And you think he's messing with MJ?.. :whatever:
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And you think he's messing with MJ?.. :whatever:
No surprise
Guard position in the 90's were as brittle as Reggie Millers arms
Compare that to the Forwards of today, 10-15 all-stars deep that can actually play both ways
You really don't want to go list for list in this category :oldlol:
So? MJ hasnt been All-Defense in 22 years :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=scuzzy;14165751]No surprise
Guard position was in the 90's was as brittle as Reggie Millers arms and only one way players
Now compare that to the Forwards of today, 10-15 all-stars deep that can actually play both ways[/QUOTE]
The fact that anorexic 10 year old girl body Reggie Miller was Jordan's big competition in the 90's is a big strike against Jordan.
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway;14165753]So? MJ hasnt been All-Defense in 22 years :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Gotem
[QUOTE=BigtimeNBAFan;14165754]The fact that anorexic 10 year old girl body Reggie Miller was Jordan's big competition in the 90's is a big strike against Jordan.[/QUOTE]
A 6'7" Curry except Miller could average a lot more ppg at only 5 threes per game - Curry was a 19 ppg scorer for three straight years when he took 5 threes a game, and only increased his ppg when the league offensive strategy became a 3-pt contest, which caused his volume to skyrocket
Miller would see a similar increase in this era of threes.. he would take 11 per game or more.. the spacing would make his head fakes the deadliest in the game on the catch (defenders desperate and late getting to him)
The fact that there was 5 guys in their mid-30's making All-Defensive teams in 1998 reminds us all how weak that era was
Out of the 10 players from 1st and 2nd team, only two were champions (Scottie, Ordan) :oldlol:
In prior eras, it was harder for perimeter players to get defensive recognition because the offense occurred inside where bigs got the credit.
Otoh, today's offensive possessions occur on the perimeter, so perimeter players are recognized much easier.. guys that are recognized for defense today might've been unheard of in prior eras.
DPOY Jordan would average 6 steals per game in today's era of perimeter possessions
And of course great athletes like Augmon, Lewis, Drexler, Finley, Elliot, Kemp - anyone of them could turn out to be great defenders in today's high pnr game
:lol at MJ stans trying to make Miller into Curry. Curry is a 2x MVP. Miller wasn't better than MJ, Drexler, Richmond, and Dumars at SG in his own era when all were in their primes. He was 5th best at his position.
Reggie Miller was Klay without the defense. Klay isn't Curry.
[QUOTE]Jordan would average 6 steals per game in today's era of perimeter possessions[/QUOTE]
Double the steals and I am sure double the points. MJ averaging 70+ today, right, right?
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14165770]:lol at MJ stans trying to make Miller into Curry. Curry is a 2x MVP. Miller wasn't better than MJ, Drexler, Richmond, and Dumars at SG in his own era when all were in their primes. He was 5th best at his position.
Reggie Miller was Klay without the defense. Klay isn't Curry.
Double the steals and I am sure double the points. MJ averaging 70+ today, right, right?[/QUOTE]
Dumbass - Curry wasn't shit before today's 3-point offense took hold - he was a 19 ppg scorer for three straight years at 5 threes a game, and only increased his ppg when the league offensive strategy became a 3-pt contest (which caused his volume to skyrocket)
Miller would see a similar increase in this era of threes.. he would take 11 per game or more.. the spacing would make his head fakes the deadliest in the game on the catch (defenders desperate and late getting to him)
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14165770]:lol at MJ stans trying to make Miller into Curry. Curry is a 2x MVP. Miller wasn't better than MJ, Drexler, Richmond, and Dumars at SG in his own era when all were in their primes. He was 5th best at his position.
Reggie Miller was Klay without the defense. Klay isn't Curry.
Double the steals and I am sure double the points. MJ averaging 70+ today, right, right?[/QUOTE]
Yeah that was a crazy clapback. The truth is Miller has nothing on Curry. Curry is a 2x MVP who actually won titles and was actually a superstar 3 point shooter. Reggie Miller's best 3 point season was he made 229. To put that in perspective Steph Curry has 5 of the top 10 3 point shooting seasons in nba history and they were all more than Miller's best season.
[QUOTE=scuzzy;14165751]No surprise
Guard position in the 90's were as brittle as Reggie Millers arms
Compare that to the Forwards of today, 10-15 all-stars deep that can actually play both ways
You really don't want to go list for list in this category :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol:
op shoook
[QUOTE=3ball;14165771]Dumbass - Curry wasn't shit before today's 3-point offense took hold - he was a 19 ppg scorer for three straight years at 5 threes a game, and only increased his ppg when the league offensive strategy became a 3-pt contest (which caused his volume to skyrocket)
Miller would see a similar increase in this era of threes.. he would take 11 per game or more.. the spacing would make his head fakes the deadliest in the game on the catch (defenders desperate and late getting to him)[/QUOTE]
No he wouldn't. He is not in Curry's league. Sorry the 90's were crap. Pretty embarrassing for Jordan. There are Jr high girls with anorexia that have bigger muscles than Reggie Miller.
[QUOTE=3ball;14165768]In prior eras, it was harder for perimeter players to get defensive recognition because the offense occurred inside where bigs got the credit.
Otoh, today's offensive possessions occur on the perimeter, so perimeter players are recognized much easier.. guys that are recognized for defense today might've been unheard of in prior eras.
DPOY Jordan would average 6 steals per game in today's era of perimeter possessions
And of course great athletes like Augmon, Lewis, Drexler, Finley, Elliot, Kemp - anyone of them could turn out to be great defenders in today's high pnr game[/QUOTE]
mike was averaging his steals against
craig ehlo
john starks
jeff hornacek
mitch richmond
he isnt getting those steals on modern era sg sorry bruh :oldlol: :roll:
[QUOTE=BigtimeNBAFan;14165780]No he wouldn't. He is not in Curry's league. Sorry the 90's were crap. Pretty embarrassing for Jordan. There are Jr high girls with anorexia that have bigger muscles than Reggie Miller.[/QUOTE]
think about this
jimmy butler, a player that is probably top...? 15 in this era we can say? put up better finals performance then any player mike faced in 6 finals
a top 15 player in 2020 would be top 2 in the 90s