Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior

MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, yet no one talks about these stats that offset his all-time points lead

It's bs.. Given the enormous help that lebron's ball-dominant, spot-up role-imposing skillset needs (can't win with normal roster of 1 franchise player), and given his many horrible losses despite all-star teammates and preseason favorites, he isn't a top 10 all-time player - the opinion of a few dozen journalism majors (media awards) mean exactly nothing in a top 10 debate... The only thing that matters is your win frequency and how much help you needed - these things are in turn based on the level of chemistry and teammate elevation/great fits that your skillset produces.. Unfortunately, Lebron's skillset has a long list of bad fits and teammate craterings, hence his horrific win rate and need for more help

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Nothing personal 3ball, just trying to liven things up around this deada$$ place.

LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.

op, you're the only one still talking about bron.

[QUOTE=BarberSchool;15044093][video=youtube_share;n3lbOMqTEkY]https://youtu.be/n3lbOMqTEkY?si=IDLn6wVjii-KkARL[/video]

Nothing personal 3ball, just trying to liven things up around this deada$$ place.[/QUOTE]


It would've been better if you could've just explained why people say Lebron has all the stats when he doesn't have anything - he's nowhere near #1 in PPG, RPG, APG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, efficiency and many more... All he has is bs longevity points, which is offset by the most TO's ever, and most missed shots ever

So he's 100% fraud - bet your money on him to lose and you'll get rich

Move on OP. You're obsessed

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15044097]LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.[/QUOTE]


Stats is only 1 half of it for 1st options (who dictate brand of ball, chemistry and the level of team offense)

So Kobe leads the other half of things (winning, scoring versatility/fits, chemistry, teammate elevation, brand of ball, winning more with less, toughness, leadership, setting an example, clutch efficiency, fearlessness (which permeates the team, so teammates are more clutch), loyalty, and much more - basically everything except stats...

Bruh, why is everyone all of a sudden doing Mr. Pink memes around here the moment avatars are disabled? He was my avatar.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15044105]Bruh, why is everyone all of a sudden doing Mr. Pink memes around here the moment avatars are disabled? He was my avatar.[/QUOTE]
Who else posted Mr. Pink sh!t ? I like em already.

[QUOTE=3ba11;15044100]It would've been better if you could've just explained why people say Lebron has all the stats when he doesn't have anything - he's nowhere near #1 in PPG, RPG, APG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, efficiency and many more... All he has is bs longevity points, which is offset by the most TO's ever, and most missed shots ever

So he's 100% fraud - bet your money on him to lose and you'll get rich[/QUOTE]would have been much better, very true. But I’m too stoned to do all that.

[QUOTE=BarberSchool;15044108]would have been much better, very true. But I’m too stoned to do all that.[/QUOTE]


That's fair

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I've mathematically solved Lebron's game:

It's statistical fact that Lebron's skillset increases everyone's assisted buckets/spot-up role, which craters their assists and causes low assist teams over time - this is all statistical fact... [I]We can confirm that this is a flaw because[/I] every series loss of Lebron's playoff career shows deficits in team assists... Since Lebron's assist-lowering effect is the catalyst in every loss, the team must literally overcome this affliction to win (have more assists than the other team) - the TEAM must overcome Lebron's weakness to win.

Taking this a step further, if team assists is a proxy for teamwork, then Lebron essentially needs better teamwork than the opponent to win a playoff series - aka he can't carry the load and win with less teamwork - he needs his team.. Otoh, MJ carried the load and won with less teamwork/team assists all the time, while also winning with less scoring help (carrying the scoring load, aka defeating max defensive attention).

Carry on

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15044097]LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.[/QUOTE]

You got me. :confused: Lebron should be ranked higher than #15 of all time Kobe.

Because Magic and Jordan were steroid cheats...

What are you even arguing here? That Lebron doesnt have a statistically impressive career? If so thats one of the more stupid stances in a long line of stupid stances from you, its pretty high up your personal all time list. They say he has "all the stats" because he does. Hes high up the record books on almost any conceivable stat. Hes literally the only guy ever to post 40k 10k 10k for a career, with no other player even coming close. His career averages? They are elite still after 23 seasons. Most guy's last few seasons cannibalize their career averages to below what they truly were as players. Lebron? Not so much. Theres not a single angle you can take that he doesnt look good statistically, unless i guess you want to gripe that he isnt a great free throw shooter.....big whoop.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15044211]What are you even arguing here? That Lebron doesnt have a statistically impressive career? If so thats one of the more stupid stances in a long line of stupid stances from you, its pretty high up your personal all time list. They say he has "all the stats" because he does. Hes high up the record books on almost any conceivable stat. Hes literally the only guy ever to post 40k 10k 10k for a career, with no other player even coming close. His career averages? They are elite still after 23 seasons. Most guy's last few seasons cannibalize their career averages to below what they truly were as players. Lebron? Not so much. Theres not a single angle you can take that he doesnt look good statistically, unless i guess you want to gripe that he isnt a great free throw shooter.....big whoop.[/QUOTE]


Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior

MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, which completely offset his career points total.

stockton and kareem have equal or better career totals than lebron, but no one cares, and no one has EVER cared about career totals.. Miller has 3000 more points than Bird, but no one is dumb enough to say that he's a better scorer, yet I hear that crap about Lebron all the time (that he's the greatest scorer - in reality, LeBrokeJumper and LeStiffArm isn't a top 20 scorer all-time as far as his scoring skill and ability

[QUOTE=3ba11;15044219]Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior

MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, which completely offset his career points total.

stockton and kareem have equal or better career totals than lebron, but no one cares, and no one has EVER cared about career totals.. Miller has 3000 more points than Bird, but no one is dumb enough to say that he's a better scorer, yet I hear that crap about Lebron all the time (that he's the greatest scorer - in reality, LeBrokeJumper and [B]LeStiffArm isn't a top 20 scorer all-time as far as his scoring skill and ability[/B][/QUOTE]
Yep, the guy who's top 10 in both regular season and playoff ppg, and that's with him playing into his 40's, isn't even a top 20 scorer ever. A rational and intelligent take as always.

Jordan has the * that nobody else has

[QUOTE=3ba11;15044219]Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior

MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, which completely offset his career points total.

stockton and kareem have equal or better career totals than lebron, but no one cares, and no one has EVER cared about career totals.. Miller has 3000 more points than Bird, but no one is dumb enough to say that he's a better scorer, yet I hear that crap about Lebron all the time (that he's the greatest scorer - in reality, LeBrokeJumper and LeStiffArm isn't a top 20 scorer all-time as far as his scoring skill and ability[/QUOTE]

If.we got to know one thing after all these posts its gotta be this: you one weird ass mofo. Youre arguing that he isnt 1st in everything? Ive never even heard that take from the most deep throat level lebron stans bruh. When they say "hes got all the stats" they mean in a nutshell hes pretty good at everything, not hes 1st place in every stat ever. Thats just stupid shit somebody grown as you should be above. Hes amongst the top in almost every relevant category. This isnt up for discussion at this point.

And Miller never was said to be as good a scorer or better than Bird....because he wasnt. Duh. Meanwhile Lebrons ppg is top 10 of people to ever play a game in 75 plus years. His scoring totals around far beyond what anyone else has accumulated. Unless you want to do this groupie level handwringing over what looks prettier to you...its fair to say hes one of the greatest scorers to ever touch a basketball. And still adding to his gap after 23 seasons!

[QUOTE=3ba11;15044127].
I've mathematically solved Lebron's game[/QUOTE]

Whats the math on the number of accounts and posts you've spammed about Lebron at this point? Does your calculator go that high or did it start waving a white flag?