What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say that..
MJ/Kobe would be the best players BY FAR, because no one made anywhere near the jumpshooting variety or VOLUME that they made.. they could average 30+ by shooting all jumpers, while guys with poor jumpshooting skill (lebron) would average maybe 10 ppg or less.
both MJ/Kobe made over 700 jumpshots in their peak seasons - that's 250 more than lebron or curry's highest volume seasons, and at an efficiency that exceeded lebron's best jumpshooting seasons
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Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
yes yes quite true OP
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Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
What if they didnt have to?
Oh, it would just be the NBA?
Thanks bye
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
[QUOTE=red1;14124890]yes yes quite true OP
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Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
At least that settles LeBron > AD
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
The answer to this is dirk but guessing you didn’t watch him either. No one took such a high amount of jump shots on his accuracy and he had 3 pt range too.
No offense to Kobe but there are multiple stars better than him at jumpshooting. Kd is an obvious choice clearly better at it. Ofc idk if you’ve watched kd either
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
[QUOTE=NBAGOAT;14124902]The answer to this is dirk but guessing you didn’t watch him either. No one took such a high amount of jump shots on his accuracy and he had 3 pt range too.
No offense to Kobe but there are multiple stars better than him at jumpshooting. Kd is an obvious choice clearly better at it. Ofc idk if you’ve watched kd either[/QUOTE]
OP had admitted he hasn't watched an NBA game in 10 years
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
[QUOTE=Wally450;14124885]Cool story bro[/QUOTE]
[Indent][B]Effective FG% on all jumpshots for Curry, MJ, Lebron[/B]
.................[U]eFG% All Jumpshots[/u]
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2004[/url]: 35.6%, 324/998
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2005[/url]: 39.9%, 400/1136
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2006[/url]: 41.7%, 423/1166
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2007[/url]: 39.5%, 372/1066
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2008[/url]: 39.4%, 338/1001
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2009[/url]: 42.2%, 366/1024
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2010[/url]: 43.4%, 356/970
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2011[/url]: 45.4%, 393/968
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2012[/url]: 43.7%, 290/726
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2013[/url]: 49.0%, 333/784
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2014[/url]: 47.0%, 288/736
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2015[/url]: 43.1%, 280/788
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2016[/url]: 39.0%, 181/543
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2000[/url]: 38.5%, 328/851
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2001[/url]: 43.0%, 460/1141
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2002[/url]: 41.8%, 478/1184
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2002-03&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2003[/url]: 44.1%, 597/1494
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2004[/url]: 40.3%, 282/787
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2005[/url]: 43.5%, 346/947
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2006[/url]: 46.5%, 709/1724
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2007[/url]: 46.7%, 556/1358
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2008[/url]: 44.6%, 468/1217
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/977/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Bryant 2009[/url]: 45.0%, 519/1285
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/893/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Jordan 1997[/url]: 51.2%, 727/1528
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/201939/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Currry 2015[/Url]: 56.0%, 424/1029
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/201939/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Currry 2016[/url]: 62.9%, 389/847[/indent]
[B]both MJ/Kobe made over 700 jumpshots in their peak seasons - that's 250 more than lebron or curry's highest volume seasons, and at an efficiency that exceeded lebron's best jumpshooting seasons
btw, Lebron shoots worse at higher volume, while Kobe/MJ maintain their efficiency because they're simply much better jumpshooters (greater jumpshooting repertoire - they can get jumpers off in many more ways with greater accuracy)
Infact, their volume and greater contested shooting ability makes them better jumpshooters than Curry[/b]
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
[QUOTE=ThatCoolKid;14124934]What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
[QUOTE=ThatCoolKid;14124934]What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.[/QUOTE]
only jordan was a goat driver and goat jumpshooter.. ONLY jordan has this.. so no
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
This guy is increasingly losing it. LeBron 7 wins away from another chip. :oldlol:
Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14124979]This guy is increasingly losing it. LeBron 7 wins away from another chip. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
my arguments are unaffected by Lebron's 4th ring and infact become more relevant
he'll always have a skill restriction to ball-domination, so he can never play the best brand that dominates the championship level.. ultimately, his skillset turns teammates to play-finishers, which doesn't develop brand or young players, thus forcing him to team-hop for ready-made stars.. that's sad and not even top 10, let alone #2..
essentially, his lack of jumpshooting skill prevents him from playing the off-ball "shooter" role, thus keeping him on-ball and hogging the passing duties (low assist teams and low ball movement brand that goes 4/10 on the championship level)
so get ready for people to do more deep dives and my arguments to become more standard.. lebron will never be goat because the facts and his skills don't support it
