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Rameek 07-17-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by knickscity
I'm in full agreement, but it's done now.

It's the complaining that's hilarious at this point.

No one can endorse having Melo and Amare, then complain about the fact the team has no talent behind them.

Even the two top 5 players in the game knew to take less, and had no problem letting Bosh make more than them.

knickcity i thought writing in red would get the point across but obviously not....:roll: :applause:

franchize 07-17-2012 05:32 PM

Re: "State you position on the Knicks" thread
 
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Originally Posted by Rameek
impossible buying every single player.

I said I agreed with signing Melo and Amare. How is two players everybody? When did I EVER EEEEEEEVVVER EVER EVER say I agreed with the Tyson Chandler signing?

Look, I don't know how I can I be any more clear, but let me make this 100% clear, once and for all, for the record. These are the moves I was ok with:

The Melo trade
Drafting Shumpert (even though I wanted Brooks)
Signing Amare (which the verdict is still out on)
Re-signing Felton for cheap
Bringing back JR for cheap

That's IT!

Where did this notion that I like the Knicks moves come from lol?

knickscity 07-17-2012 06:35 PM

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I'm sorry, but you can't complain about a 3 mil signing if you're perfectly fine with two max cats that are not top 10 in the league.

The issue is squarely at the top and that truly affects the bottom.

I honestly have very little issue with what the team has to do to make themselves competitive.

My only issue is I want them to attempt with honesty, make "THE MOVE", the game changer.

Acquiring a player who wanted to be here is way too easy.

Either show the money or fork over whatever the other team wants.

All you need is someone who knows cap structure and the cba, the rest anyone on this board could have done.

franchize 07-17-2012 07:28 PM

Re: "State you position on the Knicks" thread
 
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Originally Posted by knickscity
I'm sorry, but you can't complain about a 3 mil signing if you're perfectly fine with two max cats that are not top 10 in the league.

The issue is squarely at the top and that truly affects the bottom.

I honestly have very little issue with what the team has to do to make themselves competitive.

My only issue is I want them to attempt with honesty, make "THE MOVE", the game changer.

Acquiring a player who wanted to be here is way too easy.

Either show the money or fork over whatever the other team wants.

All you need is someone who knows cap structure and the cba, the rest anyone on this board could have done.


Well, first of all, I think Melo is a top 10 player in this league. Secondly, Melo n Amare are perennial allstars. Its really no comparison. Get players that can play! Period! If we go over the cap, so be it. But if you do, it better be worth it. The verdict is still out on Amare. After this year, if hes still on his BS, he goes on my sh*t list too!

Scoooter 07-17-2012 07:32 PM

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What would it take to get Melo on your shit list?

knickscity 07-17-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoooter
What would it take to get Melo on your shit list?

Can't speak for franchize, but for me......

He has to be a legit MVP candidate next season, by any means necessary.

And definitely needs to be in the top 3 in scoring.

Otherwise I would be dissappointed.

Scoooter 07-17-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by knickscity
Can't speak for franchize, but for me......

He has to be a legit MVP candidate next season, by any means necessary.

And definitely needs to be in the top 3 in scoring.

Otherwise I would be dissappointed.

This I don't really get. If he puts up good individual stats at the expense of his teammates, what's going on? He's already proven that he can can score the ball when he gets a lot of shots and everyone else just stands around and watches. You might get top 3 scoring that way, but is that a good team?

Are the Knicks going to contend for a championship by building the 2001 Sixers model around Carmelo?

knickscity 07-17-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoooter
This I don't really get. If he puts up good individual stats at the expense of his teammates, what's going on? He's already proven that he can can score the ball when he gets a lot of shots and everyone else just stands around and watches. You might get top 3 scoring that way, but is that a good team?

Are the Knicks going to contend for a championship by building the 2001 Sixers model around Carmelo?

Didn't the Sixers make the finals when Iverson won?

You wouldn't take that?

Scoooter 07-17-2012 10:55 PM

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I didn't say I wouldn't take it, I asked if it would work. I was under the impression that you believed winning in the modern NBA required two or three stars.

bluechox2 07-18-2012 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoooter
What would it take to get Melo on your shit list?


has to lead the knicks to a better than 50+win record
have a top 3 scoring and 50% fg%
lead us to a series win

if not...he needs to go

knickscity 07-18-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoooter
I didn't say I wouldn't take it, I asked if it would work. I was under the impression that you believed winning in the modern NBA required two or three stars.

I believe Miami has set the bar of what teams have to put on the floor to compete.

And the only team that truly has a chance is us.

You won't beat them with unproven talent or guys trying to jump start their careers.

I truly felt OKC would give them a run for it, and they truthfully got demolished due to Durant primarily having to actually defend and score, and he failed miserably at it.

Bano114 07-18-2012 04:02 AM

Re: "State you position on the Knicks" thread
 
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Originally Posted by franchize
Well, first of all, I think Melo is a top 10 player in this league. Secondly, Melo n Amare are perennial allstars. Its really no comparison. Get players that can play! Period! If we go over the cap, so be it. But if you do, it better be worth it. The verdict is still out on Amare. After this year, if hes still on his BS, he goes on my sh*t list too!


:wtf: After this year? He has til the trade deadline at best to turn his shit around. If he comes back in to this season playing the way he has been playing he's got to go.

Felton might be good for him to turn things around but...Fat F*ck Felton needs to trim the title he has first.

Alot is riding on that combo right there.

Scoooter 07-18-2012 05:59 AM

Re: "State you position on the Knicks" thread
 
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Originally Posted by knickscity
I believe Miami has set the bar of what teams have to put on the floor to compete.

And the only team that truly has a chance is us.

You won't beat them with unproven talent or guys trying to jump start their careers.

I truly felt OKC would give them a run for it, and they truthfully got demolished due to Durant primarily having to actually defend and score, and he failed miserably at it.

I think the Lakers would take the Heat in a series. And if they swap Bynum for Dwight? Goodnight.

The Knicks I don't think are anywhere near that tier.

bluechox2 07-18-2012 06:13 AM

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i just want a season where we dont suck straight off the bat and require some luck towards the end to make it


atleast want to enjoy winning early and keep it strong throughout
want to be known as the it team throughout on espn

amare needs to bring it like 10/11 season and stop pussaying around

Rameek 07-18-2012 09:45 AM

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The knicks go no where if the 2 highest paid players don't play both ends of the floor most nights.


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