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Raptors give extension to Andrea Bargnani
[QUOTE]Bargnani's agent, Leon Rose, told ESPN.com on Tuesday night that the Raptors -- who later this week will officially sign Turkoglu away from Orlando -- have reached an agreement in principle on a contract extension for the 7-foot Italian, who was selected No. 1 overall by the Raptors in the 2006 draft.
The deal, according to NBA front-office sources, would span five seasons starting in 2010-11 and earn Bargnani an estimated $50 million.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4312517"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4312517[/URL]
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Re: Raptors give extension to Andrea Bargnani
That is some heavy money for him. Don't think he is nearly worth that yet.
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Bargnani showed some signs of promises during the end of the season under their new HC. :applause: Congrats big fella /Mike Brown :lol
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:wtf: Did I read that correctly?
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With Turkoglu and AB getting big money, it looks like Bosh is on his way out of town.
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Damn 10 Mil a year? He's probably around the 7-9 mil range, but still... Doesn't sound right to give him that much.
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[QUOTE=hawkfan]With Turkoglu and AB getting big money, it looks like Bosh is on his way out of town.[/QUOTE]
Why so? They have bird rights so it's not as if they can't pay him.
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[QUOTE=meh]Why so? They have bird rights so it's not as if they can't pay him.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
Denial.
Get what you can get for Bosh and move on. Look toward any young team with talent and do what you can. GS and OKC sound like good choices. If GS can get off to a good start, maybe trading for Bosh could make them a top-6 team in the West.
Just saying...
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As a Heat fan, I'm glad... put's more pressure on TO to make a playoff run this year.
With Bosh knowing that Turkoglu, Bargnani & Calderon are locked into large contracts, meaning they won't have any free agent options come next offseason, if they can't make the playoffs next season, he's gone.
100% sure about that.
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The guy pretty much averaged 20-7 for when he was a starter last year...discount in my book :rockon:
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He definitely didn't earn it. Colangelo probably gave him that contract on the basis that he thinks Bargnani will improve to the point where he's worth more than that. And Bargnani jumped at that contract because he knows at this point he's not worth that much and who knows if he'll ever make that significant of a leap.
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[QUOTE=plat1numX]The guy pretty much averaged 20-7 for when he was a starter last year...discount in my book :rockon:[/QUOTE]
No he didn't.
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This will be one of those untradeable contracts in a year or two. Now I remember how dumb GM's can be. Don't we see this all the time? How did "Player X" get $10 million a year? Perfect example.
$10 million a year for Bargnani? Only the Toronto homers are happy about this.
"He's so worth it!!!!!" :lol
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[QUOTE=plat1numX]The guy pretty much averaged 20-7 for when he was a starter last year...discount in my book :rockon:[/QUOTE]17.7 PPG/6 RPG/1.3 BPG/45 FG%/42 3pt %/35 MPG
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[QUOTE=FinishHim!]He definitely didn't earn it. Colangelo probably gave him that contract on the basis that he thinks Bargnani will improve to the point where he's worth more than that. And Bargnani jumped at that contract because he knows at this point he's not worth that much and who knows if he'll ever make that significant of a leap.[/QUOTE]
The way he was playing for the second half of the season he definitely earned it. Call it a bargain comparing to what we see in today's contracts.
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[QUOTE=bagelred]This will be one of those untradeable contracts in a year or two. Now I remember how dumb GM's can be. Don't we see this all the time? How did "Player X" get $10 million a year? Perfect example.
$10 million a year for Bargnani? Only the Toronto homers are happy about this.
"He's so worth it!!!!!" :lol[/QUOTE]
You don't live in Canada so you probally only see about 2 raptors game a season. You don't have the right to judge.
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[QUOTE=TMAC-RAPTORS]The way he was playing for the second half of the season he definitely earned it. Call it a bargain comparing to what we see in today's contracts.[/QUOTE]
Half a season shouldn't earn you 50 million bucks over 5 years, but anyways as I said in the same such thread in the Raps forum the going rate for NBA bigs is very high these days so it comes as no surprise and has the potential to be a bargain depending on his continued improvement. But as of now no he has not earned it.
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[QUOTE=Posterize246]No he didn't.[/QUOTE]
Well as starting center he avg 19/6/1.4blks
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Not too bad of a deal on both sides, Bargnani showed signs last year reminds me of a young Dirk and if he turns out to become that then i'm sure Toronto would be happy. Calderon, Hedo & A.B. is a good core to work around, of course there are gunna lose Bosh but if they can pick up a big man with a defensive presence and a scorer at sg within the next few years they could be something to watch in the next few years
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[QUOTE=bagelred]Boy, Raptors have NO EXCUSES now.
$10 million man Bargnani, franchise center Bosh, Turkish sensation Turkoglu, quality PG Calderon.....
WOOOOOOOOOW, that has got to be a top 4 team in the east am i right?????
NO? I guess all that money doesn't buy what it used to........:lol
"He's so worth it!!!!" :lol[/QUOTE]
Who has ever said we would be a top 4 team? Sure, we might be able to get the 6-8 seed in the weak east.
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Bargs is gettin paid.. now he better deliver something... cause hes given little so far..
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[QUOTE=TMAC-RAPTORS]Well as starting center he avg 19/6/1.4blks[/QUOTE]
And adding 45 FG% and shooting 42% from three for a Center. His defence is far developed than most people think. He can defend todays Centers. He does that again next year and i am extremely happy especially for a big man who is only 23 years old. 10 Mil is not that max and i am preety sure if Bargnani got this team like how Bosh got this team after Carter left,all you here would be talking about Bargnani being worth the max.
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[QUOTE=TMAC-RAPTORS]I don't get what you're trying to say... :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
I think he's trying to say: "is this the best the Raptors could do to try to keep Bosh around?"
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[QUOTE=ZeN]Bargs is gettin paid.. now he better deliver something... cause hes given little so far..[/QUOTE]
5 year 50 mill isn't franchise player money... You do know that right?
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Bryan Colangelo again living up to his reputation as a sh*t GM. Hows Jermaine O'Neal working for ya? Oh wait.
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[QUOTE=bokes15]5 year 50 mill isn't franchise player money... You do know that right?[/QUOTE]
You don't pay role players 50 mill either.
If he comes out with another ~16/6 campaign... the Raptors are screwed out of their money.
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[QUOTE=beasted86]You don't pay role players 50 mill either.
If he comes out with another ~16/6 campaign... the Raptors are screwed out of their money.[/QUOTE]
Lakers were paying Odom, Gasol, and Bynum considerably more than that....
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[QUOTE=bokes15]5 year 50 mill isn't franchise player money... You do know that right?[/QUOTE]
Oh I am fully aware..
But Im also aware that in the past few years bargs has only delivered pockets of good games.. and they are only called good because of how awful he usually is..
He has potential, but realistically he does deserve to make 10 mil a year.. even if its not star money..
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[QUOTE=bokes15]Lakers were paying Odom, Gasol, and Bynum considerably more than that....[/QUOTE]
First off... Gasol is not a role player...
Secondly... They never signed Odom to that contract... the Heat did, & they signed him as an offensive focal point. And besides, Odom probably won't get a 5yr/$50M contract. And it's pretty easy to say right now Odom > Bargnani.
Third... Bynum is already proving he may be overpaid.
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[QUOTE=beasted86]You don't pay role players 50 mill either.
If he comes out with another ~16/6 campaign... the Raptors are screwed out of their money.[/QUOTE]
I can make a whole list of player that make more than 10 mill a year (or close to it) that aren't franchise players.
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[QUOTE=TMAC-RAPTORS]I can make a whole list of player that make more than 10 mill a year (or close to it) that aren't franchise players.[/QUOTE]
And the majority are probably overpaid players deemed "untradable".
The truth is most players making in the double digits in millions "should" be part of franchise's core.
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Bargnani is only going on 24 and has tons of room to grow. Especially being a 7footer. He's already shown improvement and I suspect we can all except the same in the future. I personally like the signing.
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[QUOTE=Zan Tabak]Bargnani is only going on 24 and has tons of room to grow. Especially being a 7footer. He's already shown improvement and I suspect we can all except the same in the future. I personally like the signing.[/QUOTE]
I like the idea too but 50 million for 5 years? :eek:
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As long as he keeps improving like he has been I have no problem the contract.
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[QUOTE=TMAC-RAPTORS]Who has ever said we would be a top 4 team? Sure, we might be able to get the 6-8 seed in the weak east.[/QUOTE]
:lol
Maybe you need Juuuuuuust a few more $10 million players, THEN will you be a contender.
:lol $45 million on 4 players doesn't buy what it used to.
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Raptors won 33 games last year with Bosh, Marion, Calderon, and the $10 million dollar man. :lol
"Good job Andrea....here's $50 million extension. Keep up the the good work!!!! Uh...can you get us into the playoffs now?" :lol
Bargnani "Can't make any promises." :lol
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Its funny hearing a fan of a team that gave Allan Houston $100,000,000 cut down someone elses team for giving out a $50,000,000 deal.
Somethings just not right about it.
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[QUOTE=bagelred]:lol
Maybe you need Juuuuuuust a few more $10 million players, THEN will you be a contender.
:lol $45 million on 4 players doesn't buy what it used to.[/QUOTE]
You'd know being a Knicks fan.
Obviously people know that Bagnani isn't worth 10 per right now. More like 8. But people are also expecting him to improve to a 21/8 player which WOULD be worth 10.
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[QUOTE=beasted86]First off... Gasol is not a role player...
Secondly... They never signed Odom to that contract... the Heat did, & they signed him as an offensive focal point. And besides, Odom probably won't get a 5yr/$50M contract. And it's pretty easy to say right now Odom > Bargnani.
Third... Bynum is already proving he may be overpaid.[/QUOTE]
Gasol didn't win 1 playoff game on his own. We're not talking about rings or anything, we're talking about one singular playoff win. As the man he was swept twice... Not saying that Bargnani has approached his level yet in terms of talent, but yes, Gasol was a role player on that Lakers team. Albeit he had a big role as the second best player, but make no mistake, that was Kobe's team. Odom was a role player, and Bynum was/is a role player making HUGE money. 5 years 50 mill isn't that much guys, take a breather. How many 10 mill/year guys are expected to carry a team to the promise land. None that I can think of, not in this day and age.
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Bargnani and Turkoglu... the future of the Raptors? :confusedshrug: