Tension between Luka and LeBron? Or nothing in it? What do you think?

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If you include times you go to the line as a shot, Reeves and Doncic are almost getting off 2x the shots LeBron is. At some point, that needs to even out. Of course some will say "Why does it have to? Lakers are winning". While the Lakers have beaten a lot of average teams and a few good teams, they've struggled against the best teams. They'll need LeBron to be a lead contributor not a role player to beat the best.

They don't need James to be a major scorer. The main benefit to having Doncic is that he's a whole offense just by himself and then they have Reaves as a secondary scorer. So unless it's an ego thing (and so far that doesn't seem to be an issue) James can do other things to help and stay healthy by not carrying the offensive load. It may mean that he no longer plays like a star but he at least is saying that his goal is winning not about big stats and he's in his 40s what are you expecting from one of the oldest players of all time?

Is this a serious post? What is wrong with people? Oh wait, most people are morons.

We've seen Lebron's passive agressive and pouty behavior before. He's a teenage girl in a man's body. So knowing what his personality is like, I guarantee he's bitter and jealous about being a sideshow on Luka's team - no matter how much he tries not to show it.

[QUOTE=Full Court;15045173]We've seen Lebron's passive agressive and pouty behavior before. He's a teenage girl in a man's body. So knowing what his personality is like, I guarantee he's bitter and jealous about being a sideshow on Luka's team - no matter how much he tries not to show it.[/QUOTE]

This!

[QUOTE=Full Court;15045173]We've seen Lebron's passive agressive and pouty behavior before. He's a teenage girl in a man's body. So knowing what his personality is like, I guarantee he's bitter and jealous about being a sideshow on Luka's team - no matter how much he tries not to show it.[/QUOTE]

This. People like to do the Check his $tats with LeBron but they don’t acknowledge he has lackluster intangibles to say the least. I know it’s a cliche term but it works in this situation saying that he’s just not Alpha. He’s passive aggressive to the extent where it becomes toxic.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15045267]This. People like to do the Check his $tats with LeBron but they don’t acknowledge he has lackluster intangibles to say the least. I know it’s a cliche term but it works in this situation saying that he’s just not Alpha. He’s passive aggressive to the extent where it becomes toxic.[/QUOTE]

Two years ago I would have agreed but at this point he's really old and I think would be okay giving up the reigns. He might talk a little too much for Luka's liking though, but it so far doesn't seem to be an issue on the court.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15045269]Two years ago I would have agreed but at this point he's really old and I think would be okay giving up the reigns. He might talk a little too much for Luka's liking though, but it so far doesn't seem to be an issue on the court.[/QUOTE]

We'll have to wait until they start playing better teams. The losses will tell us more.

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You guys love drama like girls, wtf. Move the fk on, nothing there.

Seriously, the only people who would even consider this stupid shit!t are women who grew up in drama filled homes, and NEED it, f@gs that never played the game themselves at a high level (and only pay attention to dramatic narratives, not actual competition), and of course, the nebbishy nepotism benefactor-f@gs planted undeservingly in the media like Windhorst, Matt Whiner, Kenny Albert, etc .. who schizophrenically love stirring sh!t up to create problems and arguments where there are none.

Disgusting. If I had it my way, we could collectively ban these types from any and all participation of any aspect of the sport, media included.

Luka and Reeves can't beat the best teams in the league. They can't beat OKC, they can't beat the Pistons in a series. If you think they're going to win, with LeBron as a role player, you are dreaming.

LeBron may have taken a step back with his age; he is still one of the top 5 players to have every played this game. Fortunately, I doubt Reddick is as out to lunch as some people here are.

Teammates are supposed to get a little annoyed with each other every now and then

Even the best team is occasionally argue event

[QUOTE=bdonovan;15045314]Luka and Reeves can't beat the best teams in the league. They can't beat OKC, they can't beat the Pistons in a series. If you think they're going to win, with LeBron as a role player, you are dreaming.

LeBron may have taken a step back with his age; he is still one of the top 5 players to have every played this game. Fortunately, I doubt Reddick is as out to lunch as some people here are.[/QUOTE]

The last time James made the Finals was 5 years ago and he is now over 40. Doncic dominated the West just two years ago and is still under 30. Pretty sure James has not been to the second round since and had even missed the playoffs. This is not prime Lebron James. At some point you should let that idea go and accept his current reality as James himself seems to have.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15047114]The last time James made the Finals was 5 years ago and he is now over 40. Doncic dominated the West just two years ago and is still under 30. [B]Pretty sure James has not been to the second round since and had even missed the playoffs.[/B] This is not prime Lebron James. At some point you should let that idea go and accept his current reality as James himself seems to have.[/QUOTE]

Darvin Ham led Lakers to the conference finals in '23.

Forgot about that. He's still 40, Doncic has still dominated the conference more recently and Doncic is still in his prime while James is clearly on the downside.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15047114]The last time James made the Finals was 5 years ago and he is now over 40. Doncic dominated the West just two years ago and is still under 30. Pretty sure James has not been to the second round since and had even missed the playoffs. This is not prime Lebron James. At some point you should let that idea go and accept his current reality as James himself seems to have.[/QUOTE]
2023? Regardless, essentially everything you said is irrelevant. Nobody is saying LeBron is better than Luka or should be the number 1 option on the team.

The problem is with Luka and AR dominating the hell out of the ball and not featuring LeBron at all. They can beat average teams. But against the good teams and in the playoffs when they don’t get those bs calls, it simply won’t work. JJ needs to be using the RS to experiment how to feature LeBron as the primary playmaker and decrease the time Luka/AR use 2/3rds of the shot clock dribbling nowhere. Other Lakers players have even voiced this issue themselves.

The flawed theory here is the idea that LebronJames is magic. He's their third-best offensive player. He's 40. No one dominates in the NBA at 40. It's never happened. If you really want to address the Lakers' weakness is on the other side of the ball. They just gave up 132 points to the Spurs without Wemby. That's an issue they need to deal with. Could lead to trading one of their top players (Reeves) and then maybe James does more but if you're going to play these three guys just emphasizing one more at the expense of others' touches isn't going to make them better than they are right now.

[QUOTE=Bankaii;15047145]2023? Regardless, essentially everything you said is irrelevant. Nobody is saying LeBron is better than Luka or should be the number 1 option on the team.

The problem is with Luka and AR dominating the hell out of the ball and not featuring LeBron at all. They can beat average teams. But against the good teams and in the playoffs when they don’t get those bs calls, it simply won’t work. JJ needs to be using the RS to experiment how to feature LeBron as the primary playmaker and decrease the time Luka/AR use 2/3rds of the shot clock dribbling nowhere. Other Lakers players have even voiced this issue themselves.[/QUOTE]

You really think Lebron dominating the ball and using 2/3 of the shot clock dribbling nowhere is going to improve anything? How did that work out for the Lakers the last 3 seasons?

Kyrie, IT, Westbrook and Ingram didn't like Lebron either, or fit with him.. It's because Lebron-ball isn't optimal and clashes with other ballhandlers - it turns everyone into spot-up shooters, aka bad chemistry, so it perennially loses and needs teammate bailouts to win, or a shortened season that no one cares about.. It can't win a normal ring without teammate bailout or mickey mouse shortened season

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The problem is with Luka and AR dominating the hell out of the ball and [B]not featuring LeBron at all[/B].


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Curry wouldn't need to be "featured".. He would easily average 20+ and he wouldn't disrupt anyone - Reaves and Luka would still get 30-35 each

So it's a skillset issue, aka Lebron lacks the expert jumpshooting skill and off-ball game to fit with Luka and Reaves.. Curry wouldn't have this issue, and neither would MJ, who excelled in the triangle, aka "equal-opportunity" - the triangle didn't "feature" anyone - everyone ran the same routes and had the same read-react decisions to make

[QUOTE=3ba11;15047166]Curry wouldn't need to be "featured".. He would easily average 20+ and he wouldn't disrupt anyone - Reaves and Luka would still get 30-35 each

So it's a skillset issue, aka Lebron lacks the expert jumpshooting skill and off-ball game to fit with Luka and Reaves.. Curry wouldn't have this issue, and neither would MJ, who excelled in the triangle, aka "equal-opportunity" - the triangle didn't "feature" anyone - everyone ran the same routes and had the same read-react decisions to make[/QUOTE]

Also Curry is one of those guys that willing takes a back seat. He was pushed into sidekick status by a guy who couldn't get Westbrook to pass him the ball lol.

None too concerning at all.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15045149]Oh wait, most people are morons.[/QUOTE]
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Speaking of tension, the stinky idiot Axe has a TON of tension in the waistline of his pants. :roll:



But back on topic. If the Lakers manage to make it deep into the playoffs and it looks like Luka has a chance at getting FMVP, you'll see Lebron sabotaging the crap out of him. You heard it here first.