the NFL brings in more money than World Soccer

plus team values

In fact, the top 20 NFL teams alone make more money than all of World Soccer....I did not know that, I thought the all popular World Soccer made more.

[url]http://vball.freeshell.org/valuations.html[/url]

NFL totals (32 Teams) Value $23,443 Revenue $5,330
NFL totals (Top 20 Teams) Value $15,881 Revenue $3,554
World Soccer totals (20 Teams) Value $8,853 Revenue $3,189

team values:

1 Manchester United $1,186
1 Washington Redskins $1,104
2 Dallas Cowboys $923
3 Houston Texans $905
4 New England Patriots $861
5 Philadelphia Eagles $833
2 Juventus $828
6 Denver Broncos $815
7 Cleveland Browns $798
8 Chicago Bears $785
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $779
10 Baltimore Ravens $776
11 Miami Dolphins $765
12 Carolina Panthers $760
3 AC Milan $759
13 Green Bay Packers $756
4 Real Madrid $751
14 Detroit Lions $747
15 Tennessee Titans $736
16 Pittsburgh Steelers $717
17 Seattle Seahawks $712
18 Kansas City Chiefs $709
19 St Louis Rams $708
20 New York Giants $692
21 Jacksonville Jaguars $688
22 New York Jets $685
23 Cincinnati Bengals $675
24 Buffalo Bills $637
25 San Francisco 49ers $636
26 New Orleans Saints $627
27 Oakland Raiders $624
28 San Diego Chargers $622
5 Bayern Munich $617
29 Indianapolis Colts $609
30 Minnesota Vikings $604
31 Atlanta Falcons $603
6 Internazionale $558
32 Arizona Cardinals $552
7 Arsenal $482
8 Liverpool $447
9 Newcastle United $398
10 Borussia Dortmund $355
11 Barcelona $345
12 Schalke 04 $340
13 Chelsea $339
14 AS Roma $304
15 Tottenham Hotspur $275
16 Celtic $200
17 Olympique Lyonnais $194
18 Glasgow Rangers $166
19 SS Lazio $162
20 Leeds United $147

It's called great marketing dumb****. Soccer is considerably more popular than football.

A Soccer team is top of the list


Edit, ps there is no truth to that list Chelsea and Barcelona are now worth alot more and Leeds United are now bankrupt

[QUOTE=i seen hippos]It's called great marketing dumb****. Soccer is considerably more popular than football.[/QUOTE]
I made mention to the fact that World Soccer is more popular in the OP...can you read?

I just thought it was cool to see a list of all the team values compared

I never made any claim to popularity

great marketing?...ok

I knew Man U was the highest revenue generating team in the world so I assumed almost all the top 10 teams were soccer teams. This is pretty amazing that the NFL generates so much more revenue from it's fans in the USA than world soccer. I guess the soccer fans aren't as hardcore as I thought they were. After all, people put their money where their hearts are.

[QUOTE=-primetime-]I made mention to the fact that World Soccer is more popular in the OP...can you read?

I just thought it was cool to see a list of all the team values compared

I never made any claim to popularity

great marketing?...ok[/QUOTE]

When you say the NFL makes a lot more then mention the popularity of soccer, it sounds like you're being sarcastic or mocking it.

You know what I'm saying, eh?

[QUOTE=SunsN07BookIt]I knew Man U was the highest revenue generating team in the world so I assumed almost all the top 10 teams were soccer teams. This is pretty amazing that the NFL generates so much more revenue from it's fans in the USA than world soccer. I guess the soccer fans aren't as hardcore as I thought they were. After all, people put their money where their hearts are.[/QUOTE]
I think it is the fact that there are more fans in the US that have money...???

people all over Brazil are head over heels nuts for soccer but none of them have a penny...

could I be right?

[QUOTE=i seen hippos]When you say the NFL makes a lot more then mention the popularity of soccer, it sounds like you're being sarcastic or mocking it.

You know what I'm saying, eh?[/QUOTE]
no....I was just shocked to learn that the NFL generates more money than soccer does...

but now that I look at it...it really isn't that big of a surprise since soccer is so popular in poor countries...

[QUOTE=-primetime-]I think it is the fact that there are more fans in the US that have money...???

[/QUOTE]

You could be right. I didn't realize that Europe was that much poorer than the USA especially with all their free health care, higher education and stuff.

To put things in perspective, I think a World Cup brings in more revenue then an entire NFL season.

I don't understand what was the point of your post, it's not even logical what you're claiming...those 20 NFL teams are all inside the United States borders...name me a country that has more money then US, a more important question...name me a country that has a greater marketing scheme then US...soccer is a much more popular sport, however there are hardly any elite teams in the United States.

[QUOTE=SunsN07BookIt]You could be right. I didn't realize that Europe was that much poorer than the USA especially with all their free health care, higher education and stuff.[/QUOTE]
higher education?

the Ivy league is in the US...they have what? Oxford?

alot of Europe is very poor.

free health care?

how come they don't have dentists over there?

[QUOTE=Los Angeles]To put things in perspective, I think a World Cup brings in more revenue then an entire NFL season.

I don't understand what was the point of your post,[B] it's not even logical what you're claiming[/B]...those 20 NFL teams are all inside the United States borders...name me a country that has more money then US, a more important question...name me a country that has a greater marketing scheme then US...soccer is a much more popular sport, however there are hardly any elite teams in the United States.[/QUOTE]
what I am claiming?...what is not logical?

that the NFL generates more money than World Soccer...yeah...Forbes says so....I would have to think that includes the World Cup.

and you are right, soccer is more popular, but the NFL brings in more cash.

[QUOTE=-primetime-]higher education?

the Ivy league is in the US...they have what? Oxford?

[/QUOTE]

The key word there was "free"(although it really isn't). The Ivy League as with pretty much every other form of higher education in the US is not free, then again neither is Oxford.

NFL brings in more money because of the [B]market[/B] it's in.

[QUOTE=Los Angeles]NFL brings in more money because of the [B]market[/B] it's in.[/QUOTE]
i said that

the US has more money...

I guess I'm trying to understand why you made this thread, you're comparing apples to oranges here.

[QUOTE=Los Angeles]I guess I'm trying to understand why you made this thread, you're comparing apples to oranges here.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was interesting that the NFL brings in more money (i never knew that) and I also thought it was cool to see a list of the teams value in comparison to each other....(lmao at Arizona)

why does this thread offend you or something?

[quote]Soccer is considerably more popular than football.[/quote]

Yep, the world is full of idiots.

[QUOTE=Jackass18]Yep, the world is full of idiots.[/QUOTE]
well...to be fair I wouldn't say they are idiots...they just don't have yet to be properly exposed to football.

In the US we have all played soccer at one point in time....you can't say the same about other countries and football though.

they just need someone to show them the light, that's all.

soccer is more popular in the world football is the popular sport in the u.s. by far

it has to do with the structure. Germany alone has thousands of soccer clubs. It all starts in th BuLi

Bundesliga->2. Bundesliga->Regionalliga Nord/S

[QUOTE=-primetime-]well...to be fair I wouldn't say they are idiots...they just don't have yet to be properly exposed to football.

In the US we have all played soccer at one point in time....you can't say the same about other countries and football though.

they just need someone to show them the light, that's all.[/QUOTE]
you are so dumb and ignorant it's unbelievable. In Germany everyone who wants to watch American football can do it, it's just that barely anyone wants. Soccer is king, and I doubt that American football will ever increase it's current popularity. It's seen, just like Wrestling as a massively overblown event, and not as a sport.

It's just a cultural thing. I tried several times to watch a NFL game, but couldn't stand all the brakes. To each his own, and more often than not this means soccer.

But neither make as much as NBA refs.....

no **** that the top 20 nfl teams make more than the top 20 soccer teams.

The whole point about soccer is that there are literally HUNDREDS of teams. Compare the revenue generated by the NFL, CFL, etc to all of the soccer teams in the world.

Yeah, there is a huge distortion here. ALl interest in football and revenue for that matter is focused on 30 teams where as there are hundreds and hundreds of pro soccer teams.

A simple search on the internet shows WOrld CUp ticket sales alone exceed 1 billion dollars and total revenue is 16+ Billion, and that was in '96.

I don't think that is included in the Forbes study.

The USA has what, a population of 300 million?
No European country even comes close, so soccer teams make less money.

It's pretty simple.

lmao @ all of the people getting offended by this thread.

Like many have posted, in football, you have a great choice of leagues and games to watch, while in the NFL, theres one league, one choice to watch. In football, you have Series A, La Liga, Premier League, Bundelsiga, French Ligue 1, SuperLig, MLS, Mexican Liga, etc. etc. etc. Put together 30 teams from those leagues and have ONE super league world wide[cancel those other leagues] and I can guarantee you that world football will top the nfl money wise. AC, Inter, Juventes, ManU, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Galaxy[Becks $$], Lyon, Barcelona, Real Madrid and the list goes on and on.

[QUOTE=qrich]Like many have posted, in football, you have a great choice of leagues and games to watch, while in the NFL, theres one league, one choice to watch. In football, you have Series A, La Liga, Premier League, Bundelsiga, French Ligue 1, SuperLig, MLS, Mexican Liga, etc. etc. etc. Put together 30 teams from those leagues and have ONE super league world wide[cancel those other leagues] and I can guarantee you that world football will top the nfl money wise. [B]AC, Inter, Juventes, ManU, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Galaxy[Becks $$], Lyon, Barcelona, Real Madrid and the list goes on and on[/B].[/QUOTE]
the value of those teams are all listed in the OP

they are below most NFL teams...except for Manchester United

[QUOTE=-primetime-]higher education?

the Ivy league is in the US...they have what? Oxford?

alot of Europe is very poor.

free health care?

how come they don't have dentists over there?[/QUOTE]

the schools are much harder in England than the US BUT the school system is better in the US b/c there is more opporunity.

you screw up bad? Go to a community college and work back up again.

[QUOTE=-primetime-]the value of those teams are all listed in the OP

they are below most NFL teams...except for Manchester United[/QUOTE]

you arent getting it...If those were the ONLY POSSIBLE TEAMS that you could root for in the whole world of soccer then it would make more money.

[QUOTE=Hawker]the schools are much harder in England than the US BUT the school system is better in the US b/c there is more opporunity.

you screw up bad? Go to a community college and work back up again.[/QUOTE]
I was about to reply to you post asking me to back up how alot of Europe is poor...

what happened to it?....did you decide it was a dumb question?

[QUOTE=Hawker]you arent getting it...If those were the ONLY POSSIBLE TEAMS that you could root for in the whole world of soccer then it would make more money.[/QUOTE]
those are the teams that play for the World Cup right?:confusedshrug:

am I supposed to include college football as well...

this is just a comparison of the NFL to World Soccer....that doesn't include the MLS or any other league....teams that play for the World Cup

[QUOTE=-primetime-]I was about to reply to you post asking me to back up how alot of Europe is poor...

what happened to it?....did you decide it was a dumb question?[/QUOTE]

I had a much better point and it wasnt the question it was stating how dumb of a statment that is, "a lot of Europe is poor" doenst sound very smart and someone would be dumb to believe that from somebody on the internet.

You ALWAYS make random ass statements out of ignorance or back-up.

[QUOTE=Hawker]you arent getting it...If those were the ONLY POSSIBLE TEAMS that you could root for in the whole world of soccer then it would make more money.[/QUOTE]

thats why its the NFL, not american football. He's comparing the two biggest leagues for the sports.

There are other football teams. What about NCAA football, high school football, AFL, Australian football...

The NFL aren't the only teams we can vote for.

If you guys want to include all of the smaller soccer leagues, then you would need to include all of the smaller football leagues too. And that's not what he's doing. He's simply comparing the two largest leagues.

[QUOTE=-primetime-]those are the teams that play for the World Cup right?:confusedshrug:

am I supposed to include college football as well...

this is just a comparison of the NFL to World Soccer....that doesn't include the MLS or any other league....teams that play for the World Cup[/QUOTE]

I am not talking about the goddamn world cup. Club teams dont play in the World cup; Only national teams do. Do you see any national teams up there?

If you want to include World cup alone, goddamn that would be a lot of money.

What qrich is saying if you took the top 32 club teams in soccer IN THE WHOLE WORLD and made it into one league and ONLY one league then it would make more money then the NFL.

What I am saying is the value of each of those teams would skyrocket and surpass the NFL teams.

And about NCAA football, those players FEED into NFL football.

those teams would have youth teams.

[QUOTE=-primetime-]plus team values
[/QUOTE]


this interesting, but you're forgetting an important thing. 32 football teams represent the whole NFL, and almost the whole worldly played american football.

The first 20 football teams in the world are far from being even a slight part of "all the soccer in the world", obviously from the popularity point of view, but als the economical.
To explain what I'm talkin about, I'll tell you how big is the soccer world in Italy only. You can compare it to US. Football.
Each team has an average of 22 players (to help you make the comparison)

Serie A (the first division) is a 20 teams division
Serie B counts 24 teams
Serie C is divided in 5 groups, each of 20 teams
Serie D is divided in.. I think something like 10 groups, each of about 20 teams

These are the national leagues
Each player of each team in each of this groups can live with what he earns from his play. That's almost 8000 players, in Italy.

Then there's the "half-amateurs".
That's to say, in every region (Italy is divided in 20 regions) has:
Eccellenza (10 groups or something)
Promozione (idem)
1st, 2nd, and 3rd categories, eache of some groups.
The teams in this categories are from half professional to "let's catch up with the bar mates and play soccer against other people"
Even so, even the worse of this teams, the one you could build up with your friends to have something to do 3 nights a week, has so much money to waste (something like 10'000 euros every year) that I'm embarassed to say it.

This should explain what I was meaning. US football is super-hyped, filled with money to the bone, but this is (also) because almost the whole economical and social attention of a half continent is directed towards 32 teams.

[QUOTE=Hawker]I had a much better point and it wasnt the question it was stating how dumb of a statment that is, "a lot of Europe is poor" doenst sound very smart and someone would be dumb to believe that from somebody on the internet.

You ALWAYS make random ass statements out of ignorance or back-up.[/QUOTE]
wtf??

so ALL of Europe is rich???

obviously there are poor parts of Europe...

but since you asked me to back it up alright....let us compare Europe to the Untited States

[B]United States:[/B]

Unemployment : 4.4%
GDP : $13.13 trillion
GDP per capita : $44k
population : 299,811,596

[B]Europe:[/B]

Unemployment : 8.8%
GDP : $12.82 trillion(US)
GDP per capita : $29k(US)
[B]population : 710,000,000[/B]

In other words, Europe has more than twice as many peoiple than the United States yet we have more money....

the average American has 2x more money than the average Euro

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States[/url]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Europe[/url]

[QUOTE=orfeomorfeo-ita]this interesting, but you're forgetting an important thing. 32 football teams represent the whole NFL, and almost the whole worldly played american football.

The first 20 football teams in the world are far from being even a slight part of "all the soccer in the world", obviously from the popularity point of view, but als the economical.
To explain what I'm talkin about, I'll tell you how big is the soccer world in Italy only. You can compare it to US. Football.
Each team has an average of 22 players (to help you make the comparison)

Serie A (the first division) is a 20 teams division
Serie B counts 24 teams
Serie C is divided in 5 groups, each of 20 teams
Serie D is divided in.. I think something like 10 groups, each of about 20 teams

These are the national leagues
Each player of each team in each of this groups can live with what he earns from his play. That's almost 8000 players, in Italy.

Then there's the "half-amateurs".
That's to say, in every region (Italy is divided in 20 regions) has:
Eccellenza (10 groups or something)
Promozione (idem)
1st, 2nd, and 3rd categories, eache of some groups.
The teams in this categories are from half professional to "let's catch up with the bar mates and play soccer against other people"
Even so, even the worse of this teams, the one you could build up with your friends to have something to do 3 nights a week, has so much money to waste (something like 10'000 euros every year) that I'm embarassed to say it.

This should explain what I was meaning. US football is super-hyped, filled with money to the bone, but this is (also) because almost the whole economical and social attention of a half continent is directed towards 32 teams.[/QUOTE]

He's comparing the leagues! Not every single soccer team in the world versus an extremely small portion (yet well marketed) of the world's football teams.

[QUOTE=-primetime-]wtf??

so ALL of Europe is rich???

obviously there are poor parts of Europe...

but since you asked me to back it up alright....let us compare Europe to the Untited States

[B]United States:[/B]

Unemployment : 4.4%
GDP : $13.13 trillion
GDP per capita : $44k
population : 299,811,596

[B]Europe:[/B]

Unemployment : 8.8%
GDP : $12.82 trillion(US)
GDP per capita : $29k(US)
[B]population : 710,000,000[/B]

In other words, Europe has more than twice as many peoiple than the United States yet we have more money....

the average American has 2x more money than the average Euro

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States[/url]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Europe[/url][/QUOTE]

ok...does that prove they are poor?