Did Shohei Ohtani just have the greatest individual game in sports history?

3 HRs
10 strikeouts
3 hits allowed
0 runs allowed

[video=youtube;2BTtGWQfIgA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BTtGWQfIgA[/video]

Idk off the top of my head, probably.

He’s like the movie The Natural, but it’s real life.

Definitely 1st ballot HoFer at this point.

Not sure how far he can both pitch and bat, but we will enjoy these unique feats in the next few years to come.

[QUOTE=BurningHammer;15038004]Definitely 1st ballot HoFer at this point.[/QUOTE]

Way to go out on the limb. :oldlol:

Forget 1st ballot HOFer, this might be the best player since Babe Ruth.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038014]Way to go out on the limb. :oldlol:

Forget 1st ballot HOFer, this might be the best player since Babe Ruth.[/QUOTE]

I mean, Shohei could break his back and ended his career tomorrow. He could still get in the HoF anyway if that somehow even happened. :oldlol:

But that is extremely unlikely and he may be considered the unanimous GOAT in baseball ala Tom Brady in American football very soon.

[QUOTE=BurningHammer;15038021]I mean, Shohei could break his back and ended his career tomorrow. He could still get in the HoF anyway if that somehow even happened. :oldlol:

But that is extremely unlikely and he may be considered the unanimous GOAT in baseball ala Tom Brady in American football very soon.[/QUOTE]

Barry bonds was better

It’s pretty obvious that it is. This would be like Mahomes throwing for 5 TD’s and recording a pick and 2 sacks.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038043]Barry bonds was better[/QUOTE]

Roids

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038050]Roids[/QUOTE]

First ballot hall of famer before alleged roid usage. Goat

I see the comments fawning over Ohtani, people saying theyve never seen anything like him and how amazing it is to be able to watch him play live...


naturally, defensive and insecure as he is, Gobb is in here unprovoked saying a black is better than the white asian.

So, I dont know shit about baseball, how common is it for a player to throw and bat? Or be the best at both, which he seems to be?

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038057]First ballot hall of famer before alleged roid usage. Goat[/QUOTE]

Sure, but he still had his best hitting seasons while he was juiced up.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15038063]So, I dont know shit about baseball, how common is it for a player to throw and bat? Or be the best at both, which he seems to be?[/QUOTE]

Very rare. As far as hitting and pitching at that level, it hasn't been seen since Babe Ruth.

Ohtani also stole 59 bases last season, first player ever with 50 home runs and 50 stolen bases in a season.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038064]Sure, but he still had his best hitting seasons while he was juiced up.[/QUOTE]

Barry the only player in mlb history with 400hr 400sb before “roids”. Tell me more

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15038062]I see the comments fawning over Ohtani, people saying theyve never seen anything like him and how amazing it is to be able to watch him play live...


naturally, defensive and insecure as he is, Gobb is in here unprovoked saying a black is better than the white asian.[/QUOTE]

Race baiting is your skill. If I would have said someone like Ted Williams tell me the response? Wait I’ll do it for you…”Gobb hates Asians it’s been proven on ISH already. No shocked this response”.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038070]Barry the only player in mlb history with 400hr 400sb before “roids”. Tell me more[/QUOTE]

Bonds never had a season where he stole 59 bases.

Bonds never even pitched before while Ohtani finished top 4 in Cy Young voting.

Bonds isn't even the best Giants player ever. Mays was better.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038068]Very rare. As far as hitting and pitching at that level, it hasn't been seen since Babe Ruth.

Ohtani also stole 59 bases last season, first player ever with 50 home runs and 50 stolen bases in a season.[/QUOTE]

And players have to do both or can they sub someone else in for the other task?

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15038075]And players have to do both or can they sub someone else in for the other task?[/QUOTE]

Pitchers are usually terrible hitters. Most pitchers don't even bat, when they are pitching for the day they are usually subbed out for another hitter.

If you pitched for the National League, your pitcher was forced to hit during the game, but they changed that rule a couple of years ago so they no longer have to bat.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038077]Pitchers are usually terrible hitters. Most pitchers don't even bat, when they are pitching for the day they are usually subbed out for another hitter.

If you pitched for the National League, your pitcher was forced to hit during the game, but they changed that rule a couple of years ago so they no longer have to bat.[/QUOTE]


Interesting, thanks

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038073]Bonds never had a season where he stole 59 bases.

Bonds never even pitched before while Ohtani finished top 4 in Cy Young voting.

Bonds isn't even the best Giants player ever. Mays was better.[/QUOTE]

No. Mays best giant ever. Bonds best player ever.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038085]No. Mays best giant ever. Bonds best player ever.[/QUOTE]

Relative to their era Babe Ruth will never be topped. He was hitting more home runs than some teams and also had a season where he was the best pitcher in the American League.

Not even MJ was that dominant. Ruth was by far the best athlete of the 20th century.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15038063]So, I dont know shit about baseball, how common is it for a player to throw and bat? Or be the best at both, which he seems to be?[/QUOTE]

Never has happened like this before.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038093]Relative to their era Babe Ruth will never be topped. He was hitting more home runs than some teams and also had a season where he was the best pitcher in the American League.

Not even MJ was that dominant. Ruth was by far the best athlete of the 20th century.[/QUOTE]

Didn’t see babe Ruth play. Didn’t see Wilt play. Barry goat. MJ goat. :confusedshrug:

[U]1920[/U]
Ruth - 54 home runs
#2 guy - 19 home runs

Ruth did that with beer.

Bonds needed steroids to surpass him in home runs and did it in an era where home runs came by easier.

Ruth was so far ahead of his time it's ridiculous. The only facet of the game where you could give Ruth a negative is his fielding. He wasn't bad, but clearly not on the level of Mays or Bonds in their primes. Mays is probably the best player ever if we are only taking hitting/fielding into account.

The only problem is Ruth is by far the best hitter ever and at one point was one of the best pitchers in the league. Still holds the record for most innings pitched in a world series game with 14 innings, a game where he only gave up 1 run.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038050]Roids[/QUOTE]

Was literally the best player in baseball before roids lol.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038103][U]1920[/U]
Ruth - 54 home runs
#2 guy - 19 home runs

Ruth did that with beer.

Bonds needed steroids to surpass him in home runs and did it in an era where home runs came by easier.

Ruth was so far ahead of his time it's ridiculous. The only facet of the game where you could give Ruth a negative is his fielding. He wasn't bad, but clearly not on the level of Mays or Bonds in their primes. Mays is probably the best player ever if we are only taking hitting/fielding into account.

The only problem is Ruth is by far the best hitter ever and at one point was one of the best pitchers in the league. Still holds the record for most innings pitched in a world series game with 14 innings, a game where he only gave up 1 run.[/QUOTE]

What happened to your “we done with the 90’s” because they were all bums arguments lol

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038104]Was literally the best player in baseball before roids lol.[/QUOTE]

Prime Bonds was only averaging 36 home runs a year before he took steroids. Then later on had a 5 year stretch in his mid-late 30's where he averaged 50 home runs with steroids.

Wouldn't even be in the convo with Ruth or Mays if he played clean.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038105]What happened to your “we done with the 90’s” because they were all bums arguments lol[/QUOTE]

We are done with the 90's because Bonds was apart of it.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038108]Prime Bonds was only averaging 36 home runs a year before he took steroids. Then later on had a 5 year stretch in his mid-late 30's where he averaged 50 home runs with steroids.

Wouldn't even be in the convo with Ruth or Mays if he played clean.[/QUOTE]

You never played baseball and don’t understand the game

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038109]We are done with the 90's because Bonds was apart of it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you discredit MJ and wilt for supposedly playing with firemen and plumbers or whatever but then you use the dominance over their peers argument to say Ruth is the goat.

You have no intellectual consistency and it’s pretty clownish. You don’t have consistent trains of thought you basically just pick a person who you like randomly and backtrack doing logical gymnastics to justify it.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038103][U]1920[/U]
Ruth - 54 home runs
#2 guy - 19 home runs

Ruth did that with beer.

Bonds needed steroids to surpass him in home runs and did it in an era where home runs came by easier.

Ruth was so far ahead of his time it's ridiculous. The only facet of the game where you could give Ruth a negative is his fielding. He wasn't bad, but clearly not on the level of Mays or Bonds in their primes. Mays is probably the best player ever if we are only taking hitting/fielding into account.

The only problem is Ruth is by far the best hitter ever and at one point was one of the best pitchers in the league. Still holds the record for most innings pitched in a world series game with 14 innings, a game where he only gave up 1 run.[/QUOTE]

Babe Ruth didn’t play against people of color because they were not allowed in MLB during his “dominance”. If you’re going to use roids in Barry case why wouldn’t someone be able to run off a lot of great players that weren’t allowed in MLB when Ruth played? Do you not acknowledge them? Or were whites so far superior than folks of color that the fact there was a color barrier it didn’t matter. And people of color only became good at baseball later in life far past when Babe Ruth was still alive?


Babe is definately in a goat convo. Willie Mays too. I’m going with what I actually saw, experienced. Hard for me to say Babe was better because the research report shows his stats. As great as they may be I just didn’t see it. Most people’s goats are usually athletes people saw. It’s rarely someone is the goat or best at____ where a fan simply never saw them play.

Ohtani is amazing. And I haven’t even followed his career to fully grasp how amazing he is that baseball fans have. What I saw I don’t think I’ve ever been in awe of a baseball performance since Tatis grand salamis. Not that it’s relevant to his baseball career but how is his English? I was just thinking from a marketing standpoint if his English was solid how much he could be in everyone’s faces. But also he may not have the personality for it regardless. Someone mentioned he isn’t the flashy, braggadocious type. You don’t want to market someone that’s reserved. They need some type of flair.

Another moment which I liked was the padres fan taunting him as his seat was near the on deck circle (how much are those seats??). Then Ohtani smacks a HR and gives the guy a high 5. lol

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038043]Barry bonds was better[/QUOTE]

Dumb

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038113]You never played baseball and don’t understand the game[/QUOTE]

You say I have no intellectual consistency, yet this was your post to refute one of my points. Lmao.

Elementary level intellect.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038116]Babe Ruth didn’t play against people of color because they were not allowed in MLB during his “dominance”. If you’re going to use roids in Barry case why wouldn’t someone be able to run off a lot of great players that weren’t allowed in MLB when Ruth played? Do you not acknowledge them? Or were whites so far superior than folks of color that the fact there was a color barrier it didn’t matter. And people of color only became good at baseball later in life far past when Babe Ruth was still alive?


Babe is definately in a goat convo. Willie Mays too. I’m going with what I actually saw, experienced. Hard for me to say Babe was better because the research report shows his stats. As great as they may be I just didn’t see it. Most people’s goats are usually athletes people saw. It’s rarely someone is the goat or best at____ where a fan simply never saw them play.[/QUOTE]

That’s fair. You could use the race thing against Ruth. Only difference is Ruth had nothing to do with that and didn’t cheat the game, unlike Bonds. There is a reason why he isn’t in the hall of fame.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038114]Yeah you discredit MJ and wilt for supposedly playing with firemen and plumbers or whatever[/QUOTE]

I have Bill Russell in my top 4 ever. I shit more on Wilt for all his chokes.

And the only time I really shit on MJ is when the LeBron haters like yourself go full troll mode.

[video=youtube;NMfBdEV03j8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMfBdEV03j8[/video]

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038123]You say I have no intellectual consistency, yet this was your post to refute one of my points. Lmao.

Elementary level intellect.[/QUOTE]

I’m not gonna waste my time with someone who doesn’t grasp basic baseball shit and has zero consistency with his arguments. Go watch YouTube’s and parrot their bullshit like you always do.

You are a repeater. You are unable to formulate logical thoughts or your own.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038133]I’m not gonna waste my time with someone who doesn’t grasp basic baseball shit and has zero consistency with his arguments. Go watch YouTube’s and parrot their bullshit like you always do.

You are a repeater. You are unable to formulate logical thoughts or your own.[/QUOTE]

Your best argument is "You don't understand baseball"

lmaoooo

Bonds' legacy will forever be stained because of steroids. Everywhere he goes, people quietly say "steroids". I know this because I bumped into him once in SF and the moment he left, people called him a cheater. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038140]Your best argument is "You don't understand baseball"

lmaoooo

Bonds' legacy will forever be stained because of steroids. Everywhere he goes, people quietly say "steroids". I know this because I bumped into him once in SF and the moment he left, people called him a cheater. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

….

What? lol

You don’t know baseball. Or anything about San Francisco.