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Tipping at restaurants?
Why does America have this consensus that people should tip 15%?
I mean these waitress/waiters are making at least minimum wage PLUS tips. This is almost $20-40 per hour. How is that even fair? Thats a very very good wage for someone without a college education and doing some trifling work.
Other jobs like CPAs or attorneys do not get tipped. In fact, with these occupations, people try to take advantage of them and demand free consultations before even signing a retainer with them
No other occupation requires tips, but why restaurants? If those waiters/waitress feel they are underpaid, they can always get another job.
People who work much harder jobs don't even make $20 per hour.
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Tipping works to the customer's favor because it gives the waiter a better reason to provide you with better service.
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Minimum Wage plus tips? Hmmm
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tipping is a city in china
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[QUOTE=DMV2]They make less than minimum wage per hour. Like, ~$3/hr or so.[/QUOTE]
Not in california. Waiters and waitress MUST make minimum wage which is $8
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[QUOTE=BlueCrayon]Tipping works to the customer's favor because it gives the waiter a better reason to provide you with better service.[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't the threat of being fired from the job enough to give customer's service? Their job isn't even difficult at all.
I mean customer's service representatives don't get tips, but they must give you good service or face the threat of being terminated.
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[QUOTE=DMV2]Maybe they don't have to tip in California.[/QUOTE]
Yes you do...people demand 15%
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[QUOTE=DMV2]There are 7 states that pay minimum: [url]http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm#.UOkEs2872ok[/url]
I wouldn't tip in those states.[/QUOTE]
That's what i'm saying...why should I tip when they are already paid a wage. No other occupation gets tipped.
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[QUOTE=BlueCrayon]Tipping works to the customer's favor because it gives the waiter a better reason to provide you with better service.[/QUOTE]
This. Without tipping, you can get the waiter that half asses everything and they have no repercussions. Many other places it is easier to walk away if you don't like the service, but you are expected to pay for your food once you order it, so you are essentially stuck with that server until you leave, so you want that server to be motivated.
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I tip 10% because the servers make 10.25 in Canada
unless the restaurant is busy as hell and they give me good service, I dont go above 10
but if they are fineeee as hell dressing like high class escorts and smiling a lot with good service, then a 15 is mandatory
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Being in this business and seeing that there are so many jerks that tip small to none among good customers, I am now trying to tip more than 10% when I dine out, and everyone should do the same.
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Lesson 1: Understand that essentially you have a 'servant' for a small period of time(ie: 1 hour)
Lesson 2: Understand that this servant must oblige with your every wish for fear that you ask for their manager because you (had a bad date, think the waiter/tress looked at you wrong, hate your life, other bs reason)
Lesson 3: It's a service, they bring you food, you give them money, besides, you're spending $55 on food, is an extra $7.50 going to kill you?
I usually tip my bartender at least 5 bucks when i go there, they treat my ass like royalty too, gave her a $20 xmas tip too
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Stop being a cheap loser and tip the people.
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I always tip 15% as long as the server is doing their job. It's tedious and I wouldn't like to be in their shoes. (only time I don't tip is when they are AWFUL and provide bad customer service)
If they exceed the standard I'll give them anywhere from 20-25%
Not too long ago I spent $30 bucks ordering pizzas and wings on papajohns website and I decided to add a 10 dollar tip to the order. The delivery person was extremely content about that he brought us two 2 liter soda's on the house.
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[QUOTE=BMOGEFan]Why does America have this consensus that people should tip 15%?
I mean these waitress/waiters are making at least minimum wage PLUS tips. This is almost $20-40 per hour. How is that even fair? Thats a very very good wage for someone without a college education and doing some trifling work.
Other jobs like CPAs or attorneys do not get tipped. In fact, with these occupations, people try to take advantage of them and demand free consultations before even signing a retainer with them
No other occupation requires tips, but why restaurants? If those waiters/waitress feel they are underpaid, they can always get another job.
People who work much harder jobs don't even make $20 per hour.[/QUOTE]
There's no reason for it really when they make minimum wage. It's just the American culture to tip waiters. So just tip because it's part of the culture.
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Expecting/begging for tips in a job where you make a shit wage without tips is like the douche equivalent of being on welfare. You're still asking for a handout, except you feel entitled to complain when you don't get one.
I usually tip around 25%, if not a bit more, but i still find it hilarious how often this topic is made and how "people in this industry" come off like complete assholes about not getting tipped. No one but you put yourself in the position where you are dependent on your fellow men for a handout. If they choose not to give it, don't spite them and badmouth them online. How about use that energy towards having the ambition to find better employment where you aren't guilt tripping people into giving you more. You're the type of people that make me not want to tip just to say **** you and your attitude. But i choose not to group every waiter/pizza delivery with the likes of you, because i'm not looking for a reason to be a bitch like those bitching about not getting tips.
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most countries are not as spoiled and fortunate to even sniff a 10% tip
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[QUOTE=Loneshot]Expecting/begging for tips in a job where you make a shit wage without tips is like the douche equivalent of being on welfare. You're still asking for a handout, except you feel entitled to complain when you don't get one.
I usually tip around 25%, if not a bit more, but i still find it hilarious how often this topic is made and how "people in this industry" come off like complete assholes about not getting tipped. No one but you put yourself in the position where you are dependent on your fellow men for a handout. If they choose not to give it, don't spite them and badmouth them online. How about use that energy towards having the ambition to find better employment where you aren't guilt tripping people into giving you more. You're the type of people that make me not want to tip just to say **** you and your attitude. But i choose not to group every waiter/pizza delivery with the likes of you, because i'm not looking for a reason to be a bitch like those bitching about not getting tips.[/QUOTE]
wow you are generous, 15% is more than fair
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In MA, waiters make noticeably less than minimum wage. I generally tip 25%.
I'm familiar with the food service industry, and the disrespect from patrons is widespread. I'm pleasant and I get [B]always[/B] that in return. Better for everyone and my food and service is [B]always legit[/B].
For pizza places and the like, always drop a tip because non-tippers are remembered. A friend manages a pizza shop. The workers sabotage asshole non-tippers' food if they order again.
Especially if you call a place regularly, they will remember whether or not you tip well. In most joints, good tippers get better food. Built-in incentives that benefit everyone. Paying 5% extra on your bill is a small price to pay at places you frequent.
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What I hate is tipping bartenders.
It's there ****ing job. Pour liquor in cup.
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[QUOTE=Ol Dirty Bastard]What I hate is tipping bartenders.
It's there ****ing job. Pour liquor in cup.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this one. If you buy a quick drink, they poor it in about 20 seconds and their job is done. I do understand tipping bar tenders if it is busy and they seem to do their best at getting to you quickly rather than overlooking you over and over.
Essentially, whether it is waiters/waitresses or bartenders, tip should only be necessary if their job at the moment includes frequently checking on you to see if you need anything.
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[QUOTE=Myth]I agree with this one. If you buy a quick drink, they poor it in about 20 seconds and their job is done. I do understand tipping bar tenders if it is busy and they seem to do their best at getting to you quickly rather than overlooking you over and over.
Essentially, whether it is waiters/waitresses or bartenders, tip should only be necessary if their job at the moment includes frequently checking on you to see if you need anything.[/QUOTE]
I picked up a ridiculously hot bartender once when I didn't tip her, and she asked me why.
Turns out 99.9% of humans with penises tip her, and her curiosity got me a few dates with her.
Funny thing is I thought I left a tip, but she must have thought it was someone else's. Was a fun few weeks.
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[QUOTE=Pushxx]I picked up a ridiculously hot bartender once when I didn't tip her, and she asked me why.
Turns out 99.9% of humans with penises tip her, and her curiosity got me a few dates with her.
Funny thing is I thought I left a tip, but she must have thought it was someone else's. Was a fun few weeks.[/QUOTE]
Bi[COLOR="Black"]tch[/COLOR]es love cheap guys.
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The only people who I don't tip are bartenders when I'm ordering beer only. I just feel like pulling down a lever and filling up a cup is way too simple a task to get extra money on top of the 6 bucks I'm already paying for the beer. If I ask for a cocktail of some kind where they have to put some effort into mixing ingredients and stuff then I'll tip.
In terms of servers at restaurants, I actually didn't realize in California they make the full minimum wage. It might change how I tip, but honestly I'll still probably leave them something.
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[QUOTE=Myth]This. Without tipping, you can get the waiter that half asses everything and they have no repercussions. Many other places it is easier to walk away if you don't like the service, but you are expected to pay for your food once you order it, so you are essentially stuck with that server until you leave, so you want that server to be motivated.[/QUOTE]
Just a ridiculous retarded American mentality and culture. People working hard just because they get tips. I am staying in South Korea and it's every bit (if not much more) modern in living conditions etc. However, with these service industries (cabs, restaurants, etc) you don't tip. What's even crazier..is that the service is still 100x better than back at home. They treat you so well, just because it is their job and they know other people can easily do what they do. They appreciate just having a job and making sure they do a good job at it.
I like the In n Out mentality. Pay a reasonable wage ($9 an hour to start if im not mistaken). Get rid of this tipping wildness. Gotta tip everywhere, bartenders (and I was one), etc. It's ridiculous.
Personally, I like a system better where everyone is rewarded if the company/restaurant is successful. Also, rewards people for staying with a company longer. Turnover is a huge cost and waste of scrills in restaurants. Simply, have a year-end bonus (even for part-time workers). If the company does good, everyone gets rewarded.
end rant/
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The reason we have tipping is because it [I]works[/I] (better service). If you dont like tipping, go eat somewhere where they hand you your food on a tray, and note the difference in service.
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In Quebec, the minimun wage is 9,90$ and the minimum wage for workers who make tips is $8.55
Me, I always give 15% if I received a very good service or if the waitress is really hot :D
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I like how this angry narrative about tipping always gets thrown at the small person, like the waiter or bartender, but no one ever complains about how the corporate restaurant itself, is ripping you off left and right with prices and such. You don't want to tip? Then demand that corporations and restaurants pay their employee's a decent wage. Waiting tables and bar tending are not minimum wage jobs. Actually go work 8 hours straight in a busy restaurant or bar, and you'll find out it's just as hard, if not harder then your BS, cubicle, desk, insurance claims, medical debt, collared golf shirt, douche baggery you perpetuate daily.
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[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt]I like how this angry narrative about tipping always gets thrown at the small person, like the waiter or bartender, but no one ever complains about how the corporate restaurant itself, is ripping you off left and right with prices and such. You don't want to tip? Then demand that corporations and restaurants pay their employee's a decent wage. Waiting tables and bar tending are not minimum wage jobs. Actually go work 8 hours straight in a busy restaurant or bar, and you'll find out it's just as hard, if not harder then your BS, cubicle, desk, insurance claims, medical debt, collared golf shirt, douche baggery you perpetuate daily.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
You realize if they paid their employees more, the price of food would go up too right?
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[QUOTE=bmulls]:rolleyes:
You realize if they paid their employees more, the price of food would go up too right?[/QUOTE]
No shit, that's why when these rants come up it's pretty ridiculous. You're gonna pay one way or another. Bottom line.
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Tripping at restaurants is the new shit.
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Tipping is sort of weird. Sometimes when I go to out to eat with my family 5-8, I always tip like $10 because of the amount of times the waiter needs to go back and fourth getting drinks. You also need to keep in mind that my table size is 5-8 at times but that waiter is also servicing 2-4 other tables and could be servicing 20+ on any given hour. If I go out to eat with 1-2 people I only leave a $2-3 tip. There shouldn't be a required tip. That pisses me off. I've had waiters botch orders, take 30 minutes to bring me my drink, and appear as if I was just wasting their time asking them for refills and extra sauce.
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[QUOTE=BMOGEFan]Why does America have this consensus that people should tip 15%?
I mean these waitress/waiters are making at least minimum wage PLUS tips. This is almost $20-40 per hour. How is that even fair? Thats a very very good wage for someone without a college education and doing some trifling work.
Other jobs like CPAs or attorneys do not get tipped. In fact, with these occupations, people try to take advantage of them and demand free consultations before even signing a retainer with them
No other occupation requires tips, but why restaurants? If those waiters/waitress feel they are underpaid, they can always get another job.
People who work much harder jobs don't even make $20 per hour.[/QUOTE]
1st question: are you a total idiot?
2nd question: are you a total f--king idiot?
3rd question: have you ever thought about googling this matter if you had your questions?
sorry to be so harsh, but your numbers and your research make you look like a total rich-kid, sheltered buffoon in the OP. maybe you've learned your lesson since then, but i didn't read that far. but good luck with that shit, since you obviously need it......
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38[/url]
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[QUOTE=The Macho Man]Every time this thread happens it depresses me how cheap and miserable people are. Be generous you pricks.[/QUOTE]
Or how delusional Americans are about how prosperous their fellow Americans are.
I really can't wait for the time when people stop eating out and get back to home cooking (not anytime soon since this and the last generation of women can't cook for shit) just to shove it in the tip-whores faces. Make a big deal about tipping when they lay you off due to lack of demand. *fades back* "Hostess!"
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[QUOTE=Loneshot]Or how delusional Americans are about how prosperous their fellow Americans are.
I really can't wait for the time when people stop eating out and get back to home cooking (not anytime soon since this and the last generation of women can't cook for shit) just to shove it in the tip-whores faces. Make a big deal about tipping when they lay you off due to lack of demand. *fades back* "Hostess!"[/QUOTE]
:coleman:
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[QUOTE=gigantes]1st question: are you a total idiot?
2nd question: are you a total f--king idiot?
3rd question: have you ever thought about googling this matter if you had your questions?
sorry to be so harsh, but your numbers and your research make you look like a total rich-kid, sheltered buffoon in the OP. maybe you've learned your lesson since then, but i didn't read that far. but good luck with that shit, since you obviously need it......[/QUOTE]
Its pretty clear you're the idiot. I suspect you are a ****en waiter.
Go get your ass to work on a sunday you dipshit.
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[QUOTE=The Macho Man]Every time this thread happens it depresses me how cheap and miserable people are. Be generous you pricks.[/QUOTE]
What you don't understand is that they get paid in FULL...minimum wage to serve your. its their job to serve you. They have no other duties BUT to serve you.
So why should they be entitled to a tip? When they are simply doing their job.
If they don't like the wage of being a waitress, they can get another one.
Like some restaurants that charge over 30 dollars a person, the amount of tips become outrageous very easily when there are a party of 5 or more. At this point, charge over 30 a person, the restaurant can easily give their waitresses a higher wage.
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[QUOTE=red1]:coleman:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Macho Man]:biggums:[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=The Macho Man]Who fcking cares you cheap miserable prick.[/QUOTE]
HAHAH did someone not give you a tip when you were at work last night?