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Since the season is over it may not have dawned on some of you that the Draft is in 6 days.
I also guess you people want something to discuss other than the Heat and Lebron which there are about 45 threads about.
So anyway Alex Len potentially at one? How far will Noel fall? As much as people hate on Cody Zeller I could see a contender making a move for him maybe a team like the Pacers trading up using George Hill to grab Zeller and then flipping Danny Granger for an Eric Bledsoe.
Obviously a TON of teams are going to looking for large powerful rim protectors.
Michael Carter-Williams is another interesting prospect, 6-6 PG with a good first step and nice touch around the basket.
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bump.
Also there are a lot of interesting Euros in this class, Mohammdou Jaiteh might be the most interesting, very skilled but young big man.
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[QUOTE=Zodiac]bump.
Also there are a lot of interesting Euros in this class, Mohammdou Jaiteh might be the most interesting, very skilled but young big man.[/QUOTE]
Bumped after two minutes. Good job.
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[QUOTE=DStebb716]Bumped after two minutes. Good job.[/QUOTE]
:lol :oldlol: :roll:
BTW, OP: you do realize there is a whole board for the NBA Draft, right?
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mclemore is reportedly falling down on draft boards because of weak workouts with teams. that was surprising.
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[QUOTE=Pushxx]:lol :oldlol: :roll:
BTW, OP: you do realize there is a whole board for the NBA Draft, right?[/QUOTE]
That no one goes to?
Yeah I had to bump after two minutes cause it was already at the bottom, Heat fans be spamming the forum with the same thread
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[QUOTE=Pushxx]:lol :oldlol: :roll:
BTW, OP: you do realize there is a whole board for the NBA Draft, right?[/QUOTE]
lets be real... no go to that shit.
only two boards worth posting on are nba forum and off the court lounge.
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[QUOTE=LBJMVP]mclemore is reportedly falling down on draft boards because of weak workouts with teams. that was surprising.[/QUOTE]
BM just doesn't seem very appealing.
I think there's a guy with a little bit of Kobe potential in this draft in KCP.
There's a lot of very big and long combo guards that can score in this class and even a Monta Ellis type in McCollum.
I expect about 8-10 big men to go in the first 20 picks though
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There's a reason the NBA Draft board is dead: nobody actually knows shit. Starting a random thread on the NBA Forum isn't gonna do anything.
Also, the Heat just won a championship for better or for worse. Nobody is gonna post in a f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking NBA Draft thread on the main page. Stop bumping this shit.
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Op so mad right now LeBron the goat
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[QUOTE=Pushxx]There's a reason the NBA Draft board is dead: nobody actually knows shit. Starting a random thread on the NBA Forum isn't gonna do anything.
Also, the Heat just won a championship for better or for worse. Nobody is gonna post in a f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking NBA Draft thread on the main page. Stop bumping this shit.[/QUOTE]
It's in 6 days, people will post in it, especially people who aren't Heat fans.
SB Nation is doing a blogger mock, btw here's the link.
[url]http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2013/6/17/4437472/sb-nation-blogger-2013-nba-mock-draft[/url]
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[QUOTE=Zodiac]BM just doesn't seem very appealing.
I think there's a guy with a little bit of Kobe potential in this draft in KCP.
There's a lot of very big and long combo guards that can score in this class and even a Monta Ellis type in McCollum.
I expect about 8-10 big men to go in the first 20 picks though[/QUOTE]
all i want is for cleveland to take noel and than trade up for muhammad. that is my ideal scenario for our draft.
mccollum, noel, muhammad, oladipo, porter, and glen rice jr are gonna be the stars in this draft.
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[QUOTE=LBJMVP]all i want is for cleveland to take noel and than trade up for muhammad. that is my ideal scenario for our draft.
mccollum, noel, muhammad, oladipo, porter, and glen rice jr are gonna be the stars in this draft.[/QUOTE]
Eh Muhammad goes doesn't have much a mid-range game and he can only drive effectively from one direction, I'd much rather have KCP or Jamaal Franklin.
Franklin is going to be a stud btw
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Mclemore will be so good if he doesn't do the disappearing act again
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[QUOTE=Zodiac]Since the season is over it may not have dawned on some of you that the Draft is in 6 days.
I also guess you people want something to discuss other than the Heat and Lebron which there are about 45 threads about.
So anyway Alex Len potentially at one? How far will Noel fall? As much as people hate on Cody Zeller I could see a contender making a move for him maybe a team like the Pacers trading up using George Hill to grab Zeller and then flipping Danny Granger for an Eric Bledsoe.
Obviously a TON of teams are going to looking for large powerful rim protectors.
Michael Carter-Williams is another interesting prospect, 6-6 PG with a good first step and nice touch around the basket.[/QUOTE]
I'd still be very surprised if Noel doesn't go No. 1. I'd be absolutely shocked if Len was the pick. That has smokescreen written all over it.
I'm going to guess the Top 5 will look like this...
1. Cleveland - Nerlens Noel
2. Orlando - Ben McLemore or Trey Burke
3. Washington - Otto Porter Jr.
4. Charlotte - Alex Len
5. Phoenix - Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo
The guy I could see falling further than people think is Ben McLemore if Orlando opts for Burke or someone else at #2. Neither Washington or Charlotte are taking him and I think Phoenix leans toward Oladipo.
Word is McLemore has not had very good workouts and his advanced metrics are very pedestrian.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I'd still be very surprised if Noel doesn't go No. 1. I'd be absolutely shocked if Len was the pick. That has smokescreen written all over it.
I'm going to guess the Top 5 will look like this...
1. Cleveland - Nerlens Noel
2. Orlando - Ben McLemore or Trey Burke
3. Washington - Otto Porter Jr.
4. Charlotte - Alex Len
5. Phoenix - Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo
The guy I could see falling further than people think is Ben McLemore if Orlando opts for Burke or someone else at #2. Neither Washington or Charlotte are taking him and I think Phoenix leans toward Oladipo.
Word is McLemore has not had very good workouts and his advanced metrics are very pedestrian.[/QUOTE]
I agree Noel seems like a perfect fit in Cleveland but Alex Len has so much upside to his game.
I think MCW will be the steal of the draft though, extremely talented passer with a nice touch around the rim and some mid-range ability
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[QUOTE=Zodiac]I agree Noel seems like a perfect fit in Cleveland but Alex Len has so much upside to his game.
I think MCW will be the steal of the draft though, extremely talented passer with a nice touch around the rim and some mid-range ability[/QUOTE]
I think Noel has more upside than Len. Noel has the potential to be the best defensive player in the NBA. As an 18-year-old, he led the nation in blocks with an absurd 4.5 per game and even had 12 blocks against a Top 15 team (Ole Miss)... And he was also second in the SEC in steals (2.1 per game).
On top of that, he's an elite athlete who finishes very well around the basket with either hand. He had no jumper or post game, but that can be taught. His athleticism, length and timing on the defensive end can not be taught.
To me, assuming his medical checks out, Noel is both the safest pick and the one with the most upside. At worst, he's going to be Larry Sanders 2.0, which is pretty damn good. Great rim protectors are hard to come by in this league. He's the best to come out in a long time.
On top of all that, he kills in advanced stats and seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
MCW is sort of an enigma for me. He obviously has great length for the position and was a great defensive player at Syracuse, but sometimes it's hard to tell if a guy is a great individual defender at SU or if they're just a product of that ridiculous matchup zone system, there. His jumper also obviously needs a lot of work.
I'm also sometimes leery of guys who don't contribute until late in their college careers.
Still, MCW seems to have a nice set of tools and a good frame. Interesting prospect for sure.
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[quote=RedBlackAttack]I'd still be very surprised if Noel doesn't go No. 1. I'd be absolutely shocked if Len was the pick. That has smokescreen written all over it. [/quote]
They have the top pick. Do they need a smokescreen?
I'm going to guess the Top 5 will look like this...
[quote]1. Cleveland - Nerlens Noel
2. Orlando - Ben McLemore or Trey Burke
3. Washington - Otto Porter Jr.
4. Charlotte - Alex Len
5. Phoenix - Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo
The guy I could see falling further than people think is Ben McLemore if Orlando opts for Burke or someone else at #2. Neither Washington or Charlotte are taking him and I think Phoenix leans toward Oladipo.
Word is McLemore has not had very good workouts and his advanced metrics are very pedestrian.[/quote]
Doesn't sound like Orlando wants Burke despite pg being their biggest need obviously. McLemore is out of shape. Teams aren't too impressed with that.
Look for the Jazz with their extra pick to move up. They've worked out at least 3 guys projected higher than their top pick, Zeller, McCollom(who I think should be their guy if they can get him) and MCW.
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]They have the top pick. Do they need a smokescreen?[/quote]
This is just how the Cavs operate. They did the same thing in 2011 with the top pick. Even though Kyrie was the obvious choice, he didn't even know for sure he was going No. 1 until they called his name at the podium.
Thing is, the Cavs also have three other picks in this draft, which they will almost certainly use to move up, possibly into the late lottery.
By keeping other franchises on their toes, they are able to obscure their real targets, not just for the No. 1 pick, but for that second First Round pick, which may end up being No. 13 owned by the Mavs.
Also, it makes teams think that maybe they have to move up to get the guy they really want. It could open up potential trade possibilities.
Point is, the Cavs have nothing to gain by releasing their real intentions. There are possible positives to throwing teams off. To be totally honest, I think they enjoy keeping everyone (especially the media) in the dark to a certain extent, as well.
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Doesn't sound like Orlando wants Burke despite pg being their biggest need obviously. McLemore is out of shape. Teams aren't too impressed with that.
Look for the Jazz with their extra pick to move up. They've worked out at least 3 guys projected higher than their top pick, Zeller, McCollom(who I think should be their guy if they can get him) and MCW.[/QUOTE]
Interestingly enough, I sort of see Burke as a Jameer Nelson caliber player on the next level. Maybe a little bit better, but not worth the No. 2 overall pick in what I think is an underrated draft class (much in the same way 2011 was underrated).
I'm not big on McLemore. His advanced stats are very pedestrian and he has trouble creating his own offense. He also looks to me like a guy who can only play the 2 on the next level. He doesn't have the ball-handling skills to spend time at point and his smallish frame will not allow him to guard the 3.
Versatility is huge in today's NBA and I just don't see it in McLemore.
Who do you see Orlando going with?
I think Zeller has become a real bargain. Before this past college season started, he was considered a sure-fire Top 3 pick. He had sort of a rough Sophomore year, but he also had a lot of focus on him from opposing teams and, even when he wasn't making the play, that attention allowed Indiana to be one of the best teams in the country.
DraftExpress has him going 11th to the Sixers. That would be a huge bargain, imo.
One last note on the Cavs... I think the lack of buzz around the Cavs and Otto Porter Jr. actually increases the likelihood that he's in the mix at No. 1. As we know from the last two drafts, the names that are "out there" for the Cavs are almost never the guys they take. Waiters didn't even visit Cleveland last year. Thompson shocked everyone at No. 4.
Porter is maybe the best all-around prospect in this draft, he plays an absolute position of need, he seems to be the kind of high character/hard worker that the Cavs have focused on filling the team with, he has terrific advanced metrics, which the Cavs notoriously put a lot of stock in... If Noel has a medical red flag, he is actually the guy I'd expect them to go with, not Len.
Don't be shocked if an article comes out 24 hours before the draft that the Cavs have serious interest in Porter, just like what happened with Waiters last year.
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Who do you see Orlando going with?
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They need a one and can probably have anyone they won't a few picks down. I'd look to trade the pick.
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]They need a one and can probably have anyone they won't a few picks down. I'd look to trade the pick.[/QUOTE]
I know they'll probably look to trade the pick, but I think it is going to be hard to do this year, unless something weird happens like the Cavs don't take Noel (still think that happens). If Noel is there, that could generate some serious interest in moving up. If he's not, I don't see it happening.
In other words, if they stay at 2, then what? It has to be McLemore or Burke, right? That seems to be the consensus amongst mocks (that I trust, at least).
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I wonder if the Thunder would move up for Len?
Westbrook
Thabo
Durant
Ibaka
Len
6th: K-Mart
That has potential to be dirty. I assume Jeremy Lamb and the 12 pick could probably get as high as 4?
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[QUOTE=UConnCeltics]I wonder if the Thunder would move up for Len?
Westbrook
Thabo
Durant
Ibaka
Len
6th: K-Mart
That has potential to be dirty. I assume Jeremy Lamb and the 12 pick could probably get as high as 4?[/QUOTE]
don't think they'll give up Lamb but PJ3 and the 12 could get them that pick
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I've honestly had a feeling that Otto Porter would go to the Cavs at #1 since the lottery. Perfect fit for the Cavs because of the way he can fit offensively with Ivring/Waiters and he gives them a big, long defender on the wing that they will need if they want to be a playoff team in the future. He is a pretty "safe" pick imo but still has a lot of great upside.
Given the Cavs tendency to ignore conventional wisdom, I would almost be surprised if the pick wasn't Porter.
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[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]I've honestly had a feeling that Otto Porter would go to the Cavs at #1 since the lottery. Perfect fit for the Cavs because of the way he can fit offensively with Ivring/Waiters and he gives them a big, long defender on the wing that they will need if they want to be a playoff team in the future. He is a pretty "safe" pick imo but still has a lot of great upside.
Given the Cavs tendency to ignore conventional wisdom, I would almost be surprised if the pick wasn't Porter.[/QUOTE]
Been saying that for a while. If there are concerns about Noel's longterm healthy, I think he will be the pick.
The lack of media hype around him being the No. 1 pick tells me that he's probably being looked at very closely by the Cavs. Since Grant took over, it has become obvious that they like playing games with the media and throw of other franchises as to their true intentions.
The guy NOT being talked about is the guy to really watch out for. Who had Thompson or Waiters to the Cavs at No. 4 in their mocks in 2011-12? Answer? No one.
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I loved Porter as a fit for Cleveland when they were drafting three, then they moved up, and it seemed like too high, but the more I look at it, I agree that there's no reason not to take him if you still believe he's the best fit. The only other options are two bigs with health concerns, and who have their limitations even when healthy. And McLemore or Olidipo both undermine last years pick in Waiters, even if I think both are better prospects, it's not as if it's by some huge margin. And both of those guys have some questions anyway, and who wants to draft a pure wing at one anyway.
Plus with the depth among bigs this year, who's to say you can't find something at 19 who while maybe a longer shot than Noel or Len, at least has some comparible skills. Adams has tons of potential, Olynek has a diverse offensive game, Deng will defend the PnR and knock down elbow jumpers on PnP, Gobert is young and longer than anyone ever even thought I've lost interest. My favorite now is Lucas Nogeira, the young Brazilian kid, who someone has to explain to me how Noel is the top overall prospect, and this kid is like a fringe first rounder on most boards, when they're such incredibly similar prospects. There's a ton of bigs in this draft.
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[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]I loved Porter as a fit for Cleveland when they were drafting three, then they moved up, and it seemed like too high, but the more I look at it, I agree that there's no reason not to take him if you still believe he's the best fit. The only other options are two bigs with health concerns, and who have their limitations even when healthy. And McLemore or Olidipo both undermine last years pick in Waiters, even if I think both are better prospects, it's not as if it's by some huge margin. And both of those guys have some questions anyway, and who wants to draft a pure wing at one anyway.
Plus with the depth among bigs this year, who's to say you can't find something at 19 who while maybe a longer shot than Noel or Len, at least has some comparible skills. Adams has tons of potential, Olynek has a diverse offensive game, Deng will defend the PnR and knock down elbow jumpers on PnP, Gobert is young and longer than anyone ever even thought I've lost interest. My favorite now is Lucas Nogeira, the young Brazilian kid, who someone has to explain to me how Noel is the top overall prospect, and this kid is like a fringe first rounder on most boards, when they're such incredibly similar prospects. There's a ton of bigs in this draft.[/QUOTE]
Yes a ton! With next years draft potentially being what is hyped up to be, do you think teams like the bulls who is trying to win now, trade next years pick (they also got that Charlotte pick which is top10 protected but I believe isn't the year after) so they can dangle potential 3 first round picks including this years first for a potential trade to bring in a victor oladipo? I know I'm thinking nba2k but it's fun to consider, imagine that bulls lineup with victor... Wow! And with mirotic coming on board the yr after.
Maybe with the suns if he's still available at #5.
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^ wow just after I write that, I read this.. [url]http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=truehoop&id=60177&wjb[/url]
I would also throw in this years 20th pick to make it happen.. But I wouldn't do it until draft day to make sure oladipo is available and throw a smoke screen at the wiz and tell em we're targeting Noel or mclemore or Len.
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I think a draft of Porter and Dieng or Nogeira is about as good as the Cavs can get. You get Nogeira as a raw developing shot blocker type big for wayyy cheaper than Noel which involves way less risk and you grab Porter who is a great fit with really good upside. Porter is the kind of player they need on the wing if they want to be a serious playoff team in the future.
I've been kind of eyeing Nogeira for the Sixers at 11. Partly because I really like him and partly because he will be a work in progress. I kind of want the Sixers to suck next season because the 2014 draft is going to be loaded.
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Someone blurted out a comp somewhere I was reading yesterday on Noel, and it stuck for me. Theo Ratliff. Most of us probably remember Theo after he had legally changed his name to Theo Ratliff's Expiring Contract, but he was a pretty good player, which is how he got that big contract. 10/7/3 at his peak, being one of the more intimidating rim protectors in the league. I'm not sure that's worth a 1 overall though.
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Theo Ratliff is perfect comparison. Lol I love the name theo!
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I don't think Theo Ratliff is worth a #1 pick. He had a few good years, but no where worth a first pick. This draft is not top heavy, but it's deep. For this draft I would not want the #1 pick, but after that it's not bad at all.
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[QUOTE=senelcoolidge]I don't think Theo Ratliff is worth a #1 pick. He had a few good years, but no where worth a first pick. This draft is not top heavy, but it's deep. For this draft I would not want the #1 pick, but after that it's not bad at all.[/QUOTE]
NO PB said Noel = Hakeem Olajuwon :D
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[QUOTE=senelcoolidge]I don't think Theo Ratliff is worth a #1 pick. He had a few good years, but no where worth a first pick. This draft is not top heavy, but it's deep. For this draft I would not want the #1 pick, but after that it's not bad at all.[/QUOTE]
This is my opinion as well. I'd not want this top pick, but I do feel like there's a ton of depth in this draft.
I was listening to Chad Ford today ... I know, but I think he's gotten a lot more interesting and better since his Darko is a cross between Wilt Chamberlain, Pele, and Muhammad Ali days ... he said a few things that interested me.
He claims that the Cleveland doctors have, who are apparently some of the best in the league, and their leading team doc is also among the two or three best knee guys in the country, have given them the green light on Noel, and as far as they're concerned, the knees are not a reason to not take him.
Cleveland brass say they don't feel like they can get a player at one who can crack next years starting lineup, which is interesting. And if that's the case, Noel makes more sense than before, because if you truely believe you're gonna have to have a guy primarily sitting anyway, why not the guy with the most upside. I'm not sure I believe their theory, but it's what he's reporting.
They dug into Noel's advanced stats some, and he really does start to look like a better prospect than Len. He is really young. Genuinely still 18. He was realy starting to play well when he got hurt. The game Len beat him up in was his first game. His shooting numbers were every bit as good as Len's as the season went on.
They talked some about Len's teammates making him hard to grade. But also wondered about his disappearing for stretches in games. He said he actually reminds him a lot of Darko the prospect, which isn't a knock considering how highly regarded he was, but the one thing about Darko was he also had a habit of mysteriously disappearing for stretches. Also, one of the knocks on Len is something that has been a consistent translator from both college and overseas to the NBA, he's not a particularly good rebounder based on the advanced numbers, rebound rate and the like. And rebounding good or bad has pretty consistently translated.
At this point everyone pretty consistently feels the top 6 are Noel, Len, Olidipo, Porter, McLemore, and Burke, but the order is almost completely fluid. It floors me that Burke is in there. Particularly ahead of Bennett. Especially since we know flat out that there's absolutely no way Cleveland or Washington would take him.
Simmons loves Olidipo and would take him first. His logic is that if this draft is such a crapshoot at the top. If the upsides are as limited as we're saying, why roll the dice on a guy becoming Kenyon Martin even if everything goes really well, when you can take Olidipo, still get a shot at some upside, and know the floor is so high. At worst he says the guy is a better Tony Allen. And by all accounts his work ethic really is that great, where you will get the best player he can be.
They both have a few issues with Porter. They likened him to Tay Prince, but not quite as long, and probably not quite as skilled. Probably a better rebounder, but otherwise not as good in most other areas. Their issue seems to be that he doesn't have skill to hang his hat on. He's just sorta good at a lot of things. I disagree with this.
Ford also assembled this interesting concept:
[QUOTE] Each year I talk to a number of NBA general managers and scouts to create my NBA draft Top 100 and Big Board. But this year I decided to go one step further: to ask those same GMs and scouts to actually rate the top 50 NBA prospects.
Below is our first "Secret NBA Draft Big Board" -- the results of the ratings and rankings from our most informed sources in the league.
We asked them to predict each player's NBA career, according to two questions: How good a prospect is he? What kind of career will he have?
About half of the NBA's 30 teams participated, rating prospects on a 0-to-10 scale. A rating of 0 meant that the player "won't make the league or will have a very minimal NBA career," while a score of 10 meant he was a "top-of-the-line, elite prospect." Our respondents were asked to rate each prospect against all such NBA prospects in recent years.
We took these scores, averaged them and prorated them on a 100-point scale. This created a consensus "wisdom of the crowd" effect, the same thing that drives our ESPN Forecast panel to great success in predicting NBA outcomes. In other words, the results below (a) are reflective of the opinion of NBA decision-makers about this year's prospects and (b) have predictive value in terms of the NBA careers of these prospects.[/QUOTE]
Olidipo wound up at the top of this list, in spite of getting no tens. That's because no one felt like he'd be less than a seven, and almost everyone felt he'd be an 8/9. So the guess is no bust potential, and a quality starter to all star by all accounted for. McLemore on the other hand had a 10, and also only went as low as 7, but he got more 7s, pushing his average down to third overall. Noel finished second, mainly because one GM gave him a four, who much really have concerns over the health.
Bennett was fourth ranging 6-9. Porter fifth ranging 6-10, but obviously got a few more toward the bottom end to push him below Bennett, however he Noel and McLemore were the only players to get 10s from anyone. Len was next ranging 9-4. Burke was 9, which makes him going top 6 feel like a reach, especially since he's only fractions ahead of MCW, who probably falls into the early teens.
Just felt like an interesting exercise.
Both guys also felt like this was a rare draft with enough limitations on upside, and enough parity among prospects, to make reaching for positional fit make much more sense than it normally does, something I completely agree with.
Jeff Withey and Mohammad are both plummetting down draft boards from their respective spots a month ago. Neither of which surprise me at all, because both were among my least favorite prospects coming in. Mohammad may even fall out of lotto, while Withey is just holding onto first round status.
Simmons' draft interview videos you can find on youtube, and they've been really interesting. You can get a sense of personality even from a fifteen minute edited interview, that you know these guys have been coached up for. Having the noodle to say the right thing, even if it's not what you believe, is at least a sign that you have the noodle to do that at least. Mohammad for instance just gave off a bad vibe.
I find myself really into this draft because of it's weirdness. I don't think it's a great draft, but the depth of potential rotational players makes this feel more interesting than most to me.
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CJ McCollum's interview with Simmons and Rose was really good. Seems like a really smart player who can contribute off the bench as a combo guard right away. I question his ability to defend PGs at the next level but I like him a lot.
Oladipo seems to be a really confident kid and part of that is probably due to his work ethic and defense. He is confident in his prep and work he puts into his game and his defensive ability gives him a certain amount of fearlessness most likely.
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[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]kind of want the Sixers to suck next season because the 2014 draft is going to be loaded.[/QUOTE]
heh I was thinking the same thing
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Noel is not Theo Ratliff, yeesh
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[QUOTE=Nastradamus]Noel is not Theo Ratliff, yeesh[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Noel might not even reach the level of Ratliff.
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[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]CJ McCollum's interview with Simmons and Rose was really good. Seems like a really smart player who can contribute off the bench as a combo guard right away. I question his ability to defend PGs at the next level but I like him a lot.
Oladipo seems to be a really confident kid and part of that is probably due to his work ethic and defense. He is confident in his prep and work he puts into his game and his defensive ability gives him a certain amount of fearlessness most likely.[/QUOTE]
big fan of CJ. legit long range shooter. sort of reminds me of harden, in that he can step back if defenders go under the screen or take it to the hoop a bit if they fight over. doesn't have the passing ability or craftiness of harden but there's similarities. i think he can be a major steal if he gets picked beyond the lottery. the main concern i have for him is his lateral quickness for defensive purposes but on a loaded team? this guy can blossom.
he and KD-P are the two potential steals i can see in this draft. i seriously see KD-P being the next shaun livingston. if anyone remembers how good that guy was before his injury, you already know what that means.
what do you folks think of anthony bennett? i really have a hard time seeing how his game transitions to the pros. i think he has some offensive game but i see some major defensive liabilities. he's a big that can shoot. is he a slightly better version of mehmet okur or peak rasheed wallace w/out temper problems? if it's the latter, some team is going to get a gem. doesn't have much of a post game to speak of but neither did sheed early on. don't know if he can develop but hey, this is why i think he's a big question mark. i really don't know how to peg this guy.
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Bennet is a tweener. Tweeners have a hard time making it in the league or being good. Not fast enough to defend SF's and not big enough for PF's.