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I would like Chauncey to start at PG and KCP start at SG, with Jennings coming off the bench and getting around 35 mins a game.
Think this would allow the Pistons to work the bigs while spreading the floor when the game starts, then as one of the bigs comes out to sub, you don't need as much space and can bring in Jennings for instant offense.
Come on man, Jennings isn't coming off the bench.
[QUOTE=Nastradamus]Come on man, Jennings isn't coming off the bench.[/QUOTE]
Didn't say it was going to happen and highly doubt it will. Jennings is basically guaranteed the starting spot. But ideally, I think that's how the rotation should work out.
Cause if you go talent, how does Stuckey start with Jennings? Add to that Smith Monroe and Drummond clogging the middle and you got a big traffic jam in Motown.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVC-5Pj2Sfo]"Maurice Cheeks and Chauncey Billups talk about the prevalence of having two point guards in the NBA today." (Video)[/url]
Kinda sounds like cognitive dissonance. :lol
[QUOTE=ZMonkey11]
Cause if you go talent, how does Stuckey start with Jennings? Add to that Smith Monroe and Drummond clogging the middle and you got a big traffic jam in Motown.[/QUOTE]
Because if you do go talent those are the two best for the positions right now. I think KCP has a chance to start but not at the beginning of the season. He's going to really have to work hard for it though. I think unless there's a significant injury there's no way Chauncey starts. Even Chauncey has said as much in interviews. He has came out and said that when he signed it was before the Jennings trade, which changes the situation. Jennings for sure will start at PG. I think Stuckey has SG almost locked up unless he really messes up in the preseason.
Unfortunately - I think we are going to start Billups,
I love him, but at 37 years old, his time is best spent coming off the bench and leading that second unit at either guard position. We need someone a bit bigger and more athletic to guard the opposing teams best guards as Jennings is only tiny.
I would love KCP to start, yes he is a bit raw, but give him a crack out of the blocks, let him learn on the job, mesh with the starters. He has the size, defensive potential and shooting potential to become a very solid SG in this league. I love his attitude and seems to have a bit of a killer instinct about him...
But Billups will start,
[QUOTE=Aussie Dunker]Unfortunately - I think we are going to start Billups,
I love him, but at 37 years old, his time is best spent coming off the bench and leading that second unit at either guard position. We need someone a bit bigger and more athletic to guard the opposing teams best guards as Jennings is only tiny.
I would love KCP to start, yes he is a bit raw, but give him a crack out of the blocks, let him learn on the job, mesh with the starters. He has the size, defensive potential and shooting potential to become a very solid SG in this league. I love his attitude and seems to have a bit of a killer instinct about him...
But Billups will start,[/QUOTE]
If last night was any indication it will be Billups. I think he's probably a bit too old too. They must like his outside shooting and must be hoping the big guys help him out on D. I don't like the idea of it. I love that he came back to Detroit and I think he can contribute quite a bit. I just think his best years are behind him. KCP clearly can't start yet. He was good defensively but he's so inconsistent with his shot yet that he needs to get comfortable scoring in the NBA first.
I almost think KCP can be a defensive specialist at the 2 guard, and his offense can develop in the years to come. I would like to give him plenty of time with the starters so he does get easy looks when they do collapse on the bigs or defense the iso of Jennings... The shots the KCP has been missing are not open looks. He has a better handle than I first thought too,
This would be such an easy question to answer if Stuckey had an outside shot...
Well, it's definitely not Stuckey now.
[QUOTE]UPDATE: Rodney Stuckey has suffered a fracture of the distal phalanx on his right thumb. He is scheduled to have surgery on Friday and a timeline for his return will be determined following that procedure.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing that makes him out for the next couple months. Billups will be the starter and KCP will back him up. Singler could get some minutes there too.
6 weeks out for Stuckey according to the latest, not good - but lets see who steps up, KCP Singler or Billups...
On another note, let us say the Kings took Burke with #7, and Mclemore fell to us at #8 (which almost nearly happened) Would he automatically be starting at the 2 guard for us considering he was arguably going to be drafted as high as #1?...
[QUOTE=Aussie Dunker]6 weeks out for Stuckey according to the latest, not good - but lets see who steps up, KCP Singler or Billups...
On another note, let us say the Kings took Burke with #7, and Mclemore fell to us at #8 (which almost nearly happened) Would he automatically be starting at the 2 guard for us considering he was arguably going to be drafted as high as #1?...[/QUOTE]
I'm not certain he would be. He hasn't been that impressive yet either. There was far more hype around him though so I think that kind of helps McLemore's case. I think in Sacramento he'll have a hard time starting over Thornton so I think here it would've been tough for him to start right away. If McLemore was here though I think the fans would be really upset if he wasn't starting.
I wish the Pistons would just trade him already. He will be a free agent after the season is up thankfully. I actually wouldn't mind having a guard like Evan Turner at the 2.
[QUOTE=idizzle]I wish the Pistons would just trade him already. He will be a free agent after the season is up thankfully. I actually wouldn't mind having a guard like Evan Turner at the 2.[/QUOTE]
Evan Turner? I would say Stuckey has been more productive than he has. Depending on how fast KCP catches on to things I think Stuckey is one of the guys they will use as trade bait this year though.
I think I would be the minority but I really like Turners game and his upside - I think he will have a slow but long progression - seems like a good complimentary piece, kind of like Iguadala without the elite athleticism or elite defense. Last year was a 13.3/6.3/4.3 guy with a steal and 37% from deep...
In saying all of that, not sure he is the best fit for our team - although I would swap him for Stuckey in a heart beat, as this kid still has a lot of room to grow...
[QUOTE=Aussie Dunker]I almost think KCP can be a defensive specialist at the 2 guard, and his offense can develop in the years to come. I would like to give him plenty of time with the starters so he does get easy looks when they do collapse on the bigs or defense the iso of Jennings... The shots the KCP has been missing are not open looks. He has a better handle than I first thought too,
This would be such an easy question to answer if Stuckey had an outside shot...[/QUOTE]
Yea I want to see him be the defensive specialist on the starting squad and spot up 3 to spread the floor. Then have a rotation of Billups coming in at point and have Jennings pop in to the 2. But I don't know. Cheeks will figure it out, he's smart.
[QUOTE=ZMonkey11]Yea I want to see him be the defensive specialist on the starting squad and spot up 3 to spread the floor. Then have a rotation of Billups coming in at point and have Jennings pop in to the 2. But I don't know. Cheeks will figure it out, he's smart.[/QUOTE]
Billups would be the 2 and Jennings would be the PG.
[QUOTE=Aussie Dunker]
On another note, let us say the Kings took Burke with #7, and Mclemore fell to us at #8 (which almost nearly happened) Would he automatically be starting at the 2 guard for us considering he was arguably going to be drafted as high as #1?...[/QUOTE]
I watched the Lakers vs. Kings tonight and McLemore looked like he should be starting. He's looked better tonight than he previously did. I think he'll probably be the starting SG there game 1.
[QUOTE=dd24]I watched the Lakers vs. Kings tonight and McLemore looked like he should be starting. He's looked better tonight than he previously did. I think he'll probably be the starting SG there game 1.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I think if we snagged him at #8 we would start him too purely because he was touted to go as high as #1... He is viewed more of a player that can turn a franchise around compared to KCP's potential to be a great complimentary piece...
Sometimes I wish Kings took Burke or that Smart stayed in the draft so we could of got a potential #1 at pick 8 just because of the value it would of been, a potential #1 slipping to 8...
But I am happy with KCP - I have a good feeling about him...
[QUOTE=Aussie Dunker]Yeah I think if we snagged him at #8 we would start him too purely because he was touted to go as high as #1... He is viewed more of a player that can turn a franchise around compared to KCP's potential to be a great complimentary piece...
Sometimes I wish Kings took Burke or that Smart stayed in the draft so we could of got a potential #1 at pick 8 just because of the value it would of been, a potential #1 slipping to 8...
But I am happy with KCP - I have a good feeling about him...[/QUOTE]
Absolutely it would've been almost insane if McLemore would've dropped to us. Especially after we had guys like Knight, Monroe, and Drummond fall to us. The Kings always seem to get that guy (McLemore, Cousins) lol. The big thing too is we aren't going to have a first rounder this year too so getting McLemore would've really finished out our lineup for us. Anyway around it I'm fine with KCP too. I think he's a good consolation. We just have to cross our fingers and hope he turns out being the better player. We have to remember he was the higher rated guy coming out of high school. He has a lot of potential too. I just need to see the guy knock down his shots consistently.
#8 + Stuckey
for
#7
We should of offered this...
we may have. They would have rejected it immediately. What do they want Stuckey's 8 million dollar contract for and how are they going to fit it under the cap?
I was thinking we probably made an offer to a few teams to move up once we saw McLemore slipping. I'm guessing it didn't happen because there were guys that other teams wanted in those spots too.
The SG of the draft that I was wrong about so far is Oladipo. Even though it's only preseason he has played extremely well.
KCP looked better yesterday. He still didn't shoot all that well, but he did look like he has promise and could potentially start. The preseason is so tough to judge. Remember when Austin Daye used to average over 20 in the preseason then going into the season he couldn't get it done? Yesterday he had another good preseason game, lol. I don't think we'll know exactly what we have with KCP until real games start to get played.
Yeah KCP played well, but how about Tony Mitchell!! Looks like a more versatile maxiell out there yesterday, 10 points 10 rebounds, super athletic... I like this kid,
Also, Bynum has been tearing it up, 28 points first game, 11 assists in his second game - undeniable chemistry with Drummod... Him and Stuckey's game both rely around penetration, neither can shoot very well. Stuckey has size but Bynum has court vision. Before this season I was thinking we don't need both. With Bynum's stellar play in pre-season, do you think we are able to trade Stuckey away and play a 4 guards rotation of Jennings, KCP, Bynum, Billups, or will that be too small? Singler can help out with size at the 2 if need be...
I just don't think we need both Stuckey and Bynum....
[QUOTE=Aussie Dunker]Yeah KCP played well, but how about Tony Mitchell!! Looks like a more versatile maxiell out there yesterday, 10 points 10 rebounds, super athletic... I like this kid,[/QUOTE]
Yup, he looked like Daye in the preseason lol
[QUOTE=dd24]Yup, he looked like Daye in the preseason lol[/QUOTE]
haha good call.
If anything - I like this kids attitude, toughness and athleticism. Daye relied too much on raw skill, atleast Mitchell is a battler...
Not expecting him to be a huge part of the rotation this year, but wouldn't mind seeing him get a few minutes here and there...
Drummond
Smith
Mitchell
Hands down the most athletic front court if we see this lineup at some stage through the year...
You are the first person to say that 2nd rounders usually don't work out or last, and you were spot on with English. But I truly think Mitchell has a chance to be a colt bench player for us - he did have lottery like potential after all... We shall see...
Mitchell is a guy who has a chance. Even though he's a 2nd round pick I do like him. I think he'll get a few minutes this year. I'm sure he'll end up in the D League for a while too, but I think we'll see him on the court some for the Pistons too.
Stuckey will be a free agent this year so he might be heading out the door anyway.