I think he is...
1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3. Lebron
4. Garnett
5. Dirk
then...
6. Nash
7. Wade
8. - 10. Melo, T-Mac, Amare, Iverson, Pierce, Arenas, Yao, ect. (whatever)
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I think he is...
1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3. Lebron
4. Garnett
5. Dirk
then...
6. Nash
7. Wade
8. - 10. Melo, T-Mac, Amare, Iverson, Pierce, Arenas, Yao, ect. (whatever)
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett
Lebron James/Dwayne Wade
Steve Nash
Nope, not top 5 over here.
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Lebron James
Kevin Garnett
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"what does a playa have to do to get on this list?"
for those of you that over rate Wade and actually have him over Garnett and Lebron could you please list your top ten to let me know where you think Dirk stands currently....
1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3. Garnett
4. LeBron
5. Wade
[QUOTE=-primetime-]for those of you that over rate Wade and actually have him over Garnett and Lebron could you please list your top ten to let me know where you think Dirk stands currently....[/QUOTE]
Dirk comes after Steve Nash which makes him ranked 7th.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Dirk comes after Steve Nash which makes him ranked 7th.[/QUOTE]
now if only Dirk had an Amare to keep him from being triple teamed...
[QUOTE=-primetime-]for those of you that over rate Wade and actually have him over Garnett and Lebron could you please list your top ten to let me know where you think Dirk stands currently....[/QUOTE]
1) Tim Duncan
2) Kobe Bryant
3/4) Dwyane Wade
3/4) LeBron James
5) Kevin Garnett
6) Steve Nash
7) Dirk Nowitzki
8) Allen Iverson
9) Tracy McGrady
10) Gilbert Arenas/Paul Pierce/Carmelo Anthony
[quote]now if only Dirk had an Amare to keep him from being triple teamed...[/quote]
Come on, man. Let's not make excuses. He's a Maverick. Nash is a Sun. That's just the way it is.
considering it's probably this yr's performance that dropped Dirk of many's top 5, why is Wade still there?
1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBROn James
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Dwayne Wade
6. Dirk Nowitski
7. Amare Stoudemire
8. Steve Nash
9. Gilbert Arenas
10. Carmelo Anthony/Allen Iverson/ Tracy Mcgrady
[QUOTE=DatZNasty]considering it's probably this yr's performance that dropped Dirk of many's top 5, why is Wade still there?[/QUOTE]
Wade was injured for a lot of the season. Dirk wasn't.
[QUOTE=DatZNasty]considering it's probably this yr's performance that dropped Dirk of many's top 5, why is Wade still there?[/QUOTE]
I've had Wade above Dirk since last year. Even when discounting age, I'd take Wade over Dirk everyday of the week.
1. Duncan
2-4. Kobe/Bron/Wade
5. Nash
6. Garnett
7. Dirk
[QUOTE=DatZNasty]considering it's probably this yr's performance that dropped Dirk of many's top 5, why is Wade still there?[/QUOTE]
[B][SIZE="3"]EXACTLY[/SIZE][/B]
Wade shouldn't be in anyone's top 5 much less above Lebron...
lebron took his team to the Finals without the help of Shaq...
Wade is the most overrated player in the NBA
Someone should do a thread tallying up the votes for the top 10 players on ISH (L.Kizzle style). Anyone wanna start this?
[QUOTE=mlh1981]Someone should do a thread tallying up the votes for the top 10 players on ISH (L.Kizzle style). Anyone wanna start this?[/QUOTE]
That would be starting World War 3. :oldlol:
[quote]EXACTLY
Wade shouldn't be in anyone's top 5 much less above Lebron...
lebron took his team to the Finals without the help of Shaq...
Wade is the most overrated player in the NBA[/quote]
Haven't we already gone through this?
He's in mine...fam did win MVP.
1. Kobe
2. TD
3. LeBron
4. Dirk
5.Garnett
[QUOTE=Richie2k6]Wade was injured for a lot of the season. Dirk wasn't.[/QUOTE]
And that makes him better than Dirk?
shouldn't it be the opposite?
Wade was a first round out this year just like Dirk...
Wade spent his season in a wheelchair yet people have him ranked higher than Dirk....that is ridiculous
[QUOTE=Richie2k6]
Haven't we already gone through this?[/QUOTE]
me and you have yes...
[QUOTE=-primetime-][B][SIZE="3"]EXACTLY[/SIZE][/B]
Wade shouldn't be in anyone's top 5 much less above Lebron...
lebron took his team to the Finals without the help of Shaq...
Wade is the most overrated player in the NBA[/QUOTE]
Arguing Wade as a top 3-5 player in this league is a very legitamite argument. Shaq or no Shaq, he's still a tremendous player who's accomplished a great deal in his short career. If you're going to punish him for having Shaq then Kobe shouldn't be in your top 5 either.
1: Duncan
2: Kobe
3: LBJ
4: Nash
5: Garnett >= Dirk
6: Wade
[quote]And that makes him better than Dirk?[/quote]
Pretty much.
[quote]shouldn't it be the opposite?[/quote]
If you're injured, that doesn't make you any less of a player.
[quote]Wade was a first round out this year just like Dirk...[/quote]
Don't even let me start telling you all the problems the Heat had this year...
[quote]Wade spent his season in a wheelchair yet people have him ranked higher than Dirk....that is ridiculous[/quote]
If Duncan breaks his hand in the season, Dirk > Duncan? NO. If you're injured, it doesn't make you WORSE.
Wade just HAS to be top 5. Clutch player who plays with no fear. Cannot be stopped in the open court. If you add in other things (character, willingness to play through pain, etc), you have to include him on this list.
[QUOTE=Free]Arguing Wade as a top 3-5 player in this league is a very legitamite argument. Shaq or no Shaq, he's still a tremendous player who's accomplished a great deal in his short career. If you're going to punish him for having Shaq then Kobe shouldn't be in your top 5 either.[/QUOTE]
I am not talking career wise...I am talking about currently.
Kobe didn't spend last season in a wheel chair...he led a group of nobodys to the playoffs without shaq, just like lebron.
Wade was in the playoffs this year because of Shaq, and we he came back he lost.
[QUOTE=-primetime-]I am not talking career wise...I am talking about currently.
Kobe didn't spend last season in a wheel chair...he led a group of nobodys to the playoffs without shaq, just like lebron.
Wade was in the playoffs this year because of Shaq, and we he came back he lost.[/QUOTE]
Wade has also made it deep into the playoff w/o Shaq on his team.
Wade plays with Shaq.. Wade isn't even the best player on his own team.. let alone better than Dirk..
Duncan
Kobe
Lebron
Nash
Wade
this should be it.
[QUOTE=Richie2k6]
If you're injured, that doesn't make you any less of a player.
[/QUOTE]
yes it does...being injury prone does make you less of a player....injuries have ruined many careers.
Wade dislocated his shoulder and has gone through knee surgury...Dirk stays healthy....in my book that is a big PLUS for Dirk.
[QUOTE=mlh1981]Wade has also made it deep into the playoff w/o Shaq on his team.[/QUOTE]
In the East? Bg whoop..
[QUOTE=Richie2k6]
If Duncan breaks his hand in the season, Dirk > Duncan? NO. If you're injured, it doesn't make you WORSE.[/QUOTE]
I don't see why not. I wouldn't give an injured player the benefit of the doubt to such an extent that he would be in my top 5 right now. He has to prove that he's a top 5 player. If he's not there, too bad for him, I guess he's not eligible. You have to prove yourself every season. You can't coast off what you did the year before.
[QUOTE=Agent_Zero]Duncan
Kobe
Lebron
Nash
Wade
this should be it.[/QUOTE]
You gotta have Garnett on that list somewhere. He's just too good to not have him included.
[QUOTE=FabCasablancas]Wade plays with Shaq.. Wade isn't even the best player on his own team.. let alone better than Dirk..[/QUOTE]
read the text under your name. maybe then you'll get a clue. :rolleyes:
wade > shaq and dirk right now.
whole careers shaq and dirk > wade but he's what 4 years into the league. give players time before you start comparing them to veterans.
[quote]I am not talking career wise...I am talking about currently.[/quote]
Well of course Dirk > Wade, right now. Wade isn't 100%. :oldlol:
[quote]Kobe didn't spend last season in a wheel chair...he led a group of nobodys to the playoffs without shaq, just like lebron.[/quote]
Lol. Kobe led a group of scrubs to the playoffs? Cool. Now actually get into the second round. *Crickets* Lebron? Good for him. And you keep bringing up the wheelchair issue as if it's a crime to get injured.
[quote]Wade was in the playoffs this year because of Shaq, and we he came back he lost.[/quote]
Not true. Wade did a lot before and after he was injured. Shaq just had a bigger role than he did the year before, because Wade was injured. What's so hard to understand?
[QUOTE=Agent_Zero]Duncan
Kobe
Lebron
Nash
Wade
this should be it.[/QUOTE]
Garnett > Nash & Wade
[QUOTE=mlh1981]You gotta have Garnett on that list somewhere. He's just too good to not have him included.[/QUOTE]
i guess.
duncan
kobe
lebron
nash/wade
garnett
im really not sure about whos better nash or wade. could someone help
[quote]yes it does...being injury prone does make you less of a player....injuries have ruined many careers.[/quote]
Is Wade 35? No. You can't predict his career right now.
[quote]Wade dislocated his shoulder and has gone through knee surgury...Dirk stays healthy....in my book that is a big PLUS for Dirk.[/quote]
Not a big enough plus for Dirk to be better than Wade.
[quote]Wade plays with Shaq.. Wade isn't even the best player on his own team.. let alone better than Dirk..[/quote]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=-primetime-]I am not talking career wise...I am talking about currently.
Kobe didn't spend last season in a wheel chair...he led a group of nobodys to the playoffs without shaq, just like lebron.
Wade was in the playoffs this year because of Shaq, and we he came back he lost.[/QUOTE]
Huh? Shaq played damn near half the season, how is he responisble for the Heat being in the playoffs? And Wade being injured doens't make him a bad player, he suffered a freak injury, one that he will more than likely recover from. Not to mention he was averaging crazy # prior to his injury (29/8/5, 2 stl and 1.3 bl).
[QUOTE=Richie2k6]Well of course Dirk > Wade, right now. Wade isn't 100%. :oldlol:
[/QUOTE]
ok, then why the fu-ck do you have him ranked higher?
[QUOTE=Agent_Zero]i guess.
duncan
kobe
lebron
nash/wade
garnett
im really not sure about whos better nash or wade. could someone help[/QUOTE]
Just look at the complete package. Wade--more athletic, has a ring, clutch player. Nash--also clutch, but not as clutch as Wade, team leader for Suns, great passer, better shooter. Just weight out those diff. things.