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Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[url]http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/sep/24/iverson-says-camby-trade-came-as-kind-of-a-shock/?partner=RSS[/url]
[QUOTE]Since the Nuggets went into a cost-cutting mode during the summer and traded Marcus Camby to the Clippers for next to nothing, many have wondered: Could Allen Iverson be the next big-dollar player to go?
Including Iverson.
"It's a possibility," Iverson said in an interview Wednesday with the Rocky after working out Wednesday with teammates at the Pepsi Center. "We'll just see what happens. I wouldn't be upset either way because it's a business. . . . The one thing about a trade is when somebody trades for you, they want you. That's what you want as an athlete."
With Iverson, the Nuggets' highest-paid player at $20.84 million, entering the final year of his contract, many believe he could be dealt by the February trading deadline because the Nuggets wouldn't want to risk losing him for nothing when he becomes a free agent in July. He could be very attractive to a team seeking salary-cap room in 2009.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"My agent (Leon Rose) and my manager (Gary Moore), they let me know (being traded is) a possibility," Iverson said. "But that's not something that I concern myself with. I go out and play as hard as I can and whatever happens, happens."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"I don't think that's on the table, but you never know what the league will deliver you," Karl said. "You never know what packages will come your way."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Iverson during the summer was willing to opt out of the final season of his contract and sign a multiyear deal with the Nuggets. His camp even presented the option of Iverson playing for less money this season, but the Nuggets never came back with an offer.
"I was kind of bothered by it," Iverson said. "Being the fact that, from the time that I got here (in December 2006), I gave them everything I had. Obviously, I did some good things. . . . I thought they would at least make an offer for me to turn down. I thought they'd at least offer me a dollar or something.
"But there aren't no hard feelings. I feel like there are good people around here. They have their reasons for why they didn't do anything, just like they got their reasons for what they did with Marcus."
Iverson said he's "set for life" and "obviously . . . would consider" taking a pay cut next season.
"It's a good feeling because this will be the first time that I'll be a free agent," the 33-year-old, 12-year veteran said. "It's something different in my career. . . . Next summer, it's going to be a fun time for me because I get to weigh my options and go wherever I want to go."[/QUOTE]
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
He should go to the Knicks :roll:
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
wish he didnt make soo much loot.... We could bring him back .... that would be fun..
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
The one thing I have always loved about AI is the fact he plays his heart out every single game, regardless of the speculation that surrounds him. He knows this is a business. And he knows the state the Nuggets are in. He has the heart of a warrior. I hope he does well this year and finally gets to really contend for a winning team
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If there was any way possible of seeing an Iverson trade midseason to the Rockets, I'd love to see it. Yao/McGrady/Artest/AI:eek:
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
if he drastically tones down his game (to the point that his stats will be pretty pedestrian), he can be a contributor to a contender. But as the "27 point and 8 dime per game" player? He won't help a contender.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
one way or another, Iverson will end up with either the Cavs or Heat, with the longshots be Mavs, Spurs.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]one way or another, Iverson will end up with either the Cavs or Heat, with the longshots be Mavs, Spurs.[/QUOTE]
Why do you say that?
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=EricForman]if he drastically tones down his game (to the point that his stats will be pretty pedestrian), he can be a contributor to a contender. But as the "27 point and 8 dime per game" player? He won't help a contender.[/QUOTE]
He has the ability to be a 20/10 player, maybe on low efficiency, but he has had that ability his whole career. It would be great if he can turn into that, but unfortunately I think he's too old and too stuck in his ways.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=guy]Why do you say that?[/QUOTE]
a couple reasons.
because I think that both he and mgmt realize that he is not an ideal fit alongside Melo.
because I think that he realizes that he is unlikely to win a championship anytime soon in Denver (and he's not getting any younger).
because he is an expirer and is clearly looking forward to weighing his options.
unlike some folks here on ISH, I do not believe he is an entirely selfish player. I think he would happily play an appropriate role beside players like Duncan, Lebron, Dirk, etc.
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Remember Nick Van Exel back when he was on the Mavs? Dude was such a spark for them off the bench. I can see Iverson in that same type of role somewhere.
[B]Van Exel's Stats With Dallas[/B]
27.8 mpg
12.5 ppg
4.3 apg
38% from deep
Seemed like he scored in loads when he was on that team
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]one way or another, Iverson will end up with either the Cavs or Heat, with the longshots be Mavs, Spurs.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean this year, or after his contract ends?
I dont think Iverson is what th Cavs need. They need a post player. And they already have a shoot first point in Mo. I dont think his services would make them much better and essentially they would be renting him for a year.
Nugz could deal AI for Marion, but why would they? They have Melo already at the 3. I would prefer Marion over AI personally for the Heat
Kidd for AI? Josh Howard+Stackhouse for AI? What would they package for him?
Spurs are not getting him this season so lets just rule that one out
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]a couple reasons.
because I think that both he and mgmt realize that he is not an ideal fit alongside Melo.
because I think that he realizes that he is unlikely to win a championship anytime soon in Denver (and he's not getting any younger).
because he is an expirer and is clearly looking forward to weighing his options.
unlike some folks here on ISH, I do not believe he is an entirely selfish player. I think he would happily play an appropriate role beside players like Duncan, Lebron, Dirk, etc.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure he won't be in Denver. I was talking about why those teams? I can't see him in San Antonio cause they already have two guards that do the bulk of the scoring, and one of whom is similar to AI in that he's an undersized shoot-first PG, even though AI is not a PG but I'm sure you get the point.
I'm not sure why he would go to Cleveland. They just got Mo Williams who is basically the same type, and Lebron dominates the ball way too much to adapt with AI's style, even moreso then Melo.
In Miami, Wade is basically the same player, just bigger and more efficient. I don't see AI there unless he plays PG. Plus they aren't contenders, and I don't think will be next season.
Dallas is on the decline, although with Kidd at PG, it might be a good fit depending on how much Kidd declines.
AI is my favorite player but I don't know where he'll end up. I think if he could tone down on the scoring and play some PG, he'd be perfect on alot of contending teams like the Rockets, Lakers, Celtics. With his current playing style, the only contending teams I can think of where he could play starting SG and fit is Detroit, Orlando, and Philly (depending on how good they are this year.)
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
What about a buyout??
You think AI would be willing to do so in order to latch onto a contender around February?? And who would be interested??
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=Venja42]What about a buyout??
You think AI would be willing to do so in order to latch onto a contender around February?? And who would be interested??[/QUOTE]
He is more of an asset to the Nugges with his expiring contract than to just buy him out.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=ihatetimthomas]He is more of an asset to the Nugges with his expiring contract than to just buy him out.[/QUOTE]
Definitely agree...
But say the deadline passes and the Nuggets wanna try to save a few dollars on the end of their cap. I think its possible . . .
They might try to accommodate him
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=Venja42]Definitely agree...
But say the deadline passes and the Nuggets wanna try to save a few dollars on the end of their cap. I think its possible . . .
They might try to accommodate him[/QUOTE]
Yea I could see something like that happening if they cant get a deal done. I think the key to this whole AI saga is not to rush things and not to make a hasty trade just to get something for him. If he walks, at least they free up cap
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=Venja42]What about a buyout??
You think AI would be willing to do so in order to latch onto a contender around February?? And who would be interested??[/QUOTE]
He's not Marbury.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
Knowing Denver's front office, I would not be surprised i he isn't in Denver next year, or by March. They "traded" Camby, and let Najera and Diawara walk. Sucks to see him have to move again if it happens, but like he said, it's a business. All depends on how Denver does from the beginning to February.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
I'd like to see him in Orlando.
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[QUOTE=AItheAnswer3]I'd like to see him in Orlando.[/QUOTE]
good call. he would be a good fit.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=Richie2k6]Knowing Denver's front office, I would not be surprised i he isn't in Denver next year, or by March. They "traded" Camby, and [B]let Najera and Diawara walk[/B]. Sucks to see him have to move again if it happens, but like he said, it's a business. All depends on how Denver does from the beginning to February.[/QUOTE]
When did this happen?!?!? Anyone pick up Najera??? I love that dudes hustle...
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
Id absolutely love to see Dallas get Iverson. I wish we could get him for Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse, & Brandon Bass but I am not delusional. A straight up Kidd for Iverson might be ok, I just hate to lose Kidd. But Iverson is a better fit with Nowitzki and Kidd is a better fit in Denver where he will be reunited with KMart and would be feeding Carmelo shots until Melos arms fall off.
I dunno, on paper Kidd for Iverson makes a ton of sense for both teams. Id welcome Iverson to Dallas, he is the perfect teammate for Nowitzki, they would shine together.
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[QUOTE=Kobe681]When did this happen?!?!? Anyone pick up Najera??? I love that dudes hustle...[/QUOTE]
He's with the Nets now.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
I think he's sensing the Nuggests ship is sinking.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=miles berg]Id absolutely love to see Dallas get Iverson. I wish we could get him for Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse, & Brandon Bass but I am not delusional. A straight up Kidd for Iverson might be ok, I just hate to lose Kidd. But Iverson is a better fit with Nowitzki and Kidd is a better fit in Denver where he will be reunited with KMart and would be feeding Carmelo shots until Melos arms fall off.
I dunno, on paper Kidd for Iverson makes a ton of sense for both teams. Id welcome Iverson to Dallas, he is the perfect teammate for Nowitzki, they would shine together.[/QUOTE]
How about Kidd AND AI?
Kidd is big enuf and strong enuf to defend the 2.
On offense, Kidd plays 1 and AI plays 2.
I think they are both expirers...I'm guessing both realize they will be taking real pay cuts on their next contracts. Give them both 2 or 3 year deals.
Bring Terry off the bench.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE]I thought they would at least make an offer for me to turn down. [B]I thought they'd at least offer me a dollar or something.[/B][/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]good call. he would be a good fit.[/QUOTE]
Howard and AI :bowdown: . Orlando can use some of AI's offense. Though they dont have the pieces to trade for him.
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[QUOTE=AItheAnswer3]Howard and AI :bowdown: . Orlando can use some of AI's offense. Though they dont have the pieces to trade for him.[/QUOTE]
and if they dare to double either Howard or AI...boom, it goes to Hedo...or to Rashard. Opponents better rotate damn fast!
That could be a scary lineup.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]and if they dare to double either Howard or AI...boom, it goes to Hedo...or to Rashard. Opponents better rotate damn fast!
That could be a scary lineup.[/QUOTE]
Sweet! But... how are they getting him?
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=Prodigy]Sweet! But... how are they getting him?[/QUOTE]
after the season when AI is unrestricted.
unless Orlando has a bunch of expiring contracts and a good young player to offer.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=Prodigy]Sweet! But... how are they getting him?[/QUOTE]
Rashard/Cook for Iverson works numbers wise.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
The only way Denver deals AI is if they get mostly expirers in return. Their goal is to shed salary, like they did in the Camby trade and they still have a $77M payroll this season.
There are only a few team that have the expirers to make it work, then they have to add talent and picks.
NY (Marbury, Rose)
Dallas (Kidd)
Cleveland (Wally, Snow, Varejo)
Miami (Marion)
and maybe some others. Ideally Denver should also look to unload 1 of Nene or Martin since those contracts are also holding back the team. (AI, K-Mart, Nene and Melo alone make $60M)
Personally I would love see AI in Cleveland with LBJ.
Wally
Varejao
West/Gibson
Snow
2#1's
for
AI
K-Mart/Nene
Atkins
[B]CAVS[/B]
Mo Williams / Atkins
Iverson / Gibson
LBJ / Kinsey
K-Mart / Hickson
Ilgauskas / Wallace
WOW!
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=tontoz]Rashard/Cook for Iverson works numbers wise.[/QUOTE]
Yea Im sure the Nuggets are looking to take on an even bigger contract for 5 more years.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
That Rashard Lewis contract has to be the hardest contract in sports to trade. Absolutely horrible contract.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
If Denver would just like to get expirers for AI, they might as well keep him seeing that he is an expirer himself. They would his star power to keep some fans coming and a chance at the playoffs, while still being able to shed 20 mil at the end of the season.
Now if they can get some kind of young talent, then a trade would be smart, other wise no. But I personally don't think Denver's front office is very smart.
[quote=ChuckOakley][B]CAVS[/B]
Mo Williams / Atkins
Iverson / Gibson
LBJ / Kinsey
K-Mart / Hickson
Ilgauskas / Wallace
WOW![/quote]
That bench doesn't look too good, but that starting line-up is insane.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
i wouldn't be upset either. the nuggets are at best an 8th seed in the western conference. i don't like iverson very much, but i'd like to see him win a championship before his career is over because of his dedication to the game.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
CE-?
PF-Michael Beasley
SF-Shawn Marion
SG-Dwyane Wade
PG-Allen Iverson
Not bad on the heat.
CE-Shaq
PF-Amare
SF-Hill
SG-Iverson
PG-Nash
Not bad on the suns.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)]If Denver would just like to get expirers for AI, they might as well keep him seeing that [B]he is an expirer himself[/B]. [/QUOTE]
I don't think some of the people here realize that.
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Re: Iverson on being traded: It's a possibility. I wouldn't be upset either way..."
[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)][B]If Denver would just like to get expirers for AI, they might as well keep him seeing that he is an expirer himself[/B]. They would his star power to keep some fans coming and a chance at the playoffs, while still being able to shed 20 mil at the end of the season.
Now if they can get some kind of young talent, then a trade would be smart, other wise no. But I personally don't think Denver's front office is very smart.
That bench doesn't look too good, but that starting line-up is insane.[/QUOTE]
That's why in the trade I proposed they also get rid of either Nene's or K-Mart's ridiculous contract as well as landing modest talent (D.West or D.Gibson + 2 #1 picks)
After this season they would have
D.West / Carter
JR Smith
C.Anthony
Klieza / Balkman
Nene / Hunter
+
Thier own drafts picks
2 Cleveland picks
+
Cap space