary and required for future generations,” he said in the broadcast comments. “For everything that happened on October 7th, [B]for every person on October 7, 50 Palestinians must die.[/B][/QUOTE]

hmm...now that last quote looks awfully accurate to what the current gaza death toll is estimated to be. not saying it's true but one gas to wonder. :rolleyes:

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/17/israeli-general-aharon-haliva-palestinians-7-october-gaza[/url]

[QUOTE=bladefd;15037590]"thanks to aipac not being required to register as a foreign entity unlike other foreign lobbies"

Whoa, I had no idea. I wonder why AIPAC gets to skip the rules.

And no, I have never heard of miriam adelson or that she gave that much money to Donald.[/QUOTE]

How do you not know who she is? Reminds me of your lack of knowledge of basic Kyle Rittenhouse facts, yet commenting on it. Where do you get your news?

[QUOTE=diamenz;15037632]this is your problem Baller and i don't know how many times i have to say it before you start being honest and acknowledge it. you strawman any individual's take on any subject - [B]especially[/B] the subject of israel and conflate that person's position with all of the radical shit that you see on twitter. then we of course have chewing's incessant anti-semitic charges at the slightest peep of israel criticism. and that criticism isn't on behalf of palestine, it's on behalf of [B]america[/B].

you two can justify your bullshit all day but this topic is [I]very[/I] straightforward. you can set aside your biases, be reasonable and call this out for what it is or you can sit there and destroy your credibility.

should we deport miriam or should we not? she clearly loves israel more than america so why the *uck is she here? let's all band together as americans and tell her to get the *uck out.[/QUOTE]

What happened to you?

Donny T playing the long game after all, will bring them all down before he leaves office.



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but yea, thats prob true for most US politicians

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15037675]What happened to you?[/QUOTE]

More like what happened to you, as soon as Israel was looked at critically across the board, you stopped your America first tune :lol

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15037677]More like what happened to you, as soon as Israel was looked at critically across the board, you stopped your America first tune :lol[/QUOTE]

You act as if supporting an ally is a totally new concept. We have been supporting Israel for longer than we've both been alive.

The difference is that antisemitism is on the rise compared to just a few years ago.

Saying "America First" and thinking this gives some of you an excuse to be bigoted ain't the way.

Have you seen Miriam Adelson? Even she wouldn't f#ck Patrick Chewing.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15037657]bet. link me to the post where i weaponized the word "genocide". on the contrary, do me a favor and linkbme to the post[B]s[/B] where i've told people, particularly TheMan & RRR3 to not use that word as it's not constructive in a debate.

if i have time sometime soon, i'll try to find it... if you don't first. but that's not in Baller234's interests, is it.[/QUOTE]

Dude I literally quoted you referring to Israel's military operations as "ethnic cleansing".

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15037677]More like what happened to you, as soon as Israel was looked at critically across the board, you stopped your America first tune :lol[/QUOTE]

Except your reasons for being critical of Israel are totally hypocritical and not based in logic. Not unless you're prepared to say the same things about your own country.

If you think Israel is evil then you must also think America is evil. Especially when you consider our own history and also how much money we ourselves have invested in Israel.

But no, you still claim to be America first somehow. You're like a walking contradiction.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15038186]Dude I literally quoted you referring to Israel's military operations as "ethnic cleansing".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15037648]Because all you did for months was throw the word "[U]genocide[/U]" around and point the finger at Israel the entire time. [/QUOTE]

10char

[QUOTE=diamenz;15038229]10char[/QUOTE]

How's this?

[QUOTE=diamenz;15031133]he got bodied on a personal level.

the subject at hand was never discussed. op never made an argument, so obviously no counterargument was necessary.

[B][SIZE=4]i think the genocide claim needs to be entertained at this point. [/SIZE][/B] of course it shouldn't be straight up written in stone but nor should it be dismissed out of hand. me? i'm not going down that rabbit hole. debating terms aren't important to me. and obviously no one's minds are going to be changed because neither side wants to listen due to the amount of emotion behind this subject. plus terms like this are defined and scaled differently by everyone based on historical events. and then you have 'genocidal intent'.[/QUOTE]

Your post basically boils down to:

"I'm not saying it's a genocide, but it sure does look like a genocide..."


I'm curious, if you don't think it was a genocide, why would entertain that point?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15038244]How's this?



Your post basically boils down to:

"I'm not saying it's a genocide, but it sure does look like a genocide..."


I'm curious, if you don't think it was a genocide, why would entertain that point?[/QUOTE]

read that post in it's entirety and explain to me how you came to the conclusion that i'm making the argument for a genocide. if i were actually doing so, it would be as clear as day. you're reaching. just let it go.

synonyms for the word "entertain":

consider
think about
contemplate
give thought to

what do you have to say about the op topic? miriam clearly loves israel more than she loves america. if her loyalty is to a foreign country, then why is she here?

are you and i ever going to agree on [I]anything[/I]? this should be a slam dunk.

I had known about Miriam Adelson, I listen to political podcasters, she's a Jew who corrupts politicians like Trump and her main allegiance lies with Israel. Even if you're not that political, you should know that AIPAC has been corrupting politicians for decades now. Israel isn't that important to us geopolitically speaking but through hundreds of millions of dollars of bribes given to our elected leaders have convinced Americans that somehow they are essential to us as allies... they're not.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15038262]read that post in it's entirety and explain to me how you came to the conclusion that i'm making the argument for a genocide. if i were actually doing so, it would be as clear as day. you're reaching. just let it go.

synonyms for the word "entertain":

consider
think about
contemplate
give thought to

what do you have to say about the op topic? miriam clearly loves israel more than she loves america. if her loyalty is to a foreign country, then why is she here?

are you and i ever going to agree on [I]anything[/I]? this should be a slam dunk.[/QUOTE]

Dude stop.

If you're saying "Hey this looks like it could be a genocide..."... that is you inferring it's a genocide.

It was never a genocide from the start. The only ones "entertaining" that argument were IDS sufferers.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15038343]Dude stop.

If you're saying "Hey this looks like it could be a genocide..."... that is you inferring it's a genocide.

It was never a genocide from the start. The only ones "entertaining" that argument were IDS sufferers.[/QUOTE]

i'm sorry that you interpret it that way.

i can tell you from one man's word to another, that is not the case.

i don't believe what transpired from oct 7th until the present day can be credibly classified as a genocide. whether or not there was genocidal [I]intent[/I] is a different argument altogether. [I]i'm not making that argument[/I] but i'm a believer that all thing should be considered that one can deem reasonable as opposed to simply being dismissed out of hand. are you incapable of entertaining a thought without having to agree with it? do you allow your biases to get in the way of that happening?

[QUOTE]The only ones "entertaining" that argument were IDS sufferers.[/QUOTE]

this is not true at all. virtually every human rights organization in the world, including amnesty international human rights watch which is an israeli organization, as well ad numerous people who are experts on genocide, so forth and so on, have indeed [I]labeled this as a genocide[/I].

so what are you saying, that these people and organizations are all anti-semites? that they're all working in concert trying to actively [I]smear[/I] israel??? that there's some giant conspiracy among all of these human rights groups and international institutions??? :oldlol: these are people who study these issues for a [I]profession[/I] and they've all concluded that this is indeed a genocide. so maybe you outta read their reports/thesis and take it up with them but *uck it why bother as i'm absolutely positive that any of their arguments wouldn't sway your opinion on the matter regardless. that's fine btw. but again, are you able to entertain a thought without agreeing with it?

or maybe you're right. it's a perfect storm of IDS so called "scholars" all working in tandem to destroy israel's image and credibility. they just simply hate jews.

...oh and they're actually the [I]league of shadows[/I]. :rolleyes:

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[QUOTE=diamenz;15038262]
what do you have to say about the op topic? miriam clearly loves israel more than she loves america. if her loyalty is to a foreign country, then why is she here?

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@Baller234