Rameek makes a great point. To add to that, a lot of those guys were brought in because of their name and not necessarily because they fit what we had talent wise.
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Rameek makes a great point. To add to that, a lot of those guys were brought in because of their name and not necessarily because they fit what we had talent wise.
[QUOTE=franchize]Rameek makes a great point. To add to that, a lot of those guys were brought in because of their name and not necessarily because they fit what we had talent wise.[/QUOTE]
[B]They havent acquired any players thats really good or even have a significant name.[/B]
[B]Tim Legler nailed it on Basketball Tonight:
The Knicks have too many one way players.
The team has no ball movement.[/B]
[QUOTE=Rameek][B]Tim Legler nailed it on Basketball Tonight:
The Knicks have too many one way players.
The team has no ball movement.[/B][/QUOTE]
Oh the shit I've been saying for years? lol Legler is a douche. Capt Obvious. His "expertise" and "analysis" let him figure that out all by himself? We haven't had ball movement in years. Our offense is more like Bowel Movement. If we moved as much as we do on defense (with all the unnecessary switching) we'd be a stellar offensive team lol
[B]D'Antoni had ball movement[/B]
[QUOTE=franchize]Oh the shit I've been saying for years? lol Legler is a douche. Capt Obvious. His "expertise" and "analysis" let him figure that out all by himself? We haven't had ball movement in years. Our offense is more like Bowel Movement. If we moved as much as we do on defense (with all the unnecessary switching) we'd be a stellar offensive team lol[/QUOTE]
[B]Has anyone noticed the line up changes that Woodson has implemented?
Has been to your satisfaction?[/B]
[QUOTE=Rameek][B]D'Antoni had ball movement[/B][/QUOTE]
No D'Antoni had 7 seconds or less lol Which is more like someone hurry up and shoot.
[QUOTE=franchize]No D'Antoni had 7 seconds or less lol Which is more like someone hurry up and shoot.[/QUOTE]
[B]Going to disagree with that. The ball moved to an open shot long or short shot.[/B]
How is ball movement going to happen when you play such unbalanced lineups and have no structure?
Wood sons plan is actually to surround Carmelo with as many guys who can't shoot or score and have melo ISO from the 3 point line. He has it completely backwards and building the rotation around Felton and chandler has gotten enough of a chance.
Only a complete idiot would want his best players to fit around the role players.
[QUOTE=el gringos]How is ball movement going to happen when you play such unbalanced lineups and have no structure?
Wood sons plan is actually to surround Carmelo with as many guys who can't shoot or score and have melo ISO from the 3 point line. He has it completely backwards and building the rotation around Felton and chandler has gotten enough of a chance.
Only a complete idiot would want his best players to fit around the role players.[/QUOTE]
[B]You only seem to think offensively but you have to account for the other part of the game like defense and rebounding. It isnt easy with the group of players they have to find a balance on both sides of the ball.[/B]
[QUOTE=Rameek][B]You only seem to think offensively but you have to account for the other part of the game like defense and rebounding. It isnt easy with the group of players they have to find a balance on both sides of the ball.[/B][/QUOTE]
Nope. They are all capable of defending. The abilities you have to balance are offensive.
[QUOTE=el gringos]Nope. They are all capable of defending. The abilities you have to balance are offensive.[/QUOTE]
[B]Capable and willing participant is totally different. That is why this team struggles, isnt consistent and is way below .500. They are not willing participants to defend or rebound.
You seem to have a D'Antoni philosophy going which isnt bad but doesnt lead to championships. Solve offensive problems when the issue is defense and rebounding.[/B]
Not having an interim on the bench make firing the head coach nearly impossible.
No respectable coach would come in mid season
[QUOTE=knickscity]Not having an interim on the bench make firing the head coach nearly impossible.
No respectable coach would come in mid season[/QUOTE]
[B]Just to piggy back on what you said I'll quote my response to Clutch from the other day.[/B]
[QUOTE=Rameek][B]The ramifications for such a short sighted move could be catastrophic dealing with the Melo situation.
What legitimate coach would want to come in the middle of a season with no training camp or experience with the players?
The coach will have to teach their own philosophy and ideas and expectations.
Scrap whatever system that was run by the previous regime and install their own.
Doing all this on the fly. Thats why usually the interim comes from within. Who do the Knicks have to fill the role. Herb Williams.... Geez
The Knicks Front Office is one of the worse in the league with no appeal to anyone in legit coaching circles. Not only the ridiculous infrastructure but the high turnover rate of President/GM/Coaches roster personnel.
I could keep going on and on why its not or should not happen. Teams that are not going anywhere usually get away with such brain dead moves because they are a lottery team so if they are losing they expect to continue to fail for a pick (a tank move). The Knicks dont have this years pick and they want to make sure the Nuggetz dont get a good pick and also make the playoffs in hopes to keep Melo.[/B][/QUOTE]
Alright guys,I understand your reasons for not firing Woodson but I would still fire him.
So what if we take a risk and hire someone who's a complete mystery ? It might pan out and if it doesn't this season is already over. It's better to use this last 30 games as an experiment that could get us something in the future rather than just watch this disaster continue and do nothing.