Fairly simple question for the folks on the left, why do you want illegal immigration and why do you want people jumping the border to stay permanently?
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Fairly simple question for the folks on the left, why do you want illegal immigration and why do you want people jumping the border to stay permanently?
I'm hoping one of them can confirm the identity of "Bubba."
I don’t want them illegal. I want an open boarder where once you’re here you get the same rights as everyone else. For a variety of reasons…
1. Just like with drugs, guns, gambling, etc., it’s feeble and a complete waste of money to try and control human migration. Totally pointless while leading to illegal underground markets and big government bureaucracy.
2. The government should not be allowed to tell a business owner who they can hire. If the market for labor is not free then there is no “free market” at all. Duh.
3. This one is nationalistic. We need these people on our side when WW3 kicks off. We don’t want them on Chinas side which is where you’ll push them if you don’t accept them. We should take pride that the American dream is still alive and people want to come here.
let me counter your question with a more important one, why did trump blow bubba?
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15042999]Fairly simple question for the folks on the left, why do you want illegal immigration and why do you want people jumping the border to stay permanently?[/QUOTE]
They will never answer this question truthfully. In most cases, it just boils down to being on the opposing side of Republicans at the expense of our country and watching it burn to the ground.
Mega rich Republicans can't have legal slaves yet.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15043008]They will never answer this question truthfully. In most cases, it just boils down to being on the opposing side of Republicans at the expense of our country and watching it burn to the ground.[/QUOTE]
Y’all are the real leftists on this issue.
You think the government has the competence to stop something as fundamental to human existence as migration. Lmao. You might as well be a hippie who thinks the government can bring the world peace. That’s how stupid y’all sound.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15043008]They will never answer this question truthfully. In most cases, it just boils down to being on the opposing side of Republicans at the expense of our country and watching it burn to the ground.[/QUOTE]
Poopsie will never answer this question truthfully.
Of all the guys Trump could have blown, why did he choose Bubba?
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15042999]Fairly simple question for the folks on the left, why do you want illegal immigration and why do you want people jumping the border to stay permanently?[/QUOTE]
I have two important questions too. Where are the Epstein files? Why do Republicans want to raise healthcare costs by 100%?
Board Dems are so adamant about letting undocumented illegal aliens into my country and let them stay here on the tax payers dime but for some reason they can't answer why they so badly want them here.
It's pretty pathetic by these stupid asses. If ya want to be surrounded by foreigners, then GFTO of the U.S.
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15043181]Board Dems are so adamant about letting undocumented illegal aliens into my country and let them stay here on the tax payers dime but for some reason they can't answer why they so badly want them here.
It's pretty pathetic by these stupid asses. If ya want to be surrounded by foreigners, then GFTO of the U.S.[/QUOTE]
It's puzzling, so many threads where they scream about not deporting illegals and how the admin is so wrong for doing it, yet they won't even give a few reasons why they want them to stay.
I bet so many of the people wanting illegals to stay is either for personal or ideological reasons. Maybe it's a family member or they know someone in their community. Maybe highwhey employs illegals or maybe he just feel the same as OTC, who's openly let it be know he wants everyone to have brown skin color.
[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;15043001]I don’t want them illegal. I want an open boarder where once you’re here you get the same rights as everyone else. For a variety of reasons…
1. Just like with drugs, guns, gambling, etc., it’s feeble and a complete waste of money to try and control human migration. Totally pointless while leading to illegal underground markets and big government bureaucracy.
2. The government should not be allowed to tell a business owner who they can hire. If the market for labor is not free then there is no “free market” at all. Duh.
3. This one is nationalistic. We need these people on our side when WW3 kicks off. We don’t want them on Chinas side which is where you’ll push them if you don’t accept them. We should take pride that the American dream is still alive and people want to come here.[/QUOTE]
I think your opinions are way out there, but I do appreciate the honesty.
I don't "want" illegal immigrants, I would want them to come in legally, be vetted, pay taxes etc. However, once they're here, if they prove to be productive members of society, do the hard manual labor jobs Americans don't want to do, and don't commit crime, I honestly don't care if they stay.
Like the drug war you're never going to stop people from coming into the country illegally. The best you can do is secure the border and crack down on those who are criminals. I feel like going city to city rounding up and deporting people like that doesn't have any real discernable benefit to the country, esp when you consider the substantial resources that are being poured into ICE.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15043339]I don't "want" illegal immigrants, I would want them to come in legally, be vetted, pay taxes etc. However, once they're here, if they prove to be productive members of society, do the hard manual labor jobs Americans don't want to do, and don't commit crime, I honestly don't care if they stay.
Like the drug war you're never going to stop people from coming into the country illegally. The best you can do is secure the border and crack down on those who are criminals. I feel like going city to city rounding up and deporting people like that doesn't have any real discernable benefit to the country, esp when you consider the substantial resources that are being poured into ICE.[/QUOTE]
this 100%.
i think even liberals would be ok with this. it's the gestapo tactics that violate a lot of laws that make people upset.
[QUOTE=highwhey;15043341]this 100%.
i think even liberals would be ok with this. it's the gestapo tactics that violate a lot of laws that make people upset.[/QUOTE]
Can you link the video exampleS of gestapo tactics?
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15043339]I don't "want" illegal immigrants, I would want them to come in legally, be vetted, pay taxes etc. However, once they're here, if they prove to be productive members of society, do the hard manual labor jobs Americans don't want to do, and don't commit crime, I honestly don't care if they stay.
Like the drug war you're never going to stop people from coming into the country illegally. The best you can do is secure the border and crack down on those who are criminals. I feel like going city to city rounding up and deporting people like that doesn't have any real discernable benefit to the country, esp when you consider the substantial resources that are being poured into ICE.[/QUOTE]
Is them coming in legally just a technicality to you, like Biden admin changing the law to make economic asylum a thing for Venezuelans when no such thing existed in the past?
Problem is that if illegals take a lower wage, pay taxes and bunk up 5 people in one apartment, they're technically productive members of society, but they're lowering wages while driving up the price of housing, working as a negative against Americans lower on the income scale. I do agree though that if you can document immigrants are needed for certain work, like hard manual labor, then you could give a group who does that work citizenship.
[QUOTE=highwhey;15043341]this 100%.
i think even liberals would be ok with this. it's the gestapo tactics that violate a lot of laws that make people upset.[/QUOTE]
Every illegal immigrant in the country has a standing offer to take $1000 and go home, but instead they chose to stay and violate laws that make a lot of people upset.
[QUOTE=highwhey;15043341]this 100%.
i think even liberals would be ok with this. it's the gestapo tactics that violate a lot of laws that make people upset.[/QUOTE]
You’re fat.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15043339]I don't "want" illegal immigrants, I would want them to come in legally, be vetted, pay taxes etc. However, once they're here, if they prove to be productive members of society, do the hard manual labor jobs Americans don't want to do, and don't commit crime, I honestly don't care if they stay.
Like the drug war you're never going to stop people from coming into the country illegally. The best you can do is secure the border and crack down on those who are criminals. I feel like going city to city rounding up and deporting people like that doesn't have any real discernable benefit to the country, esp when you consider the substantial resources that are being poured into ICE.[/QUOTE]
Not just ICE with $150 billion but other agencies like FBI have hundreds of millions allotted by Donny and Heritage foundation just for immigration control, which is insane. Donny also has the military getting involved when immigration control isn't their job.
[QUOTE=bladefd;15043390]Not just ICE with $150 billion but other agencies like FBI have hundreds of millions allotted by Donny and Heritage foundation just for immigration control, which is insane. Donny also has the military getting involved when immigration control isn't their job.[/QUOTE]
If it were up to you there'd be no immigration control or closed borders .... just keep letting millions of undocumented aliens into my country. If you want to be surrounded by non-Americans then GTFO of the U.S
[QUOTE=highwhey;15043341]this 100%.
i think even liberals would be ok with this. it's the gestapo tactics that violate a lot of laws that make people upset.[/QUOTE]
No videos, Big Belly?
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15043358]You’re fat.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15043334]It's puzzling, so many threads where they scream about not deporting illegals and how the admin is so wrong for doing it, yet they won't even give a few reasons why they want them to stay.[/QUOTE]
The left doesn't operate on morals, beliefs or principle.
They don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other when it comes to illegal immigration. They just know that Donald Trump was the one who raised the initial concern and that it was a bone of contention in the eyes of his supporters.
That's all the information they need. Trump and his supporters think it's bad so they feel obligated to defend it. Above all they can never ever admit that Trump and the GOP raise a valid concern. Takes away from the whole evil mustache twirling villain label they project onto us.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15043409][B]If it were up to you there'd be no immigration control or closed borders .... just keep letting millions of undocumented aliens into my country[/B]. If you want to be surrounded by non-Americans then GTFO of the U.S[/QUOTE]
You couldn't be further from the truth. Is your paranoia/strawman argument indicative of how partisan you are, or is Fauxnews telling you to think that? Your head is so far into the ground that if anyone disagrees with $150 billion dollar budget on top of hundreds of millions to agencies NOT responsible for immigration control being pushed into immigration control is insane gets you that riled up, what does it say about you?
You sound like a bootlicker and "yes" man. There have been many of those in dictatorial nations, including America during the 18th century while the Revolutionary War was ongoing. These were seen as un-American. Are you un-American?
[QUOTE=Baller234;15043551]The left doesn't operate on morals, beliefs or principle.
[/QUOTE]
What kind of government that cuts funds on disaster reliefs, education, food securities, etc. operates on? :oldlol:
I don't
[QUOTE=bladefd;15043390]Not just ICE with $150 billion but other agencies like FBI have hundreds of millions allotted by Donny and Heritage foundation just for immigration control, which is insane. Donny also has the military getting involved when immigration control isn't their job.[/QUOTE]
Remember when Texas put up a barb wire fence to try and keep illegals out and the Biden admin sent an excavator to open it up again? Now [I]that's[/I] insane.
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15043816]Remember when Texas put up a barb wire fence to try and keep illegals out and the Biden admin sent an excavator to open it up again? Now [I]that's[/I] insane.
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Biden administration sued Texas because they were taking too many measures to keep the illegals out of the country.
The fukking President suing in order to keep the steady flow of illegals coming into our country. That's completely messed up, but Blade and others are all for it cause they're all about America last.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15043549]:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Don't worry Poopsie. We haven't forgotten you weigh 400 lbs.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15043817]Biden administration sued Texas because they were taking too many measures to keep the illegals out of the country.
The fukking President suing in order to keep the steady flow of illegals coming into our country. That's completely messed up, but Blade and others are all for it cause they're all about America last.[/QUOTE]
DNC uses immigration to import voters.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15043821]DNC uses immigration to import voters.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, but again Blade and others refuse to believe that illegals aren't voting but are in favor of no I.D needed to vote. Dumbassss in denial who can't answer honestly why they're all for their fellow illegals coming in and live free on our tax dollars.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15043817]Biden administration sued Texas because they were taking too many measures to keep the illegals out of the country.
The fukking President suing in order to keep the steady flow of illegals coming into our country. That's completely messed up, but Blade and others are all for it cause they're all about America last.[/QUOTE]
Yeah bladed and co did the dem version of the narcissist prayer over 4 years on that. Clown world.
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not our fault.
And if it was, you deserved it.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15043822]Absolutely, but again Blade and others refuse to believe that illegals aren't voting but are in favor of no I.D needed to vote. Dumbassss in denial who can't answer honestly why they're all for their fellow illegals coming in and live free on our tax dollars.[/QUOTE]
Yeah if you push for mass immigration, legal and illegal, then try to remove voter ID and other things in that nature….
Lmao it’s insanely obvious what they are trying to pull.
Ask any Democrat to explain this and their brain will explode while they dance around the subject :lol
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15043822]Absolutely, but again Blade and others refuse to believe that illegals aren't voting but are in favor of no I.D needed to vote. Dumbassss in denial who can't answer honestly why they're all for their fellow illegals coming in and live free on our tax dollars.[/QUOTE]
Get me evidence of illegals voting in significant numbers. I believe in requiring ID to register to vote. Most states currently already require ID to register.
What else is FauxNews telling you? Let's rip that to shreds with more facts.
[QUOTE=bladefd;15043833]Get me evidence of illegals voting in significant numbers. I believe in requiring ID to register to vote. Most states currently already require ID to register.
What else is FauxNews telling you? Let's rip that to shreds with more facts.[/QUOTE]
They've had this argument before several times. They enjoy engaging in it, losing, and then acting like they never knew that you have to be a citizen to register so that they can have the same stupid argument again next week. They may possibly vote a tweet or some random case in a place like Minnesota where something happened that they didn't properly understand.
[QUOTE=bladefd;15043833]Get me evidence of illegals voting in significant numbers. I believe in requiring ID to register to vote. Most states currently already require ID to register.
What else is FauxNews telling you? Let's rip that to shreds with more facts.[/QUOTE]
Instead of giving your spiel again about how you're so sure they don't vote, maybe just tell us why you want illegal aliens in the US?
Why should we share in your racist obsession when only 12% of the deported are violent criminals? You aren't combating dangers to society you're grabbing mothers and raiding the parking lot at Home Depot.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15043878]Instead of giving your spiel again about how you're so sure they don't vote, maybe just tell us why you want illegal aliens in the US?[/QUOTE]
Want? No. I support deporting those with a criminal record and making it harder for others to get in. Why are they sending illegals to detention camps and then Venezuelan prisons, while often placing them in straitjackets on the way? There are humane ways to deport. I also don't want ICE getting $150 BILLION dollar budget and the FBI hundreds of millions just for immigration control. Or Trump bringing in the military, whose job is not immigration control—it never was.
And why are they making legal immigration so difficult for things like H1 visa?
[QUOTE=bladefd;15043931]Want? No. I support deporting those with a criminal record and making it harder for others to get in. Why are they sending illegals to detention camps and then Venezuelan prisons, while often placing them in straitjackets on the way? There are humane ways to deport. I also don't want ICE getting $150 BILLION dollar budget and the FBI hundreds of millions just for immigration control. Or Trump bringing in the military, whose job is not immigration control—it never was.
And why are they making legal immigration so difficult for things like H1 visa?[/QUOTE]
If you only want to deport illegal aliens with a criminal record and make it harder for new immigrants to get in, it means you want all the rest to stay - how come?
They are sending illegals to detention camps for processing so they don't just disappear into the US again after having been caught. If you want to deport someone, there's no point in letting them go again after having been caught. If they go to Venezuelan prisons after being deported back there, I'm assuming it's because they did something criminal in the US or Venezuela before they came to the US, and the Venezuelan government doesn't want them roaming the streets there until they've served their sentence.
All illegal aliens know they're supposed to go home and there's a standing offer for them to take $1000 to do so, voluntary deportation is the most human way possible. But most don't go on their own, instead banking on libs protecting them the next until next elections, so you make it public that if you are caught, it's not a nice process. Sucks it has to be that way, but even though much more have left on their own than getting deported, they're not leaving on their own in large enough numbers to fix the problem.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15043896]Why should we share in your racist obsession when only 12% of the deported are violent criminals? You aren't combating dangers to society you're grabbing mothers and raiding the parking lot at Home Depot.[/QUOTE]
Illegal aliens are more likely to do jobs for lower wages, live multiple people together to save money, and send a decent chunk of their earnings to their family in another country. All of which are bad for blue collar Americans.
So is taking away SNAP benefits. You don't give a damn about poor people. We are spending tens of billions of dollars so that uneducated people can have minimum wage jobs picking fruit? Please find a better excuse for being an evil bigot.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15043334]It's puzzling, so many threads where they scream about not deporting illegals and how the admin is so wrong for doing it, yet they won't even give a few reasons why they want them to stay.
I bet so many of the people wanting illegals to stay is either for personal or ideological reasons. Maybe it's a family member or they know someone in their community. Maybe highwhey employs illegals or maybe he just feel the same as OTC, who's openly let it be know he wants everyone to have brown skin color.
I think your opinions are way out there, but I do appreciate the honesty.[/QUOTE]
Yeah my opinion is “out there” while yours is the same old tired republican hack shit we’ve been hearing for years.
Lmao.