he's listed 6'10, 243 lbs. but now with all the draft measurements coming out im starting to second guess his height. looks like he could be a little bit smaller. am i just thinking about it too much because beasley measured at 6'7"???
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he's listed 6'10, 243 lbs. but now with all the draft measurements coming out im starting to second guess his height. looks like he could be a little bit smaller. am i just thinking about it too much because beasley measured at 6'7"???
I'd say he's close to 6'9. He's a beast though, very strong, athletic, and hard nosed. I became more and more a fan of his this year.
Probably around 6'8"
[QUOTE=VCMVP1551]Probably around 6'8"[/QUOTE]
thats what i'm thinking now. it doesn't matter though. dude can ball
I've heard 6'6 1/2.
And most sites list Griffin at 6'9.
outhustles EVERYONE tho, will be a monster pro
[QUOTE=Interminator]I've heard 6'6 1/2.
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Damn...where did you hear that. That would be horrible for his draft stock because unlike Beasley he couldn't spend a lot of minutes at SF in the NBA.
Dont buy that 6'6 1/2 crap. Dude is 6'8, listed at 6'9.
it doesnt matter how tall he is. He's good isnt he? If your 6"10 does your team start out with more points then 0? throw those measurements out the window once the game starts
If it didn't matter, they wouldn't measure them. No, you won't start out with more points if you're taller. But once the game starts, they're damn sure easier to come by as a power forward if you're 6'10" and not 6'7".
If height didn't matter, there's a ****load of undersized college stars who would've played in the NBA. If height didn't matter, Antonio Gates never would have worn an NFL uniform.
[QUOTE=TheGame414]If it didn't matter, they wouldn't measure them. No, you won't start out with more points if you're taller. But once the game starts, they're damn sure easier to come by as a power forward if you're 6'10" and not 6'7".
If height didn't matter, there's a ****load of undersized college stars who would've played in the NBA. If height didn't matter, Antonio Gates never would have worn an NFL uniform.[/QUOTE]
Try telling that to Barkley who was what, 6"5?
Danny Fortson who is what, 6"6?
Skill beats height any day of the week. Griffin has the strength and the skills to be a great player in the NBA...but no way in hell is he 6'9", I am pretty sure he is about the same height as Beasley if not a little shorter. 6'8" with shoes is fair.
Height doesn't mean sh!t when you can do this...
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugGOjUwlCY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugGOjUwlCY[/URL]
Straight blasted Derrick Rose
He seems around 6'8 to me. Anyway, while height is obviously important, I think it's overvalued. The real end-all-be-all, for me, is standing reach.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]He seems around 6'8 to me. Anyway, while height is obviously important, I think it's overvalued. The real end-all-be-all, for me, is standing reach.[/QUOTE]
Standing reach is good. I like looking at wingspan too because usually it doesn't have much to do with standing reach (some people just have long necks). But can anybody explain to me what they actually do during the lane agility drill?
[quote=Posterize246]Standing reach is good. I like looking at wingspan too because usually it doesn't have much to do with standing reach (some people just have long necks). But can anybody explain to me what they actually do during the lane agility drill?[/quote]
I think the lane drill consists of starting on the baseline (or FT line, doesn't matter), and then there being 6 cones along the lane, one at each corner of the lane, then one on either side of the mid-way point. You do the side to side feet sliding defensive principle along the lane, bending over to touch each cone, and it's up and down the lane, not just one way. I think I remember seeing some videos of guys doing it, could be wrong.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]I think the lane drill consists of starting on the baseline (or FT line, doesn't matter), and then there being 6 cones along the lane, one at each corner of the lane, then one on either side of the mid-way point. You do the side to side feet sliding defensive principle along the lane, bending over to touch each cone, and it's up and down the lane, not just one way. I think I remember seeing some videos of guys doing it, could be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Ohhh yeah i've seen videos of that just didn't know that was the name of it.
[QUOTE=lukeridnour08]Try telling that to Barkley who was what, 6"5?
Danny Fortson who is what, 6"6?[/QUOTE]Congrats, you found the exceptions that prove the rule.
I never said every single great power forward is 6'9"-6'11".
But most are.
Charles Barkley compensated for his lack of height with several things:
-Hall of Fame ability.
-Weighing as much, or more, than most of his much taller counterparts, while maintaining excellent athleticism.
-Being able to play either forward spot.
Undersized power forwards can find a spot in the league. But it's usually not a starring role. If Blake Griffin is 6'10", he has a much better chance at being a star than if he's 6'7 1/2".
[QUOTE=KaptnKirk12]Skill beats height any day of the week.[/quote]And a skilled 6'10" guy will usually beat a skilled 6'8" guy.
You're creating a false dichotomy here. No one's arguing "skill v. height." You usually need both.
The point is, Blake Griffin is a straight-up power forward. He doesn't have the perimeter game Beasley has. Beasley is worth a top-3 pick in a good draft no matter how tall he actually is, because even if he doesn't have the size to be a low-post anchor he is skilled enough to be a Melo-like small forward.
Blake Griffin's size is more important. He won't be able to play small forward. As I said, he's flat-out a 4. That's it. He'll need to make drastic developments in his game, particularly in his jump shot, if he isn't close to 6'10", like David West, Carlos Boozer and Elton Brand all did.
I'm not saying he can't. I'm just saying he has to do it.
[quote]Griffin has the strength and the skills to be a great player in the NBA...[/quote]
[quote]Height doesn't mean sh!t when you can do this...[/quote]It matters when you're matched up with Tim Duncan, Amare Stoudemire or Dirk Nowitzki.
It matters when you're guarding NBA power forwards and centers on a nightly basis.
Again, quit creating this false dichotomy. If size didn't matter, they wouldn't measure them. It sounds nice and wonderful to say it doesn't matter, that skill is the only thing that matters.
It's just not true.
If you only have size, you damn well better know how to use it. If you only have skill, you damn well better have a helluva lot of it to overcome your lack of size.
If you're a Top 5 pick in the NBA Draft, you should have both. And yes, I realize there are exceptions to this. I realize there have been undersized players picked very high. In most cases, they were extraordinarily skilled and it truly didn't matter how big they were.
What you need to convince me of is that Blake Griffin is so overwhelmingly skilled that it doesn't matter if he's 6'7", 6'8" or 6'10". And I'm not convinced of that. He'd be a Top 5 pick in [i]this[/i] draft if he was.
just something to add...
griffin beat beasley in the '07 mcdonalds dunk contest
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPzYqv3H3mE&feature=related[/url]
not that it really means anything though
[QUOTE=KaptnKirk12]Skill beats height any day of the week. Griffin has the strength and the skills to be a great player in the NBA...but no way in hell is he 6'9", I am pretty sure he is about the same height as Beasley if not a little shorter. 6'8" with shoes is fair.
Height doesn't mean sh!t when you can do this...
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugGOjUwlCY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugGOjUwlCY[/URL]
Straight blasted Derrick Rose[/QUOTE]
Straight fouled Derrick Rose.
[QUOTE=lukeridnour08]Try telling that to Barkley who was what, 6"5?
Danny Fortson who is what, 6"6?[/QUOTE]
Barkley always claimed various heights under 6'5'....I've heard him say 6'4", 6'4 1/2", 6'4 3/4" ect. Barkley was really a legit 6'6" though that's why his mugshot showed him at 6'7"/6'8" in shoes and that's also why he's barely shorter than Magic Johnson's who is atleast 6'7".
Fortson measured 6-7 1/4 at the 1997 pre-draft camp and he didn't exactly have a long great career.
[QUOTE=VCMVP1551]Barkley always claimed various heights under 6'5'....I've heard him say 6'4", 6'4 1/2", 6'4 3/4" ect. Barkley was really a legit 6'6" though that's why his mugshot showed him at 6'7"/6'8" in shoes and that's also why he's barely shorter than Magic Johnson's who is atleast 6'7".
Fortson measured 6-7 1/4 at the 1997 pre-draft camp and he didn't exactly have a long great career.[/QUOTE]
10 Years isn't a long career by NBA standards:rolleyes:
Somebody pull up a picture of Beasley guarding Michael Beasley last year,because when I saw that game I could've swore Griffin looked about the same height as Beasley.
You cant tell players actual height watching them on TV.
[QUOTE=GOBB]You cant tell players actual height watching them on TV.[/QUOTE]
You certainly can project them.
[QUOTE=Interminator]10 Years isn't a long career by NBA standards:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
The first 5 of those he averaged 25.8 mpg. The last 5 he averaged 12.9 mpg. So no, I wouldn't put as someone who had a long, great career.
[QUOTE]Charles Barkley compensated for his lack of height with several things:
-Hall of Fame ability.
-Weighing as much, or more, than most of his much taller counterparts, while maintaining excellent athleticism.
-Being able to play either forward spot.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point. Blake can ball, he's legit.
On the dunk contest, photo, listed heights, Serge Ibaka is 6'10", Blake Griffin is 6'10", Dezon 6'7", Mcgee 7'0"
However Blake looks shorter than Serge Ibaka. Hmmm....