I think Garnett was better. Lets discuss!
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I think Garnett was better. Lets discuss!
Garnett. Easily.
prime shaq + prime garnett = holy sh!t
The truth is, every knowledgable basketball fan knows Garnett was better than Kobe Bryant, and they would draft Garnett ahead of Kobe, but the same people put Kobe is the top 5 in league history while Garnett is barely a top 30 player ever. This is just frustrating.
Kobe because he thinks he is :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=DCL]prime shaq + prime garnett = holy sh!t[/QUOTE]
10 rings or so? :cheers:
[QUOTE=Harison]10 rings or so? :cheers:[/QUOTE]
Sure, that team would have the best regular season record. I'll take a young buck Kobe, and MVP candidate era Jason Kidd and some serviceable players over them in a playoff series though. Last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter Shaq still needs a true dribbling closer to get him over the hump. He'll do the heavy lifting for 9/10th of the time, but he needs the right 1/10th player, and that is not Garnett!
You give prime kobe pau gasol and u almost get a 3 peat. :bowdown: ill take kobe easily
[QUOTE=sundizz]Sure, that team would have the best regular season record. I'll take a young buck Kobe, and MVP candidate era Jason Kidd and some serviceable players over them in a playoff series though. Last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter Shaq still needs a true dribbling closer to get him over the hump. He'll do the heavy lifting for 9/10th of the time, but he needs the right 1/10th player, and that is not Garnett![/QUOTE]You're right about Shaq needing closers, but Kobe would not work with another ball-dominant player. Especially JKidd who couldn't be a spot-up shooter at the time.
If I were to draft Garnett or Kobe right now, knowing how their careers will pan out, I take the rarer talent in Garnett 10/10. Not saying prime Kobe is easily replacable, but a scorer wing is MUCH easier to find than a ~22/13/5 sf/pf/c 7 footer who is an elite defender in today's game.
KG.
[QUOTE=christian1923]You give prime kobe pau gasol and u almost get a 3 peat. :bowdown: ill take kobe easily[/QUOTE]
The ony reason the Lakers even won in 09 was because of KG's injury. Before he went down, The Celtics were far and way the best team in the league and better than the 08 Celtics team. They took that fool Magic team 7 games without their best player.
Ive always thought that Garnett was better than Kobe, not Boston KG, but Minnesota KG i thought was a much better all around player.
2006-2008 Kobe was better than KG EVER was.
Both are 1st round fodder without stacked teams
idgaf how good all around kg was. he was never even close to being as good a scorer as mamba. anyone that think this is even close is a retard.
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[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]2006-2008 Kobe was better than KG EVER was.[/QUOTE]
03 and 04 KG was pretty damn good...
[QUOTE=Rysio]idgaf how good all around kg was. he was never even close to being as good a scorer as mamba. anyone that think this is even close is a retard.[/QUOTE]
That's the problem. Only judging someone based on scoring potential.
Prime KG all day long.
Well considering that they both played at tthe same time during their primes, and Kobe was considered a better player throughout the 2000's...
i don't see how it's a discussion :confusedshrug:
KG's prime was in the 2000's.
Kobe was voted the best player of the decade.
Kobe.
I see no argument for KG. kobe vs Tim Duncan is more of an actual discussion.
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]2006-2008 Kobe was better than KG EVER was.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much my thoughts. KG was a beast, don't get me wrong. But he's built as a super Pippen type player. If Kobe had Gasol in 2006 and 2007, I'm pretty confident he gets to the WCF in each of those seasons.
:facepalm at this thread
Only Prime Jordan, KAJ and Magic has an argument over Prime Kobe.. Facts!
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]2006-2008 Kobe was better than KG EVER was.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
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[QUOTE=christian1923]I see no argument for KG. kobe vs Tim Duncan is more of an actual discussion.[/QUOTE]
TD was better than both KG and Kobe
Garnett obviously a better player than Kobe ever was. Resum
[QUOTE=NumberSix]Garnett obviously a better player than Kobe ever was. Resum
Prime Garnett wasn't able to make it out of the first round for the most part. I get that he was all alone, but still.
Legacy wise, Kobe.
Prime wise, Kobe.
EVERYTHING wise, Kobe.
[QUOTE=Vertical-24]I disagree entirely. Although I will call it debatable to be fair, I think Kobe was the actual better all-around player. Kobe from 2006-2008 was one of the greatest players i've ever seen. As comparable to Jordan as you can get. He could do it all, and do it all with ease. Particularly scoring, which he did in his sleep.
Better scorer? Prime Kobe by a landslide. Defense? I'll give that to Garnett, though Kobe was an incredible man-to-man. Rebounding? Favorable to the big man. Playmaking? Kobe. Athleticism? Kobe. And when it comes to the Post, Kobe is right up there. Defense/Rebounding is all Garnett has over him.
Garnett is great and in his prime was amazing. But Kobe was astonishing.[/QUOTE]
Garnett is closer to Kobe offensively than Kobe is in comparison to KG's defense. KG anchored all time great defenses and I'm not sure if Kobe has done the same equivalent on the offensive side of the ball. Although some of the greatest offenses in league history have not really been title contending type teams so I'm not sure how relevant that is to the discussion.
[QUOTE=The Choken One]Prime Garnett wasn't able to make it out of the first round for the most part. I get that he was all alone, but still.
Legacy wise, Kobe.
Prime wise, Kobe.
EVERYTHING wise, Kobe.[/QUOTE]
When Kobe was alone he wasn't getting his team out of the first round too.
[QUOTE=MMM]When Kobe was alone he wasn't getting his team out of the first round too.[/QUOTE]
Agree. Bad argument.
[QUOTE=Vertical-24]Agree. Bad argument.[/QUOTE]
Kobe has a greater legacy no doubt. While I don't like playing the what if game I do wonder how a KG/Shaq duo would work. Someone mentioned the lack of closers but when you have such a dominant front court i think you could cobble up enough role playing shooters to hit big shots, much like how those laker teams enjoyed.
close but I take kobe
I'm taking the guy who actually EARNED his MVP and 12 all-defensive team nominations.
Loyalty, defense, and a versatile player that didn't exist before he got into the league.
[QUOTE=MMM]Kobe has a greater legacy no doubt. While I don't like playing the what if game I do wonder how a KG/Shaq duo would work. Someone mentioned the lack of closers but when you have such a dominant front court i think you could cobble up enough role playing shooters to hit big shots, much like how those laker teams enjoyed.[/QUOTE]
KG was crazy athletic back then. In his younger days he was more of a sf/pf hybrid or "tweener" but without the stigma that comes with that term as he was big enough to defend PF's and quick enough to guard sf's because he was so damn athletic. A lot of people forget how athletic he was because the Wolves were never on national television all that much for the most part because they didn't win that much. In other words I could see a Shaq and KG duo working because KG doesn't really have to be down in the post to be effective in his younger days.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Both are 1st round fodder without stacked teams[/QUOTE]
so they are Michael Jordan level?
[QUOTE=MMM]Garnett is closer to Kobe offensively than Kobe is in comparison to KG's defense. KG anchored all time great defenses and [B]I'm not sure if Kobe has done the same equivalent on the offensive side of the ball[/B]. Although some of the greatest offenses in league history have not really been title contending type teams so I'm not sure how relevant that is to the discussion.[/QUOTE]
He has. From 2006 to 2008 (pre Gasol) the Lakers were top 10 in both scoring and offensive rating despite not having any consistent, reliable players on offense outside of Kobe. And in much of 2006 and 2007, the Lakers didn't run the triangle as much because Phil told Kobe he needed to shoot more to carry the Lakers. It was pretty much Kobe freelancing on offense (think LeBron in Cleveland). Considering the insane numbers he had to put up just for the Lakers to be playoff contenders I think it's safe to say he was elite in anchoring an offense. Scoring/Playmaking/Drawing Doubles. Everything.
KG is far superior to Kobe, who is the most overrated bball player of all time.