If Kobe Can't Win It All in 2013 Then He Should NOT Be Top 10

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Just calling it like it is.

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Kobe putting up MVP numbers in his 17th season @ age 34, not the smartest thread to bump really...

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]Kobe putting up MVP numbers in his 17th season @ age 34, not the smartest thread to bump really...[/QUOTE]

29 5 & 5 on 49% shooting at age 34 in his 17th season





















Hurts Legacy

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]Kobe putting up MVP numbers in his 17th season @ age 34, not the smartest thread to bump really...[/QUOTE]

His leadership is being called into question.

*empty stats.

Even Iverson's worst season seems more legit than Kobe's right now.

If this team ultimately fails to win a ring it won't keep Kobe out of the top ten for me, but it will keep him safely behind Duncan. Duncan would be killing it next to Howard or Gasol.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24][B]His leadership is being called into question[/B].

*empty stats.
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by who? bigveto? derivative? you?

:lol

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]by who? bigveto? derivative? you?

:lol[/QUOTE]

This team is way too stack for Kobe to fail. Even a Laker's fan like you would admit to this, hence your frustration.

I've never understood the idea of a player going lower on an all time list without another player surpassing them.

:oldlol: OP stfu even if Kobe won you'd make threads about how "he's not top ten of all time because he needed a stacked team to win"



Wtf is up with the bottom feeders running the show here?

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]by who? bigveto? derivative? you?

:lol[/QUOTE]


Probably all the same damn guy

[QUOTE=chazzy]I've never understood the idea of a player going lower on an all time list without another player surpassing them.[/QUOTE]

I think it makes sense if you're counting active players. Their careers evolve and parts of their legacy become either additions or subtractions.

To me, Kobe is the third best guard ever and #8 all time. I have him behind MJ, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt and Duncan and in that order. I go back and forth between spots 5-8. Bird, Wilt, Duncan and Kobe are all kind of in the same tier to me. If Kobe does however end his last great run with a dysfunctional failure, then yeah, it does effect how I rank him without say, LeBron jumping into the top 10.

He doesn't slide so much as his feet get stuck in cement to me.

Kobe is playing very well as a 34 year old guy on his 17th season. I didn't expect him to play this well.

With that said, it is shocking that the Lakers are doing this bad, but I'm sure they'll do better later on this season. I rather rate players in tiers than in actual numbers, but I guess numbers are more fun to debate about even though I don't think it's all that accurate.

*Bump again for making a legit point.

hypocrisy at its finest. Lebron can't win with a dominant big like Shaq

[QUOTE=G-Funk]hypocrisy at its finest. Lebron can't win with a dominant big like Shaq[/QUOTE]

negged. wish trolls could come up with good material again.

Kobe failed it seems.