70% of Americans oppose starting a war with Venezuela

[URL="https://www.axios.com/2025/11/26/trump-venezuela-maduro-america-first"]I would compare this to another Iraq war but I actually have no idea. [/URL] How many will die and how much more debt will be accrued?

I am sure that overthrowing a foreign government would come at a massive cost, both in terms of lives lost (most of these would be Venezuelan, and I have accepted the fact that certain people don't care about the lives of non-American whites, but it's not particularly Christian of you) as well as immense spending (if you can't properly fund SNAP or health care why the **** are you spending trillions to start an unprovoked war?).

But so far congress isn't doing anything about the President's war powers. If Trump decides to do it I think it's going to happen.

cool story bro

I find it hilariously funny how Americans are so concerned about the sovereignty of countries they support but when countries that don't want to use the american dollar as a base currency and let America rape them of natural resources that don't belong to them then they are declared terrorists, why should another country give a flying fu(k about America's economic or national security interests when it interferes with running their own country.

Just admit you want the oil and a tiny little country like Venezuela is telling you to pay for it or get fu(ked, so instead you want to an unnecessary start a war for it you fabricate reasons to go to war get what you want, straight small di(k energy

[QUOTE=Big_Dogg;15044824]I find it hilariously funny how Americans are so concerned about the sovereignty of countries they support but when countries that don't want to use the american dollar as a base currency and let America rape them of natural resources that don't belong to them then they are declared terrorists, why should another country give a flying fu(k about America's economic or national security interests when it interferes with running their own country.

Just admit you want the oil and a tiny little country like Venezuela is telling you to pay for it or get fu(ked, so instead you want to an unnecessary start a war for it you fabricate reasons to go to war get what you want, straight small di(k energy[/QUOTE]

Dude..what? Venezuela and Maduro's regime are the only reasons that Americans have access to drugs. Keep up..

[QUOTE=Big_Dogg;15044824]I find it hilariously funny how Americans are so concerned about the sovereignty of countries they support but when countries that don't want to use the american dollar as a base currency and let America rape them of natural resources that don't belong to them then they are declared terrorists, why should another country give a flying fu(k about America's economic or national security interests when it interferes with running their own country.

Just admit you want the oil and a tiny little country like Venezuela is telling you to pay for it or get fu(ked, so instead you want to an unnecessary start a war for it you fabricate reasons to go to war get what you want, [B]straight small di(k energy[/B][/QUOTE]

Don't you mean big dikk energy? Lol, last time I checked the big dikk takes what it wants.

People in general are against war but in reality they only care about the cost. If soldiers die and we don't gain much in return, then yes you will lose the average person. In hindsight I don't know a single person who thought the Iraq war was a good idea or a net benefit. It's mostly viewed as a colossal failure and it helped sway the election back to democrats in 2008. Even Trump ran on W's failures in the 2015.

But truth be told, if there's barely any cost to us and it improves things back home, nobody is gonna give a flying fukk. If you tell the average person that some ruthless dictator is being displaced, I don't think they're gonna lose that much sleep over it.

Not when gas prices are down.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15044856]Don't you mean big dikk energy? Lol, last time I checked the big dikk takes what it wants.

People in general are against war but in reality they only care about the cost. If soldiers die and we don't gain much in return, then yes you will lose the average person. In hindsight I don't know a single person who thought the Iraq war was a good idea or a net benefit. It's mostly viewed as a colossal failure and it helped sway the election back to democrats in 2008. Even Trump ran on W's failures in the 2015.

But truth be told, if there's barely any cost to us and it improves things back home, nobody is gonna give a flying fukk. If you tell the average person that some ruthless dictator is being displaced, I don't think they're gonna lose that much sleep over it.

Not when gas prices are down.[/QUOTE]

The idea that it's OK for unknown (tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands?) Numbers of people to die so that you can save a little money on gas is evil thinking. You're no better than a thief and a murderer. You just wouldn't want to personally get your hands dirty.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15044858]The idea that it's OK for unknown (tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands?) [B]Numbers of people to die so that you can save a little money on gas is evil thinking.[/B] You're no better than a thief and a murderer. You just wouldn't want to personally get your hands dirty.[/QUOTE]

Who said anything about people dying? I clearly put that disclaimer in my post and said that if people die, people won't stand for it.

Are you illiterate? Or do I just make you THAT emotional and you just start raging without reading my post.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15044861]Who said anything about people dying? I clearly put that disclaimer in my post and said that if people die, people won't stand for it.

Are you illiterate? Or do I just make you THAT emotional and you just start raging without reading my post.[/QUOTE]

You said "soldiers" die. Beyond the idiocy of the idea that you can depose the leader of a country without losing a single soldier you apparently don't seem to realize that there would be a massive number of civilian casualties. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt here and say that you're just a moron and not evil.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15044869]You said "soldiers" die. Beyond the idiocy of the idea that you can depose the leader of a country without losing a single soldier you apparently don't seem to realize that there would be a massive number of civilian casualties. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt here and say that you're just a moron and not evil.[/QUOTE]

Then by all means you are welcome to air your grievances when that takes place. As it stands we haven't lost a single soldier or taken a single civilian life.

I also think it's hilarious you're trying to paint me as some type of villain for daring to point out that gas prices could go down. Newsflash most of your modern comforts and conveniences already depend on unfair global power structures. I don't see you in a rush to give back your cheap electronics produced under low wage labor or your clothing produced in sweatshops. As we speak you have people on this forum crying about Trump rounding up illegals because we need them for a low wage slave labor. Jasmine Crockett was bold enough to say it herself. "WE DONE PICKING COTTON!!"

[url]https://x.com/REVWUTRUTH/status/1910105105371984337?s=20[/url]

But sure, I'm evil. Not the democrats that want to keep their indentured servants.

Do you even know what this topic is about?

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15044895]Do you even know what this topic is about?[/QUOTE]

"Numbers of people to die so that you can save a little money on gas is evil thinking...."

But it's okay for you to save on electronics. It's okay for democrats to keep their indentured servants.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15044897]"Numbers of people to die so that you can save a little money on gas is evil thinking...."

But it's okay for you to save on electronics. It's okay for democrats to keep their indentured servants.[/QUOTE]

So you do not actually know what this topic is about. Figured.

I'm the only Venezuelan born person on this site and I'm all for a war.

[QUOTE=fsvr54;15044910]I'm the only Venezuelan born person on this site and I'm all for a war.[/QUOTE]

i'm american born and i am against it bc i don't want more resources spent for stupid causes like invading a country for it's oil.

hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15044736][URL="https://www.axios.com/2025/11/26/trump-venezuela-maduro-america-first"]I would compare this to another Iraq war but I actually have no idea. [/URL] How many will die and how much more debt will be accrued?

I am sure that overthrowing a foreign government would come at a massive cost, both in terms of lives lost (most of these would be Venezuelan, and I have accepted the fact that certain people don't care about the lives of non-American whites, but it's not particularly Christian of you) as well as immense spending (if you can't properly fund SNAP or health care why the **** are you spending trillions to start an unprovoked war?).

But so far congress isn't doing anything about the President's war powers. If Trump decides to do it I think it's going to happen.[/QUOTE]

You don't care about black lives otherwise you wouldn't be pro abortion. That's not very loving and accepting of diversity of you.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15044913]You don't care about black lives otherwise you wouldn't be pro abortion. That's not very loving and accepting of diversity of you.[/QUOTE]

I'm aware of your racist beliefs and not particularly interested in your warped world view. Thanks for playing.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15044901]So you do not actually know what this topic is about. Figured.[/QUOTE]

I was responding to YOUR point dipshit.

Don't cry and get upset because your own logic was applied to you instead.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15044942]I was responding to YOUR point dipshit.

Don't cry and get upset because your own logic was applied to you instead.[/QUOTE]

No, you went off on a tangent and then argued with the voices in your head. It's what you do.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15044944]No, you went off on a tangent and then argued with the voices in your head. It's what you do.[/QUOTE]

You tried to insinuate I was evil for daring to suggest that Americans could benefit economically by displacing a foreign dictator. Therefore I think it's perfectly reasonable and fair to point out that you yourself benefit from certain luxuries and conveniences as a result of other people's suffering.

You should think twice before you label others.

I have never endorsed invading another country so that I can save money on a smartphone. You are once again arguing with the voices in your head.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15044918]I'm aware of your racist beliefs and not particularly interested in your warped world view. Thanks for playing.[/QUOTE]

Only a ****ing moron would deny genetic racial differences, lol.

To do so would be to deny undeniable in your face reality and evolution which is obviously true.

You would have to be a reality denying moron to believe that these two women share most of the same genes.

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/7Pcn71Sm/Gr1286ZXYAAz7l3.jpg[/IMG]

That's like saying a German Shepard has the same genes as a Bulldog because they're both dogs. It's just an absurd proposition from the get go.

That reminds me of that one meme comic.

[IMG]https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/amAn1g9_460s.jpg[/IMG]

And for the record I don't hate anyone based on the color of their skin. Not a single person. But after I meet them, their behavior typically does not disappoint.

In the sense that I observe objective reality and observe massive statistical trends that are very obviously due to more than socioeconomic factors, I am a racist.

In the sense that I hate a person for their skin color or entire groups of people based on their skin color, no, I am not a racist.

Again: I am aware of your racism. Not particularly interested in how you justify yourself. Definitely has nothing to do with this topic. Moving on.

[QUOTE]
. If Trump decides to do it I think it's going to happen.
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You have an extremely myopic view of the world if you think Trump or whoever is calling the shots here.

This stuff is all a global collaboration with many high level parties involved.

[QUOTE=Big_Dogg;15044824]I find it hilariously funny how Americans are so concerned about the sovereignty of countries they support but when countries that don't want to use the american dollar as a base currency and let America rape them of natural resources that don't belong to them then they are declared terrorists, why should another country give a flying fu(k about America's economic or national security interests when it interferes with running their own country.

Just admit you want the oil and a tiny little country like Venezuela is telling you to pay for it or get fu(ked, so instead you want to an unnecessary start a war for it you fabricate reasons to go to war get what you want, straight small di(k energy[/QUOTE]


Real Men Wears Pink doesn't understand the motives behind what puppet presidents do.

Hes just in it for the tabloids and TMZ.

Which is why he wears pink. :lol

[QUOTE=tpols;15044973]You have an extremely myopic view of the world if you think Trump or whoever is calling the shots here.

This stuff is all a global collaboration with many high level parties involved.[/QUOTE]

I would be surprised if you actually knew what the word "myopic" means, though I suppose you can Google it. If it makes you happoer for me to repeatedly say, "the people behind the decisions Trump signs of on in between rants about liberals at 3am in social media while Bondi changes his diaper"...**** off I'm not going to.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15044968]You would have to be a reality denying moron to believe that these two women share most of the same genes.

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/7Pcn71Sm/Gr1286ZXYAAz7l3.jpg[/IMG]

That's like saying a German Shepard has the same genes as a Bulldog because they're both dogs. It's just an absurd proposition from the get go.

That reminds me of that one meme comic.

[IMG]https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/amAn1g9_460s.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Tell us you failed biology, without telling us you failed biology

Spoiler alert: everyone is racist. People just lie about it for virtue signaling reasons. lol.

[QUOTE=Chick Stern;15044981]Tell us you failed biology, without telling us you failed biology[/QUOTE]



Hes right in the sense that we all differentiated genetically speaking on extremely divergent evolutionary paths.

Same way all dogs came from wolves but there's a huge difference between a chihuahua and a German Sheppard or Kangal. To not recognize that is crazy.

It just is what it is.

[QUOTE=Chick Stern;15044981]Tell us you failed biology, without telling us you failed biology[/QUOTE]

Yes, yes. People can have different pigmentation in their skin, different hair colors, different nose shapes, wildly different skull structures, different physical characteristics such as metabolism, ability to put on muscle mass and doing well in certain physical environments etc. BUT!!! BUT!!! when it comes to that brain between their ears? Everyone is all the same. Men and women. All races. All the same. lol. Lying idiot.