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Clippersfan86 01-22-2013 04:07 PM

Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/01/2...an-scalabrine/

So remember that "Scallenge" Brian had? Where he said he got sick of people running their mouths and challenged the best of Boston to come play him 1 on 1? Well...


"Scalabrine — who spent the last few seasons of his career seen as the “human victory cigar” — easily defeated all four of his opponents, throwing down monstrous jams and sinking smooth jumpers as he beat them all by a combined score of 44-6."


ganja0710 01-22-2013 04:09 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
Weren't there people on this forum saying they could beat the worst player in the league? I even heard somebody say they could take Toney Douglas. :oldlol: Take notes, kids.

Clippersfan86 01-22-2013 04:10 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ganja0710
Weren't there people on this forum saying they could beat the worst player in the league? I even heard somebody say they could take Toney Douglas. :oldlol: Take notes, kids.


It's very humbling for sure for people. Even if you played college ball... the lowest NBA players will push your shit in and demolish you.

SpecialQue 01-22-2013 04:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ganja0710
Weren't there people on this forum saying they could beat the worst player in the league? I even heard somebody say they could take Toney Douglas. :oldlol: Take notes, kids.


Right here:

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285795

The dumbest thread I've ever seen on the internet.

Clippersfan86 01-22-2013 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecialQue
Right here:

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285795

The dumbest thread I've ever seen on the internet.


:roll:

ballup 01-22-2013 04:29 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
There's a reason as to why he's the GOAT of basketball. :bowdown:

andgar923 01-22-2013 04:32 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
I tried watching some of that.

ZZZZZ

NattyPButter 01-22-2013 04:38 PM

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Is this a joke? All I saw was 3 middle aged white guys.

Clippersfan86 01-22-2013 04:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NattyPButter
Is this a joke? All I saw was 3 middle aged white guys.


That was the 3 guys who hosted the event and that he beat 1 vs 3 for an 11-1 score. Not the guys he played 1 on 1. The younger guys were his opponents two of which played college ball.

fpliii 01-22-2013 04:40 PM

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Those are Boston's best street ballers? Damn...

Respect to Scal though.

ProfessorMurder 01-22-2013 04:43 PM

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Hilarious, and expected. Scal's no joke. In one of the last C's games he was color commenter on, Gorman called Scal a civilian and Scal took offense to it... Then he goes and shits on these real civilians.

LJJ 01-22-2013 04:43 PM

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Nice.

I don't know where the hell they got that second guy though? I can sort of see the others to do decent in a pickup game, but that second guy was god awful.

Clippersfan86 01-22-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LJJ
Nice.

I don't know where the hell they got that second guy though? I can sort of see the others to do decent in a pickup game, but that second guy was god awful.


Okay maybe not the best... but better than most of us on ISH probably (1st and 3rd guy). I read that two of them played college ball, including 1 at Syracuse so obviously they aren't that scrubby.

Rake2204 01-22-2013 04:49 PM

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I just finished watching the first matchup. For those who didn't read or watch, Scalabrine's first opponent was Matt Tomaszewski, a 6'8'' walk-on at Syracuse last year. The game was to 11 with a 10 second shot clock and stoppage in play after each shot. Both Matt and Scalabrine seemed to leave a lot of shots out there. Tomaszewski looked kind of awkward at times, then not bad at others (ex: air balled some good looks, then drilled a few lefty hooks). Scalabrine didn't exactly dominate, but then again, the other guy was 6'8'', so regardless of his skill, it's a moderate sized body for Scal to work against.

Clippersfan86 01-22-2013 04:51 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rake2204
I just finished watching the first matchup. For those who didn't read or watch, Scalabrine's first opponent was Matt Tomaszewski, a 6'8'' walk-on at Syracuse last year. The game was to 11 with a 10 second shot clock and stoppage in play after each shot. Both Matt and Scalabrine seemed to leave a lot of shots out there. Tomaszewski looked kind of awkward at times, then not bad at others (ex: air balled some good looks, then drilled a few lefty hooks). Scalabrine didn't exactly dominate, but then again, the other guy was 6'8'', so regardless of his skill, it's a moderate sized body for Scal to work against.


I wonder if we took the best college players and put them against the role players of the NBA though? Now THAT one I think a lot of the college players would win.

Rake2204 01-22-2013 05:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
I wonder if we took the best college players and put them against the role players of the NBA though? Now THAT one I think a lot of the college players would win.

Definitely. The first video is a great example of how one-on-one works. I think we could all comfortably say Brian Scalabrine was way, way better at the game of basketball than the Syracuse walk-on. However, if Scalabrine shot as cold as he did while Matt got unusually hot, we could have been looking at a different outcome, but it wouldn't have changed a thing in terms of how good Brian is in comparison to that guy.

One-on-one is a very limited scope of things. Even if you're normally a great player, if you miss a few shots you normally make and your opponent is at least not the worst player ever in comparison to you, it could spell trouble.

Clippersfan86 01-22-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rake2204
Definitely. The first video is a great example of how one-on-one works. I think we could all comfortably say Brian Scalabrine was way, way better at the game of basketball than the Syracuse walk-on. However, if Scalabrine shot as cold as he did while Matt got unusually hot, we could have been looking at a different outcome, but it wouldn't have changed a thing in terms of how good Brian is in comparison to that guy. One-on-one is a very limited scope of things.


Agreed. In other words 1 on 1 doesn't mean shit in a 5 on 5 sport. I guess it's more satisfying to beat them up 1 on 1 though to a guy getting trolled on Twitter.

Ken_Masters 01-22-2013 05:15 PM

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I consider myself a very good one on one player, and when playing a game of 21 i usually win or come close to winning. However, in a game of 5 on 5 i'm terrible. I don't know how to play with others, and i never take over and lead my team to wins. This is why i have more appreciation for guys who can dominate in a 5 on 5 because it takes more effort to play well individually while also leading your team to a win.

Rake2204 01-22-2013 05:20 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LJJ
Nice.

I don't know where the hell they got that second guy though? I can sort of see the others to do decent in a pickup game, but that second guy was god awful.

I surely didn't mistake the second guy for a college basketball player, but it didn't look like he was a stranger to the game of basketball though. He's not going to be the king of any high level street courts, but I thought he might be a solid representation of the "everyman" out there: the guy who plays ball a lot, stands about 6'4''ish and has some skills but is not elite.

I thought he best represented the issues the very vast majority of us would all be facing if we were to have a one-on-one showdown with Brian Scalabrine. For starters, it looked like the 2nd guy came to the realization right off the bat that his opponent (Scalabrine) was 6'9'' 250. Right away that'd be one of the top 5 largest players I've ever competed against in my life, likely the same for Jake (the 2nd guy). As such, I think that guy realized he wasn't going to be able to overpower Scal en route to the basket. Further, Brian surely isn't slow on his feet in comparison to normal folk. As a result, that second fellow seemed to settle for a lot of jumpers, which also seemed rushed. My guess is he was not used to trying to shoot over a 6'9'' NBA player and was worried he would have his jumper blocked if he didn't rush.

The bigger issue was defense, in my opinion. I'm 6'4'' 170, so I could see myself in this guy just in terms of defense. What would I do with someone like Brian Scalabrine standing on the arc in triple threat? If I give him even minimal space, he'll rise and pull - just as he did with Jake. But the minute I closed space off enough to not allow him to shoot over my small frame, he'd only need a half a step in order to put himself in position to just lower his shoulder, shield me off, and finish at the rim with a minimally contested layup.

Size alone would be the biggest quandary for 99% of the folks who'd want to face Brian Scalabrine in one-on-one.

Rake2204 01-22-2013 05:53 PM

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Separately, the third opponent didn't seem to do a bad job. He apparently played minor league ball overseas and had a D-League tryout but did not make it through. Again though, he was 6'2'', so he was in trouble from the start, though he played Scalabrine tough, pushing Scal on defense like he was an offensive lineman. The issue again though, was the height and weight advantage. Both players seemed to miss their first five shots a piece, but Brian always had the ability to shoot over the top when he wanted.

I think I personally would have struggled with two things: the NBA three-point line and the 10-second shot clock. You could see a lot of times where players would probably just pull back out and reset if they were playing a normal game of one-on-one or 21, but had to resort to firing a desperation fallaway to beat the clock. Then again, Scalabrine had that same shot clock so all is fair.

And in terms of NBA threes, I've never had a reason to fire them except for rare occasions, and that seemed true for these guys as well. Whereas normally I have a defender guarding me at the high school or college line, being guarded at the NBA stripe by a 6'9'' guy with good feet would be double trouble, because I wouldn't be a consistent threat out there, thus allowing the defender to sag as he pleased.

kNicKz 01-22-2013 05:58 PM

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I said this would happen and received like 8 negs

kNicKz 01-22-2013 06:05 PM

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he beat them all by a combined score of 44-6.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rake2204
Scalabrine didn't exactly dominate



:biggums:

Rake2204 01-22-2013 06:36 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kNicKz
:biggums:

I was referring only to his first matchup when I made the "He didn't exactly dominate" remark. Yes, he won by a large margin (11-3) but it was more of a grind than it was a dominant display of power. He muscled home his first five shots, but then missed seven of his next ten. Scalabrine was unquestionably the better player, but he didn't make that first matchup look like a cake walk.

On the flip side, I thought his first opponent had some tough luck misses out there and resorted to the step back NBA three way too much (half of his shots were NBA threes). Then again, he made a couple of tough ones, so I guess it evens out.

I think the other games went pretty quickly by comparison. The third matchup started off pretty roughly (and the 4th as well, I think) but Scalabrine was able to find a groove in short order. He missed five of his first six shots in game 3, then hit 8 of his next 10 to win.

ZaaaaaH 01-22-2013 06:41 PM

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Great Post bra !

White Mamaba For Sure :bowdown:

Euroleague 01-22-2013 07:49 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
All that video did was show how bad Scalabrine is. Those guys he played against would be mediocre players at any decent park.

Derka 01-22-2013 08:01 PM

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Was listening to Toucher and Rich this morning and they said the combined score was 55-7. I think he played another warm-up game before he took the 3v1 and the three 1v1's.

Either way, Scal ruined those dudes.

The Choken One 01-22-2013 08:03 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ganja0710
Weren't there people on this forum saying they could beat the worst player in the league? I even heard somebody say they could take Toney Douglas. :oldlol: Take notes, kids.

That thread was hilarious. No one on this site would even score a basket against anyone in the NBA. LOL @ retards who actually think different.

Rake2204 01-22-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Choken One
That thread was hilarious. No one on this site would even score a basket against anyone in the NBA. LOL @ retards who actually think different.

I trust most folks would be dismantled like the second guy in the video. However, every squirrel finds a nut, so I do not believe everyone would go scoreless.

The Choken One 01-22-2013 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rake2204
I trust most folks would be dismantled like the second guy in the video. However, every squirrel finds a nut, so I do not believe everyone would go scoreless.

Good point. A KAJ pray hook would fall every once in a while. :D

Calabis 01-22-2013 08:23 PM

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You should here this mf'er I know. Although he was a good ball player in his day, he really believes Kobe and MJ could not guard him:roll: He said he would be too quick for them. My reply, mf'er you ain't ever seen a 6'6 dude with that type of ability and I'm pretty damn sure you are not quicker than either of them. I said if you were that good, then you should just go shit on everyone right now. But then his excuses start rolling :facepalm

strifed169 01-22-2013 08:35 PM

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props to Scal for doing this, not only did he have his own rep on the line but pro baller's as well, which is why we don't see many of these am I right?

iamgine 01-22-2013 08:42 PM

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The reason he dominated is because of his strength and length. That's why the best 1 on 1 players are mobile big guys. KAJ, Shaq, Hakeem, Yao would dominate the likes of MJ, Kobe, Iverson, Wade. Simply because it's too easy to just post them up all day.

kNicKz 01-22-2013 08:45 PM

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It should also be brought up that scal is retired and in his mid 30's while these dudes looked like they were in their early to mid twenties. How do you think a 26 year old NBA active scal would look in this challenge?

reppy 01-22-2013 10:51 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
I played some church pick-up ball games against a dude that played semi-pro in Europe.

Guy was huge and had handles of a PG compared to the rest of us. I would whack him as hard as I could when he was going up for layups and it wouldn't even phase him. To make it even worse, he would just play on when I called "foul!" even when my team got the rebound.

The scary thing was I also got the feeling he was only playing at about 25% intensity. He really scaled it back. He'd be just goofing off drilling 3 pointers from 5 feet back.

I can only imagine going up against a guy like Scal that has real NBA experience.

Pushxx 01-22-2013 11:01 PM

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People don't realize it's all about strength.

Mr. Jabbar 01-22-2013 11:09 PM

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those dudes should not be ashamed, they lost to the best :bowdown: #whitemamba

Supersonics33 01-22-2013 11:16 PM

Re: Scalebrine DESTROYS Boston's best street ballers
 
Seeing as how this involves Kobe, I'm sure most ISH members have seen this one on one video. I know it's Bow Wow, but just look at how tired he gets just trying to hold some kind of ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hDh2U1hVrw

red1 01-22-2013 11:29 PM

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atta boy scal

Rake2204 01-22-2013 11:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by strifed169
props to Scal for doing this, not only did he have his own rep on the line but pro baller's as well, which is why we don't see many of these am I right?

Truth. I was actually wondering what Scalabrine was thinking throughout. I wonder if he was at all worried the 6'8'' fellow might be able to make a match of things. Similarly, it looked like he was worn down a little bit by the fourth game (and rightfully so). He got blocked and fell behind early, I wonder if there was even a trace of doubt at that point.

And you're right, I believe most players would not engage in something like this because it's very high risk and low reward.

gigantes 01-23-2013 01:10 AM

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didn't watch the 3rd guy, but i would have to think that a lot of small PG's here and there would be able to routinely get to the hoop against scallops. especially if they had a solid long-range jumper.

not a knock against scallops... but he, and even average NBA big men would be at a natural foot-speed disadvantage against some of these lightning-quick guys we've all seen and played against from time to time...


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