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[QUOTE=Whoah10115]That's not quite how it works. One, I don't know why Bargnani would get guarded by a center. And I don't remember many instances of Bargnani guarding the center last year. This year, Davis is on the bench and the rookie is starting and most certainly guarding every center.[/QUOTE]
I told you. Two of the three times I watched the Raptors, Val was injured so it was Bargs and Davis starting.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]When do you see the Grizzlies trading Randolph for Earl Clark and Jordan Hill?[/QUOTE]
That's too much talent in return, they'd probably trade him for Sacre and Duhon.
regardless if its Davis or Daye I like this trade. Def better than getting Dudley.
Allen + Prince is godly on D
[QUOTE=DStebb716]MEMPHIS gets: Ed Davis, Tayshaun Prince, third piece (either Austin Daye or 2nd round pick)
TORONTO gets: Rudy Gay, Hamed Haddadi
DETROIT gets: Jose Calderon[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have Daye than the pick.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]I agree Memphis loses the trade but with Prince they don't lose it AS bad.[/QUOTE]
How much does Prince have left in the tank?
If he's up to top level, still a good defensive player, but yea, losing a huge amount on offense.
But this is really a salary dump.
And more to get Ed Davis, so eventually they will move Randolph.
Another thing is the Raptors screw OKC (probably intentionally) because their pick likely won't even be lottery most likely if Gay meshes. They will probably be a borderline playoff team by season end in the 9 or 10 seed. Then again draft sucks anyways so w/e.
[QUOTE=hawkfan]How much does Prince have left in the tank?
If he's up to top level, still a good defensive player, but yea, losing a huge amount on offense.
But this is really a salary dump.
And more to get Ed Davis, so eventually they will move Randolph.[/QUOTE]
I agree it's about money and I think they are starting a full blown rebuild with Randolph likely on the way out as well in the near future.
[QUOTE=ThickassGlasses]That's too much talent in return, they'd probably trade him for Sacre and Duhon.[/QUOTE]
True. Memphis would probably kick in another 1st rounder :oldlol:
I don't see the big deal people are making. IMO Grizzlies are a better team after this trade.
Prince fits into the defensive scheme of the Grizzlies, Gay didn't fit in with Randolph for some reason.
Davis is a great future PF & a nice Speights replacement.
Daye is a good shooter & deserves minutes in this league.
According to Raptors writer Calderon was just escorted by the team staff out of the locker room. Done deal obviously :applause: .
[QUOTE=ThickassGlasses]How in God's green Earth did the Grizzlies go in any mold except for Scrooge's?
Stacked the bench? They blew up their bench.
They now traded Gay for a bag of peanuts and Ed Davis who will be coming off the bench, assuming they don't Trade Zach Randolph for Royce White here in a couple of hours. (Or the best available armchair Point Guard, whoever is cheaper).[/QUOTE]
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Looks like a done deal, what a shame...Memphis is such a good team, they just needed to keep adding parts to the team...why trade your best player?
I just realized we have derozan gay and ross on the team oh shit we gonna be on espn highlights
[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Looks like a done deal, what a shame...Memphis is such a good team, they just needed to keep adding parts to the team...why trade your best player?[/QUOTE]
Owners be scared of luxury taxes.
[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Looks like a done deal, what a shame...Memphis is such a good team, they just needed to keep adding parts to the team...why trade your best player?[/QUOTE]
Gasol is clearly the best player.
There is no problem with trading Rudy Gay for a more team oriented shooter (versus an iso specialist that kills ball movement). The problem is their lack of getting anything worthy in return. I don't think a single player outside of Pondexter on the team can shoot, and their bench is no better than it was 2 weeks ago with Speights and Ellington.