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Bulls Trade James Johnson To Toronto
Trade is official: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=7216[/url]
[URL="http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/bulls-deal-johnson-to-raptors-for-2nd-round-pick.html"]http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/bulls-deal-johnson-to-raptors-for-2nd-round-pick.html[/URL]
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The Bulls have given up on 2009 first-round pick James Johnson, whom they traded to the Raptors on Tuesday The Bulls will receive the Miami Heat's 2011 first-round pick, which was held by Toronto.
Johnson left Bulls practice early in a limousine.
"I consider JJ a little brother," Joakim Noah said. "He wasn't playing a lot. I hope he gets an opportunity to show what kind of player he is." [/quote]
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Thats it? A 2nd rd pick. :confusedshrug:
But what did I expect James Johnson to bring back. Guess something is better than nothing (which he is). Such a lame duck talent. Why did Chicago draft him. Damn.
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Maybe they plan on trading for J.R. Smith after this trade they now have exactly enough cap space to do it.
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Not 100% sure, haven't been able to find an article yet. But I saw that intention posted on realgm earlier, Bulls were looking to acquire a first or second round pick for JJ to shed salary.
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He is still a project, spent time in the D-League, would never play ahead of Brewer, Korver, etc. He was blocked. At least T-Dot's 2nd round picks are like low 1st rounders. :lol
And let us not forget, the sole reason they did this was to free up about $2 million more. They were already $3+ million under the cap. So now they have a little over $5 million free (maybe more). It looks like Chicago may get a SG who makes $5 mil per...anyone fit that bill who is involved in trade rumors?
Courtney Lee and Marcus Thornton made less than James Johnson did...so, it can't be them...
But JR Smith...
[B]JR Smith [/B]makes about as much as Chicago now has freed up.
Interesting.
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[QUOTE=Rose]****ing stupid.:facepalm[/QUOTE]
stop it, jj hardly did anything for this team when it mattered and he isn't getting put in the rotation. best to free up more space than have on the bench just to cheer.
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[QUOTE=Clocian-IGN]stop it, jj hardly did nothing for this team when it mattered and he isn't getting put in the rotation. best to free up more space than have on the bench just to cheer.[/QUOTE]
Sure. Why develop talent!
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[QUOTE=Rose]Sure. Why develop talent![/QUOTE]
where/when is he going to get consistent playing time for this to "possibly" happen?
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The deal makes sense as a precursor to something else. If Chi can get a good sg they become a threat.
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[QUOTE=Clocian-IGN]where/when is he going to get consistent playing time for this to "possibly" happen?[/QUOTE]
Bogans has a team option after this year. Which means Ronnie or Kyle start next year, which leaves a hole on the bench.
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[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]The deal makes sense as a precursor to something else. If Chi can get a good sg they become a threat.[/QUOTE]
It's exactly enough for JR Smith, which is fine with me.
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[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]He is still a project, spent time in the D-League, would never play ahead of Brewer, Korver, etc. He was blocked. At least T-Dot's 2nd round picks are like low 1st rounders. :lol
And let us not forget, the sole reason they did this was to free up about $2 million more. They were already $3+ million under the cap. So now they have a little over $5 million free (maybe more). It looks like Chicago may get a SG who makes $5 mil per...anyone fit that bill who is involved in trade rumors?[/QUOTE]
This trade is a possible precursor to picking up Anthony Parker, JR Smith or Courtney Lee I think. Most likely Parker or Lee.
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[QUOTE=chicity89]This trade is a possible precursor to picking up Anthony Parker, JR Smith or Courtney Lee I think. Most likely Parker or Lee.[/QUOTE]
Had enough for both Lee(cap wise at least) and Parker already. Which means it's gotta be J.R. Smith.
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Iff they gett Rip Bulls are lloooking REAL good
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Why not bring Bogans back?
Bogans makes less money than James Johnson does.
Coaching...management...they love Bogans. I'm happy with him too as he is really growing into his role of late (past 2 or 3 weeks). He really has been money from that corner 3 lately.
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[QUOTE=Rose]Bogans has a team option after this year. Which means Ronnie or Kyle start next year, which leaves a hole on the bench.[/QUOTE]
why do you think the rotation will change next year(unless we get another sg)? bulls will pickup bogans option as obviously it's working.
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[QUOTE=Clocian-IGN]why do you think the rotation will change next year(unless we get another sg)? bulls will pickup bogans option as obviously it's working.[/QUOTE]
because I don't think you can win a championship with Bogans as your starting 2-guard, nor do I think management does. Do you honestly think this Bulls team can win a championship?
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I remember in the war room video of the draft they got Derozan they wanted James Johnson
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[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]He is still a project, spent time in the D-League, would never play ahead of Brewer, Korver, etc. He was blocked. At least T-Dot's 2nd round picks are like low 1st rounders. :lol
And let us not forget, the sole reason they did this was to free up about $2 million more. They were already $3+ million under the cap. So now they have a little over $5 million free (maybe more). It looks like Chicago may get a SG who makes $5 mil per...anyone fit that bill who is involved in trade rumors?
Courtney Lee and Marcus Thornton made less than James Johnson did...so, it can't be them...
But JR Smith...
[B]JR Smith [/B]makes about as much as Chicago now has freed up.
Interesting.[/QUOTE]
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Since the end of January, Bogans is 17-31 from three.
Keith Bogans is shooting 55% from 3 during the last month.
I'm sorry, but Lee or Parker can't do better than that...
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Wait don't we still need to keep enough cap space to pay Rose in the next couple of years?
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[QUOTE=Rose]because I don't think you can win a championship with Bogans as your starting 2-guard, nor do I think management does. Do you honestly think this Bulls team can win a championship?[/QUOTE]
if miami and orlando has a chance to win a chip so do we and again we're playng great with brewer/korver coming off the bench so unless we're getting another SG the rotation will more than likely stay the same
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[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]Since the end of January, Bogans is 17-31 from three.
Keith Bogans is shooting 55% from 3 during the last month.
I'm sorry, but Lee or Parker can't do better than that...[/QUOTE]
lee is def an upgrade over bogans, parker not so much
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[QUOTE=VishaltotheG]Wait don't we still need to keep enough cap space to pay Rose in the next couple of years?[/QUOTE]
They got Bird's rights...no problems there. Reinsdorf has said he will pay the luxury tax for a winner. You better believe Derrick Rose will be a Bull 4 Life.
[QUOTE=Clocian-IGN]lee is def an upgrade over bogans, parker not so much[/QUOTE]
He is.
I'm just saying he won't be able to shoot better than 55% from 3 like Bogans has for the past month. Bogans is working hard to shed the rep he earned at the start of the season. Bogans has even been attacking the basket lately and looks way improved from where he did in October and November.
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Chicago's now got enough cap room to bring on Anthony Parker for nothing.
And if it's Toronto's own 2nd, that's not AWFUL. You expect a better return for a 16th pick, but obviously only when that 16th pick isn't a bust.
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[QUOTE=Clocian-IGN]if miami and orlando has a chance to win a chip so do we and again we're playng great with brewer/korver coming off the bench so unless we're getting another SG the rotation will more than likely stay the same[/QUOTE]
Miami has the best two players in the league on their team and argueable another top 15-17 player. Thats why it's different.
Bulls need a legit 2 guard to give them needed scoring. If they can get JR Smith it makes them elite IMO. Although it depends on his mindset he can cost you games..just depends if he can be kept under contol.
What are the chances Rip is moved? seems unlikely.
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[QUOTE=Rose]It's exactly enough for JR Smith, which is fine with me.[/QUOTE]
Bulls need RIP not JR Smith. Rip would play smart and be a good vet presence for a young team. Smith brings the Team IQ down 10 points. Might just make Chi less of a threat. He'll have some 30 point games, some nights where you think CHI has an All-Star backcourt but when the Bulls are in a series he's going to do something stupid to cost them at least one game. They'll be up 1 vs. Miami in game 5, 28 seconds on the clock, Noah grabs a crucial rebound, hands it to Smith who sprints across the half-court line for a long-range brick. Rebound to Wade who smoothly brings it back up the floor and wins it with a jumper with .02 left on the clock. Why? Because that's just how he is. In the meantime he wouldn't understand Thibs D and you'd have half the Bull fans calling for Thibodeau to be fired because they think they have young Ray Allen sitting on the bench while everyone hopes Bogans crosses the six-point mark. Chi needs to stay away from that one.
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[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]But JR Smith...
[B]JR Smith [/B]makes about as much as Chicago now has freed up.
Interesting.[/QUOTE]
You have Bogans, no need for Jr Smith right? Well?
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update: we actually got a 1st round pick for him
what a steal for someone who will not get any burn on this team :D
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JJ was one of my favorite Bulls, I wish him well. I may have a reason to watch Raptor games now.
I have to think this is a precursor to a bigger deal.
JR Smith would make my week.
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Bulls def did this to set something up. Whats the odds of Rip getting bought out? I don't want JR Smith, he's too much of a head case.
I keep hearing rumors of Boston getting Battier. If that happens, Game Over.
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And actually it was JJ for Miamis 1st round pick next year.
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[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]Bulls need RIP not JR Smith. Rip would play smart and be a good vet presence for a young team. Smith brings the Team IQ down 10 points. Might just make Chi less of a threat. He'll have some 30 point games, some nights where you think CHI has an All-Star backcourt but when the Bulls are in a series he's going to do something stupid to cost them at least one game. They'll be up 1 vs. Miami in game 5, 28 seconds on the clock, Noah grabs a crucial rebound, hands it to Smith who sprints across the half-court line for a long-range brick. Rebound to Wade who smoothly brings it back up the floor and wins it with a jumper with .02 left on the clock. Why? Because that's just how he is. In the meantime he wouldn't understand Thibs D and you'd have half the Bull fans calling for Thibodeau to be fired because they think they have young Ray Allen sitting on the bench while everyone hopes Bogans crosses the six-point mark. Chi needs to stay away from that one.[/QUOTE]
Players seem to respect Thibs since he's imposing his defensive will on opposite teams even though the Bulls have no really amazing defenders. I don't think JR will be an exception.
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Trade is for Miami's 2011 1st round pick. Confirmed.
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Whats the odds of Chicago getting Mayo?
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[QUOTE=jasonresno]And actually it was JJ for Miamis 1st round pick next year.[/QUOTE]
Ic,so its a 1st but its really close to being a 2nd round pick since it will be from Miami
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
who?
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[QUOTE=bagelred]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
who?[/QUOTE]
The most popular 12th man in the league, at least in Chicago :oldlol: