What will Baron Davis do now with Brand joining Sixers? Join Clips still, back out?

and has only VERBALLY agreed to join the Clippers, can he back out now that Brand is going to Philly?

from my understanding a verbal contract is as good as signing a contract...same as a handshake..once u agree...u agree.

One can flip around and say "since Elton hasn't signed with Philly yet, can he still go elsewhere or go back to LA".

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]from my understanding a verbal contract is as good as signing a contract...same as a handshake..once u agree...u agree.[/QUOTE]

Didn't mean crap from Boozer.

[QUOTE=ElPigto]Didn't mean crap from Boozer.[/QUOTE]

Boozer was getting lowballed, Davis isn't.

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]from my understanding a verbal contract is as good as signing a contract...same as a handshake..once u agree...u agree.[/QUOTE]

Depends on whether the "verbal agreement" was under the assumption that Brand was resigned, which it almost certainly was.

i think baron wants to be a clipper with or without brand.

[QUOTE=qrich]One can flip around and say "since Elton hasn't signed with Philly yet, can he still go elsewhere or go back to LA".[/QUOTE]
They can...but Baron Davis was signing with LAC in the hope that he'd play with Brand. So I don't think it works both ways

i hope somebody posts what b diddy thinks of all this.

He chose the wrong team in LA to sign with now that Brand is probably gone.

He only made a verbal commitment to join the clippers he could go back on his word and sign to another team?

I didn't think he would have to sign since nothing can be made official. Maybe I'm wrong. Just thought it was like when a college player commits to a school, but it doesn't mean anything until he signs his letter of intent.

clippers can still get somebody, whether its randolph, okafor, smith, or resigning maggette. baron will not back out of the deal.

sorry didnt see other thread

[QUOTE=ElPigto]Didn't mean crap from Boozer.[/QUOTE]
heres the deal that people seem to forget/ignore. if there was a verbal agreement or understanding between booz and cleveland, it would have violated the cba and been considered collusion. a verbal agreement aint shi except among gentleman. ya falkin pantywaisted gentleman. straight up goon!

Legally: yes he can. The NBA specifically prohibits any kind of [B]binding [/B]contract, writen or otherwise, until July 9th. His rep might take a hit, but it is well within the rules for him to sign with anyone he wants.

[QUOTE=iggy>]clippers can still get somebody, whether its randolph, okafor, smith, or resigning maggette. baron will not back out of the deal.[/QUOTE]
yep. he dont wanna play for donnie "beercan" nelson

[QUOTE=iggy>]clippers can still get somebody, whether its randolph, okafor, smith, or resigning maggette. baron will not back out of the deal.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't take anyone off that list unless you can mesh Randolph and Okafor. I'd rather sign minimum guys then try to make a splash next offseason while adding Jennings this summer. I'd even let Davis go elsewhere if he wants

Edit: I just find it ironic we could have had Emeka Okafor or Dwight Howard but chose to trade down for Shaun Livingston instead.

This is gonna be interesting, I can't imagine Baron will stay if this is true, he has no reason to. And if that's true, does GS take him back?

I don't understand the problem. If you were to accept a job offer from a company, then received an offer from another company before your start date, that would be perfectly acceptable. A contract hasn't been signed. Until Davis' pen touches the paper, he's a free agent.

[QUOTE]I don't understand the problem. If you were to accept a job offer from a company, then received an offer from another company before your start date, that would be perfectly acceptable. A contract hasn't been signed. Until Davis' pen touches the paper, he's a free agent.[/QUOTE]

take a couple business classes please...not saying it applies to this situation because it's different with the nba's rules for when teams can agree to terms with players. to me this is a unique situation.

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]take a couple business classes please...not saying it applies to this situation because it's different with the nba's rules for when teams can agree to terms with players. to me this is a unique situation.[/QUOTE]


Baron had prelimary discussions with the Clippers, not a verbal contact. The CBA specifically prohibits any closure of negotiations before July 9th. Baron had a conversation with the Clips, not a contract...of any sort.

[QUOTE=Valliant13][B]Baron had prelimary discussions with the Clippers, not a verbal contact[/B]. The CBA specifically prohibits any closure of negotiations before July 9th. Baron had a conversation with the Clips, not a contract...of any sort.[/QUOTE]

he had a verbal agreement.

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]he had a verbal agreement.[/QUOTE]

But not a legally binding one...since that is specially not allowed under the CBA.

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]take a couple business classes please...not saying it applies to this situation because it's different with the nba's rules for when teams can agree to terms with players. to me this is a unique situation.[/QUOTE]

I've reneged on job offers before and didn't feel bad about it. Until I start working, I'm not an official employee yet.

[QUOTE=Valliant13]But not a legally binding one...since that is specially not allowed under the CBA.[/QUOTE]

hey i'm not disagreeing with you. just saying...i hope b diddy bounces and the clipps get screwed again.

[QUOTE=Mateo]I've reneged on job offers before and didn't feel bad about it. Until I start working, I'm not an official employee yet.[/QUOTE]

ok.

[QUOTE=qrich]Boozer was getting lowballed, Davis isn't.[/QUOTE]

That's not the point I'm trying to get across. My point is that there have been verbal agreements in the past and they didn't exactly turn out like they were suppose to.

Remember John Salmons. Dude was suppose to play for the Raptors, yet he said God didn't want him there and suddenly he is a King although he had a verbal agreement.

Baron would have no where else to go, he doesn't want to play in GSW cuz of Nelson and Clippers were the only other team stepping up. He has no choice, he is ****ed... Karma is a ***** Baron

[QUOTE=baseketball4life]Baron would have no where else to go, he doesn't want to play in GSW cuz of Nelson and Clippers were the only other team stepping up. He has no choice, he is ****ed... Karma is a ***** Baron[/QUOTE]
Idt the warriors could afford him anymore with maggette going there anyway. But oh well. I feel bad for Baron if he really did agree to the contract because of Brand

[QUOTE=ElPigto]That's not the point I'm trying to get across. My point is that there have been verbal agreements in the past and they didn't exactly turn out like they were suppose to.

Remember John Salmons. Dude was suppose to play for the Raptors, yet he said God didn't want him there and suddenly he is a King although he had a verbal agreement.[/QUOTE]

Oh ok, got you. You're right, and I don't blame Baron for doing it, if he does, but I think he wants to play in LA

Verbal agreements don't mean **** till you sign the piece of paper. Go ask Eric Gordon.

Anyone following college basketball knows that decommitting is part of the game. I doubt it's any different in the NBA.

[QUOTE=qrich]Oh ok, got you. You're right, and I don't blame Baron for doing it, if he does, but I think he wants to play in LA[/QUOTE]

Well, Baron won't really have any money offers elsewhere. The Warriors are set to offer Maggette 50M, Elton is going to the Sixers. No one has cap space that is going to try to lure Baron away anymore.

Baron is stuck in LA, too bad things didn't turn out how they were suppose to be.

The only thing that can free Davis now is if in the verbal agreement it was stated that Elton Brand had to resign or he could go elsewhere...

[QUOTE=wang4three]Verbal agreements don't mean **** till you sign the piece of paper. Go ask Eric Gordon.

Anyone following college basketball knows that decommitting is part of the game. I doubt it's any different in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
Exactly what I said

verbal agreement is like a commitment
signing the contract is the letter of intent

[QUOTE=ElPigto]Well, Baron won't really have any money offers elsewhere. The Warriors are set to offer Maggette 50M, Elton is going to the Sixers. No one has cap space that is going to try to lure Baron away anymore.

Baron is stuck in LA, too bad things didn't turn out how they were suppose to be.[/QUOTE]

Well, if he thinks he can remain healthy, he could sign for the MLE somewhere for one season then get a big contract next season

I have a feeling there is going to be at least one more big twist in this story. Maybe a last minute sign and trade.

[QUOTE=Valliant13]I have a feeling there is going to be at least one more big twist in this story. Maybe a last minute sign and trade.[/QUOTE]

Could happen, but won't be much of a big twist. It might be Elton S&T'd for the Wolves 2nd rounder which Phila acquired or Jason Smith or something, but won't be anything worth ****, at least to the Clippers

[QUOTE=qrich]Well, if he thinks he can remain healthy, he could sign for the MLE somewhere for one season then get a big contract next season[/QUOTE]

The odds of that happening are slim. Regardless of how hard you train and try to keep away from injury, there will always be the risk of injury. From a business standpoint, you take the money the Clippers are giving you and never look back. It's just financially smart, you don't put yourself in a vulnerable position unless you REALLY REALLY want to win. Honestly, the way I would see it, I can win later in life I'll make the money now while I'm still young.

If I were Baron i'd say fucc the verbal agreement. But he is from LA so he might have more incentive.