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[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]:oldlol: keep telling yourself that. House players absolutely exist.[/QUOTE]
I know house players exist, I never stated otherwise. You said, most players on those sites work for that company. That's two different statements. One is correct, the other false.
So $250/week profit for 4 hours of playing, to somebody who (it sounds like) has little/no experience playing? It's going to be extremely difficult if not straight up impossible. Only a matter of time before you realize that you're just giving money away.
[QUOTE=johndeeregreen]So $250/week profit for 4 hours of playing, to somebody who (it sounds like) has little/no experience playing? It's going to be extremely difficult if not straight up impossible. Only a matter of time before you realize that you're just giving money away.[/QUOTE]
Nope, I meant 4-6 hours a day during weekends and maybe a night during the week. If I couldn't get to the point whee 50 hours per month got 1000 dollars in profit there is no point. That is only 20 bucks per hour.
But this is starting to sound like a bad idea.
Well good luck.
[QUOTE=kaiteng][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2yjuxZAT5k"]It may not work well for us.[/URL][/QUOTE]
You'll have to place low bets while having a huge budget
let's say $0.50 or $0.20 bets with a $1000 budget
its hard but not hard if you know what your doing and dynamics of poker. first off you need to find a niche on what kind of poker game your good at and stick to it 100 percent. i can get good at any type but specifically i dominate at "double up" sit and goes. 10 people sit down at a table, after 5 people get knocked out everyone wins there buy in times 2. if you stick to tournys, learn how to play tournys and stick to it. all types of games have different styles of play to succeed.
when you start winnning. dont start buying in more expensive games, thats bad bankroll management and thats how good pllayers lose there money. they buy in 5 dollar games and win consistently, then they buy into 20-30 dollar buy ins and they blow there bankroll. general rule of thumb is to buy into .5 percent of your bankroll. so if you have 1000 dollars in yoru poker account, only play 5 dollar buy ins.
also, if you feel a bad streak coming or if your on a bad streak. learn how to step away and take a break.
i recommend dan harringtons poker books. they will teach you how to statistically play, but after you get that you will develop your own style.
I dont even know how to play poker.
[QUOTE=macmac]I know house players exist, I never stated otherwise. You said, most players on those sites work for that company. That's two different statements. One is correct, the other false.[/QUOTE]
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I'll teach you everything about it for $25 an hour.
[QUOTE=macmac]I dont play much online except for some sunday tournaments whenever I have the day off.
The only way to make money online playing poker these days if you're not super talented, is to grind really long hours on the micro stakes. [B]You need to get to Supernova on stars,[/B] play 10-14 tables at a time and just try to break even playing, the VPPs you earn are basically a rakeback that gives you cash at the end of the month.
However, if you have 4 hours a week available, and no real gameplan, it's only a matter of time before your bankroll gets crushed[/QUOTE]
homeboy is probably in the united states so that's probably out of the question.
[QUOTE=kaiteng][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2yjuxZAT5k"]It may not work well for us.[/URL][/QUOTE]
you will absolutely without a doubt be unsuccessful trying to make $1000 a month playing online roulette. just not happening. online casino's is one of the shaddiest businesses that exist. to the guy that said the majority of online poker players work for the online poker sites :biggums:
It's funny you ask because it's reminiscent of my poker experience.
In 2008 in my 1st year at Stern (NYU), all I did was play online poker on full-tilt. Usually 1/2 and I'd put $100 bucks on a cash table. Or I'd play sit n go's, never really had the time to register for a big tournament so those were omitted. I did fairly well, my first experience was registering $3.30 for a 90 men sit n go (knockout). So everytime you knock a player out, you get like 50 cents or something. I won first and got I believe 72 bucks. Then I joined sit n go's and kept winning. Twelve hours later I had over 600 bucks and I withdrew most of it and bought myself a TV for my room.
I wasn't a big poker fan but it seemed fairly easy. I continued playing and was doing good, but I would actually fold sets and sometimes straights because I was very tight and careful. That strategy was very effective for me honestly. Then after a while I started to become more aggressive, and that's when my bankroll either skyrocketed or I went broke.
Anyways for the first year, I bought a TV and decorated my room; overall I won over a thousand. But after that I was hit with a cold deck. My flushes were beaten by bigger flushes and people were flopping straights on my top set. It was unreal and I eventually quit full-tilt.
Last year, I turned 21 and started going to the casino. I literally lived off my winnings from the casino the entire year without hitting my line of credit, credit cards or employment income. I'd recommend that.
But I'll give you some advice:
1) Look for a talkative table, where there are aggressive players on the table liking to make plays and/or are drunk.
2) Play low limit, start at 1/2 (what I always play)
3) Only bring money you can afford to loss, don't gamble with your tuition money or rent money etc.
4) SET A TIME LINE. This is essential for me. I usually would come to the casino around 12 pm and will always leave no later then 8pm unless I go broke. If I hit $500 mark, I walk every time. I start with 150 or 200 usually. The reason I am telling you this is because every-time you go up in chips, unless you're a great player, you will get greedy and start playing loose. You'll get relaxed and start losing focus. Be DISCPLINED at casino, because if you're both a disciplined and an instinctive player you will do good. Try reading the players, it is critical. I noticed that when players place their chips on a call or a raise farther from them, they are bluffing or have a mediocre hand. Players that place their chips near them, are usually strong.
When you first sit at a table, wait about 30 minutes. Adjust to each player and try to read their tendencies. Go after the ultra-aggressive players, and don't be afraid to change tables on a super conservative table. Trust me, it will take you a while to win money and if you're a rookie; you'll mostly likely loss your bankroll.
Bottom line, don't play online. It's so dirty. On a monthly basis, going to a casino 2-3 days a week; I end up with around 1000 bucks. One month I won close to 6k, another month I'd break-even or loss a few hundred bucks. But overall, my bank account after my graduation was still over $3,000 and that was after me spending a ton of money on games, clothes, entertainment, clubs, my girlfriend etc etc.
But I don't get greedy and I have a routine. I don't ever take more then $200 bucks, I never play longer then 8 hours and I play very tight and look for tables with aggressive players. In an 8 hour session, I ask for a table change roughly 3-4 times.
Good luck bro, but honestly don't gamble your school money. The last thing you want is to ruin your future over a game that has ruined thousands of people's lives. Don't take my story to heart and don't be inspired by it. Maybe I'm just fortunate, but my consistency tells me otherwise.
I also end up in the money on most of the house games I play in. I do play passive-aggressive, but at the casino I play super-tight and look for players who are overly aggressive or drunk. Trust me, wait for your opportunity and over time you chips will go up. Most people when they start losing chips due to blinds or bad beats, go on tilt and end up losing all their chips. DO NOT GO ON TILT, ACCEPT A BAD BEAT AND CONTINUE PLAYING YOUR GAME. Stay focused and I think overtime you will do good. But I don't suggest playing online poker, you're chasing fools gold.
^ I concur
When I played Full tilt, I only played sit and goes, 3 tables max at a time with a poker tracker.
But now I exclusively play house games and live poker @ the casino.
I look for a loose table and I keep tabs on the loose players. They come in like clockwork.
Even so, it's hard to play tight in live poker because people generally play a lot more loose there. Plus the bets at a casino are like 2-3x the normal kind of bets online and you almost always have an edge on every gamble.
damn rhythmic
If you are playing, say, an average of 10 hours per week and you play 4 tables at a time you are looking at about 300 hands per hour, so 12,000 hands per month.
To make a thousand dollars at a really good winning rate (5 BB/100 hands) playing a total of 12,000 hands you are looking at winning 600 BB.
$1000/600 = $1.7 per BB so you'll need to be playing $0.50/$1 blinds as an absolute minimum.
So you'll need to buy in with $100 on each table, so you'll need a bank of about $3000.
A bit more reasonable than my first calcs, but still you'll need tp play really good to keep that rate up over a long period.
The problem is that you need to stay in the zone. So you need to be playing a few hours every day, in my opinion.
Better question: WHERE to play online poker that is actually legit? Meaning you can easily transfer money in and OUT without any problems