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ralph_i_el 01-07-2013 01:34 AM

Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Usually you see two sides to this debate:

Idiots-"Players are way more athletic nutrition training evolution blah blah blah"
Everyone else- "That's just turrible"

But just by watching you can tell that there are more hyper athletic players in the league right now than in earlier eras. People have struggled to explain this phenomenon but I think I've come up with an pretty decent explanation

lets compare the population in the US in 1980 (227 million) and today (~315 million) for a difference of around 88 million which is almost a 40% increase in population.

If we assume that the same % of population is inclined to play basketball in both time periods (and I think it would be fair to say that the sport is more popular now than it was then but I have no way of quantifying that), then there are 40% more people total playing the sport. Even if the number of freak athlete's per 10000 people remained the same, that still accounts for 40% more freak athlete's competing for spots in the NBA today than there were in the 1980's.


40% More people= 40% more MJs, Lebrons, and russel westbrooks


this reconciles that fact that there is no way humans have evolved significantly over the period of time that the NBA has been in existence with the obvious fact that the NBA is more athletic now than ever.

andremiller07 01-07-2013 01:35 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Because as time goes on PED's are getting better and used more and more accessible to all.

red1 01-07-2013 01:35 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
Usually you see two sides to this debate:

Idiots-"Players are way more athletic nutrition training evolution blah blah blah"
Everyone else- "That's just turrible"

But just by watching you can tell that there are more hyper athletic players in the league right now than in earlier eras. People have struggled to explain this phenomenon but I think I've come up with an pretty decent explanation

lets compare the population in the US in 1980 (227 million) and today (~315 million) for a difference of around 88 million which is almost a 40% increase in population.

If we assume that the same % of population is inclined to play basketball in both time periods (and I think it would be fair to say that the sport is more popular now than it was then but I have no way of quantifying that), then there are 40% more people total playing the sport. Even if the number of freak athlete's per 10000 people remained the same, that still accounts for 40% more freak athlete's competing for spots in the NBA today than there were in the 1980's.


40% More people= 40% more MJs, Lebrons, and russel westbrooks

you have a bigger talent pool nowadays and athletic ability is an obvious advantage so it figures that you will have more athletic players

BMOGEFan 01-07-2013 01:35 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
no.

back then, people use fundamentals to play, so its not as flashy and cool as it is now.

with the lack of fundamentals in this league, people rely on players doing flashy moves. flashy moves appear to be more atheletic. but they fail to realize that it takes major athleticism to be fundamentally sound.

ralph_i_el 01-07-2013 01:38 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by red1
you have a bigger talent pool nowadays and athletic ability is an obvious advantage so it figures that you will have more athletic players


yeah that's pretty much what i'm getting at

CavaliersFTW 01-07-2013 01:39 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
http://youtu.be/NakXs0mEdAA?t=59s

players got more athletic? really?

seems to me like people just like the way it sounds cause it makes it seem like we've "progressed" so they keep saying it. If there is any difference at all, it's likely due to PED's and such, and the difference in how it effects the quality of basketball is likely insignificant

red1 01-07-2013 01:39 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOGEFan
no.

back then, people use fundamentals to play, so its not as flashy and cool as it is now.

with the lack of fundamentals in this league, people rely on players doing flashy moves. flashy moves appear to be more atheletic. but they fail to realize that it takes major athleticism to be fundamentally sound.

Another retarded post from this dimwit. Are you ever right about anything?

ralph_i_el 01-07-2013 01:42 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
http://youtu.be/NakXs0mEdAA?t=59s

players got more athletic? really?

seems to me like people just like the way it sounds cause it makes it seem like we've "progressed" so they keep saying it


I'm trying to say that players didn't get more athletic, we just have more athletic players because there are more players in general.

BMOGEFan 01-07-2013 01:42 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by red1
Another retarded post from this dimwit. Are you ever right about anything?


You do know that players are not as fundamentally sound as before because none of them learn how to do it when they are young.

Do you think someone as dumb as javale mcgee would make a squad back in the 80s? probably not.

so these super athletic players wouldn't even be showcased.

i'm beginning to think you don't even have pubs yet.

SyRyanYang 01-07-2013 01:44 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
http://youtu.be/NakXs0mEdAA?t=59s

players got more athletic? really?

seems to me like people just like the way it sounds cause it makes it seem like we've "progressed" so they keep saying it. If there is any difference at all, it's likely due to PED's and such, and the difference in how it effects the quality of basketball is likely insignificant


Quote:

Originally Posted by red1
Another retarded post from this dimwit. Are you ever right about anything?


You quoted wrong post bro

red1 01-07-2013 01:47 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
This is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOGEFan
no.

back then, people use fundamentals to play, so its not as flashy and cool as it is now.

with the lack of fundamentals in this league, people rely on players doing flashy moves. flashy moves appear to be more atheletic. but they fail to realize that it takes major athleticism to be fundamentally sound.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOGEFan
but they fail to realize that it takes major athleticism to be fundamentally sound.


How are you going to explain your way out of this?

BMOGEFan 01-07-2013 01:48 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SyRyanYang
You quoted wrong post bro


That guy is just that damn dumb.

He's going to say that Dwight Howard is more athletic than kareem or wilt.

The athleticism is most likely comparable between the 3 players. However the two with fundamentals wouldn't need to rely on their athleticism to achieve their end results. Thats why it appears they are less athletic.

red1 01-07-2013 01:49 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOGEFan
You do know that players are not as fundamentally sound as before because none of them learn how to do it when they are young.

Do you think someone as dumb as javale mcgee would make a squad back in the 80s? probably not.

so these super athletic players wouldn't even be showcased.

i'm beginning to think you don't even have pubs yet.

You are so goddamn dumb holy f*ck it just doesnt stop. You really think mcgee won't make an nba team in the 80s? And no I don't have "pubs" you f*gg*t

red1 01-07-2013 01:49 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOGEFan
That guy is just that damn dumb.

He's going to say that Dwight Howard is more athletic than kareem or wilt.

The athleticism is most likely comparable between the 3 players. However the two with fundamentals wouldn't need to rely on their athleticism to achieve their end results. Thats why it appears they are less athletic.

said who? you are just making shit up

BMOGEFan 01-07-2013 01:50 AM

Re: Why people think players are more athletic today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by red1
This is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.





How are you going to explain your way out of this?


are you saying you don't need to be athletic to be fundamentally sound?

God i swear you are an idiot.


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