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Surprised that there's no thread about this. Over the weekend Paul announced that this will be his last season. He's had a good run.
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No one likes him
[QUOTE=GOBB;15044392]No one likes him[/QUOTE]
1987_Dudley does.
[QUOTE=Full Court;15044410]1987_Dudley does.[/QUOTE]
Rent free
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15044413]Rent free[/QUOTE]
:lol
First ballot HOF career, but has always been overrated. People try to rate him amongst the Wade and Moses tier in that 25-35 range, when in reality he should be in the 40-50 range with the Dwight and Pierce tier.
Should have retired at the end of 23-24. Matter of fact, he should probably walk away after the All-Star break. There's not going to be any farewell tour or video montage playing in opponent arenas, and it must suck playing for the cursed Clippers who are headed to the lottery.
[QUOTE=beasted;15044424][B]First ballot HOF career, but has always been overrated. [/B]People try to rate him amongst the Wade and Moses tier in that 25-35 range, when in reality he should be in the 40-50 range with the Dwight and Pierce tier.
Should have retired at the end of 23-24. Matter of fact, he should probably walk away after the All-Star break. There's not going to be any farewell tour or video montage playing in opponent arenas, and it must suck playing for the cursed Clippers who are headed to the lottery.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. Although I don't think there's any case for ranking him above Dwight.
[QUOTE=Full Court;15044501]I agree with this. [B]Although I don't think there's any case for ranking him above Dwight[/B].[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15044506]:roll:[/QUOTE]
Not surprised at all you'd disagree with that statement. Another thing to add to your ever-lengthening list of low IQ takes.
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[QUOTE=Full Court;15044501]I agree with this. Although I don't think there's any case for ranking him above Dwight.[/QUOTE]
I don't have him higher than Dwight either. The title really crystallized it for me. Howard was willing to accept a role on a contender doing the dirty work in his dwindling years, while CP chose to get one last payday to start for the Spurs. The pinnacle decision of a career loser.
[QUOTE=beasted;15044558]I don't have him higher than Dwight either. The title really crystallized it for me. Howard was willing to accept a role on a contender doing the dirty work in his dwindling years, while CP chose to get one last payday to start for the Spurs. The pinnacle decision of a career loser.[/QUOTE]
Chris Paul was making All-NBA Teams in his mid 30's and led his team to the Finals at that age.
By the time Dwight was in his 30's he was basically an afterthought in this league. Made his last all-star at age 28.
Anyone having Dwight ahead of CP3 in an all-time list needs their head examined.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15044563]Chris Paul was making All-NBA Teams in his mid 30's and led his team to the Finals at that age.
By the time Dwight was in his 30's he was basically an afterthought in this league. Made his last all-star at age 28.
Anyone having Dwight ahead of CP3 in an all-time list needs their head examined.[/QUOTE]
IIrc that guy also had Barkley top 40, so his rankings are a little wacky.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15044563]Chris Paul was making All-NBA Teams in his mid 30's and led his team to the Finals at that age.
By the time Dwight was in his 30's he was basically an afterthought in this league. Made his last all-star at age 28.
Anyone having Dwight ahead of CP3 in an all-time list needs their head examined.[/QUOTE]
The point I was making is that Chris Paul is the reason that Chris Paul doesn't have a title. Whether it was his girl hamstrings always getting injured, or a terrible performance or -- in the event of the Spurs decision -- selfish pride.
I respect Dwight more despite the shorter peak for being able to carry a team to the Finals as the best player on his team while beating the best player at the time in LeBron. CP has done absolutely nothing that comes close to topping that feat. But, like I said, the sacrifice to win the title compared to CP's pride to start somewhere really solidified that CP is not a winner and that I tip my hat to Dwight on who had the better career of the two.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15044563]Chris Paul was making All-NBA Teams in his mid 30's and led his team to the Finals at that age.
By the time Dwight was in his 30's he was basically an afterthought in this league. Made his last all-star at age 28.
Anyone having Dwight ahead of CP3 in an all-time list needs their head examined.[/QUOTE]
We already know that you reward choking. That's why you overrate Lebron. So of course you're also going to over-rank CP.
[QUOTE=beasted;15044424]First ballot HOF career, but has always been overrated. People try to rate him amongst the Wade and Moses tier in that 25-35 range, when in reality he should be in the 40-50 range with the Dwight and Pierce tier.
Should have retired at the end of 23-24. Matter of fact, he should probably walk away after the All-Star break. There's not going to be any farewell tour or video montage playing in opponent arenas, and it must suck playing for the cursed Clippers who are headed to the lottery.[/QUOTE]
Why do people put Dwayne Wade in the same conversation as Moses Malone and Chris Paul. Look Wade was a fine player in the top ten of SG's of all-time, but he only played like half a career and did nothing without Lebron and Shaq.
CPIII was an elevator of talent which is what you want from a PG, he was the best PG of his generation. He didn't get MVP's for political reasons but his impact was felt on the Hornets, Clippers, Rockets, Thunder, and Suns.
He's top five in steals, assists, and VORP
The domino effect of the owners being salty about the Lakers which led to the trade veto in 2011 ruined his legacy and it also took a ring away from LA/cost us a likely Kobe vs. Lebron Finals series. Lakers gave up Odom for basically nothing because this trade was agreed upon so not only did they not get CP3 they also lost one of their 4 best players for nothing. :facepalm Imagine they ended up with Kobe/CP3/Dwight in 2012.. :(
[QUOTE=ImKobe;15044707]The domino effect of the owners being salty about the Lakers which led to the trade veto in 2011 ruined his legacy and it also took a ring away from LA/cost us a likely Kobe vs. Lebron Finals series. Lakers gave up Odom for basically nothing because this trade was agreed upon so not only did they not get CP3 they also lost one of their 4 best players for nothing. :facepalm Imagine they ended up with Kobe/CP3/Dwight in 2012.. :([/QUOTE]
The domino effect of the 2011 trade veto is him retiring 14 years later at age 40?
[QUOTE=beasted;15044588]The point I was making is that Chris Paul is the reason that Chris Paul doesn't have a title. Whether it was his girl hamstrings always getting injured, or a terrible performance or -- in the event of the Spurs decision -- selfish pride.
I respect Dwight more despite the shorter peak for being able to carry a team to the Finals as the best player on his team while beating the best player at the time in LeBron. CP has done absolutely nothing that comes close to topping that feat. But, like I said, the sacrifice to win the title compared to CP's pride to start somewhere really solidified that CP is not a winner and that I tip my hat to Dwight on who had the better career of the two.[/QUOTE]
2x finals appearance
3x dpoy before his back disintegrate?
Easily over cpflop
Highly overrated. So many black marks. Also "Point God" is the cringiest nickname in sports and very inaccurate.