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Who Is the Player From the 90s Thats Gets the Most Overrated Now
We know how this board loves to overrated every player associated with 90s basketall. Which player's repuataton gets the most overrated because of the "90s factor"? Im going with Penny Hardaway.
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inb4 some smartass says Jordan.
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]We know how this board loves to overrated every player associated with 90s basketall. Which player's repuataton gets the most overrated because of the "90s factor"? Im going with Penny Hardaway.[/QUOTE]
Penny was mad sick when he was healthy bro. I think there are MUCH better choices for this thread, such as Shawn Kemp or Alonzo Mourning
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]John Stockton[/QUOTE]
This.
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]John Stockton[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
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[QUOTE=chazzy]Reggie Miller[/QUOTE]
That's a tough one. He fit in so perfectly into those Pacer teams and yet a lot of what we remember about him now has to do with him having heart and being clutch and being cold blooded as hell in the playoffs.
He's one of those players that [I]you can[/I] build a team around, if you want, but he's also such a complimentary piece to any team that you wonder if he might be best utilized as a second option.
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Reggie Miller and Gary Payton.
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I agree with John Stockton and would add Karl Malone to the discussion as well. If Stockton was an NFL quarterback he'd be known as an efficient game manager. He was a good player who played a long time (like Malone) but he was definitely flawed. He couldn't put his team on his back (like a truly elite point guard can) and win if the team needed him to. Magic Johnson could do this. Isiah Thomas could do this. Stockton could not and that is why when the going got tough for the Jazz they couldn't win the ultimate prize. A truly elite pg should have the skills to provide whatever his team needs. If a teammate is hot he should be getting them the ball in the best position to score (which Stockton could do). However, if the team is in a funk then an elite pg should be able to call his own number to get his team going and even win the game if needed. Stockton could not do this.
Malone is just as overrated in my opinion. He was a good power forward but his lack of versatility hurt him and his team in the clutch. He couldn't dribble the ball well enough to initiate his own offense on a consistent basis and had to rely on his teammates to get him the ball so he could score. Opposing teams were able to exploit this hole in his game and use it to defeat the Jazz year after year. He also came up small in the clutch time and time again.
Stockton and Malone were a good tandem (and technically I consider them to be 80's players) who definitely get overrated up here. Their combined shortcomings are why the Jazz never won a championship. They had solid role players around them, definitely enough talent to win. [B][COLOR="Red"]Stockton and Malone didn't lose because their teams weren't good enough, they lost because THEY weren't good enough.[/COLOR][/B]
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Reggie Miller or Charles Barkley.
On ISH, it's Barkley. On other sites, it's Miller. Miller gets underrated on this site to be honest.
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Jordan comes to mind. People have him as some untouchable Greek God or something in their minds.
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[QUOTE=StateOfMind12]On ISH, it's Barkley.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111209025341/glee/images/8/8a/Fred-sanford-heart-attack-o.gif[/IMG]
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John Stockton:
- 15,806 career assists (most in NBA history)
- 3,265 steals (most in NBA history)
- Led the NBA in APG for 9 consecutive seasons (most in NBA history)
- Once averaged 14.5apg for a season (most in NBA history)
- 1,504 games (most with one team in NBA history)
- 10 x All-Star
- 1 x All-NBA 1st Team, 6 x All-NBA 2nd Team, 3 x All-NBA 3rd Team
- 5 x All-Defensive 2nd Team
- 2 x NBA Finalist
- 2 x Olympic Gold Medal Winner
What a scrub! So overrated!
:facepalm
ISH, home of the teenagers.
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[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]Jordan comes to mind. People have him as some untouchable Greek God or something in their minds.[/QUOTE]
They've got him as though his impact (on a game) far exceeded every other all-time great.
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Stock is overrated in the sense that people here think he is actually better than Wade. That's the only overrated thing I saw about Stock on this board
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Probably Payton or Pippen.
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[QUOTE=WillC]John Stockton:
- 15,806 career assists (most in NBA history)
- 3,265 steals (most in NBA history)
- Led the NBA in APG for 9 consecutive seasons (most in NBA history)
- Once averaged 14.5apg for a season (most in NBA history)
- 1,504 games (most with one team in NBA history)
- 10 x All-Star
- 1 x All-NBA 1st Team, 6 x All-NBA 2nd Team, 3 x All-NBA 3rd Team
- 5 x All-Defensive 2nd Team
- 2 x NBA Finalist
- 2 x Olympic Gold Medal Winner
What a scrub! So overrated!
:facepalm
ISH, home of the teenagers.[/QUOTE]
He was an amazing player but that doesn't mean he can't be overrated, i don't agree that he was overrated tho.
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[QUOTE=FreezingTsmoove]Stock is overrated in the sense that people here think he is actually better than Wade. That's the only overrated thing I saw about Stock on this board[/QUOTE]
He is better than Dwayne Wade
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[QUOTE=WillC]John Stockton:
- 15,806 career assists (most in NBA history)
- 3,265 steals (most in NBA history)
- Led the NBA in APG for 9 consecutive seasons (most in NBA history)
- Once averaged 14.5apg for a season (most in NBA history)
- 1,504 games (most with one team in NBA history)
- 10 x All-Star
- 1 x All-NBA 1st Team, 6 x All-NBA 2nd Team, 3 x All-NBA 3rd Team
- 5 x All-Defensive 2nd Team
- 2 x NBA Finalist
- 2 x Olympic Gold Medal Winner
What a scrub! So overrated!
:facepalm
ISH, home of the teenagers.[/QUOTE]
Stockton was great, no doubt. But when people start putting him over Wade, that's when it gets ridiculous. Stockton couldn't be your best player on a championship team. Stockton was a gritty player who did all the dirty things and could stuff a stat sheet, hit some clutch shots. Never one of the very best players in the league like Wade.
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[QUOTE=WillC]John Stockton:
- 15,806 career assists (most in NBA history)
- 3,265 steals (most in NBA history)
- Led the NBA in APG for 9 consecutive seasons (most in NBA history)
- Once averaged 14.5apg for a season (most in NBA history)
- 1,504 games (most with one team in NBA history)
- 10 x All-Star
- 1 x All-NBA 1st Team, 6 x All-NBA 2nd Team, 3 x All-NBA 3rd Team
- 5 x All-Defensive 2nd Team
- 2 x NBA Finalist
- 2 x Olympic Gold Medal Winner
What a scrub! So overrated!
:facepalm
ISH, home of the teenagers.[/QUOTE]
Stockton was a good player who put up impressive career totals due to playing for a long time. His career averages (other than his assist numbers) aren't as impressive. Stockton's consistency is impressive but his longevity is something that is greatly overrated. Favre played forever too and owns many passing records in the NFL but that doesn't mean he's the best QB ever. Isiah and Magic gave you more on a nightly basis than Stockton and their career averages reflect this despite the fact that they played 13 years instead of 19 like him...
I'd take Nash over Stockton anyday, Nash has displayed the abiltiy to take over a game (something Stockton couldn't do) on many occasions.
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Malone.
Miller is not overrated. He would be the second best SG in today's basketball.
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MJ, i swear people out there will have you think he did not have 1 bad game all decade, even say his team was down 0-2 in a game 3 of a conference finals or something of that sort.
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[QUOTE=StateOfMind12]Miller gets underrated on this site to be honest.[/QUOTE]
He's just so difficult to access. Surely he could have done more during the regular season if he wanted to, his playoff performances are an indication of that.
If he had taken 17-20 shots a game, every game, his numbers would have been much gaudier and people would look to push him to the foreground regularly.
But as it stands he put up good numbers, on great percentages and that can't be ignored.
What separates him from other players with better numbers is that he took his team deep into the playoffs multiple times and he fit into the team structure perfectly.
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[QUOTE=blablabla]He is better than Dwayne Wade[/QUOTE]
Lmao
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[QUOTE=Wukillabeez78]Stockton was a good player who put up impressive career totals due to playing for a long time. His career averages (other than his assist numbers) aren't as impressive. Stockton's consistency is impressive but his longevity is something that is greatly overrated. Favre played forever too and owns many passing records in the NFL but that doesn't mean he's the best QB ever. Isiah and Magic gave you more on a nightly basis than Stockton and their career averages reflect this despite the fact that they played 13 years instead of 19 like him...
[B]
I'd take Nash over Stockton anyday, Nash has displayed the abiltiy to take over a game (something Stockton couldn't do) on many occasions.[/B][/QUOTE]
Damn I guess you missed all of the playoffs when Utah made the Finals
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[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]kevin Johnson[/QUOTE]
People forget how soft he was.
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]Malone.
Miller is not overrated. He would be the second best SG in today's basketball.[/QUOTE]
Kobe and Wade right now are better than Reggie Miller in his prime. Eric Gordon healthy is better than Reggie Miller in his prime. Reggie miller is the most one dimensional player ever. Second best sg in today's basketball...what a bunch of ****ing horse shit.
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[QUOTE=imdaman99]MJ, i swear people out there will have you think he did not have 1 bad game all decade, even say his team was down 0-2 in a game 3 of a conference finals or something of that sort.[/QUOTE]
It's interesting he shot 40% in that ECF just before scorching the Suns for 41 ppg on 51% the very next series, but people want to dismiss Shaq's Finals Performances? Not down with that shit. [IMG]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/images/smilies/deal.gif[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]People forget how soft he was.[/QUOTE]
He wasn't soft. He played with an undiagnosed hernia for years. You don't know shit as always. Kevin Johnson wasn't overrated at all.
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[QUOTE=Smoke117]Kobe and Wade right now are better than Reggie Miller in his prime. Eric Gordon healthy is better than Reggie Miller in his prime. Reggie miller is the most one dimensional player ever. Second best sg in today's basketball...what a bunch of ****ing horse shit.[/QUOTE]
Reggie Miller would be better than Durant.
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[QUOTE=Smoke117]Kobe and Wade right now are better than Reggie Miller in his prime. Eric Gordon healthy is better than Reggie Miller in his prime. Reggie miller is the most one dimensional player ever. Second best sg in today's basketball...what a bunch of ****ing horse shit.[/QUOTE]
Eric Gordon is not better than Miller. Call me when he plays on team with a winning record. Or can play a whole season healthy
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[QUOTE=Smoke117]He wasn't soft. He played with an undiagnosed hernia for years. You don't know shit as always. Kevin Johnson wasn't overrated at all.[/QUOTE]
No, he was definitely a p.ussy.
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[QUOTE=Wukillabeez78]I'd take Nash over Stockton anyday, Nash has displayed the abiltiy to take over a game (something Stockton couldn't do) on many occasions.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm