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Jeremy Lin and the ROckets played well today!
I know it was against the crappy Pistons, but still, JLin, 8 assists, ZERO turnovers, in 25 mins of play?
Not bad :applause:
Ofc, James Harden, and Asik did good as well, and i loved seeing Terrence Jones out on the floor for the first time, same with D-Mo
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Re: Jeremy Lin and the ROckets played well today!
If you want to look like world beaters, play against the 2013 Detroit Pistons.
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[QUOTE=blood yes]I know it was against the crappy Pistons, but still, JLin, 8 assists, ZERO turnovers, in 25 mins of play?
Not bad :applause:
Ofc, James Harden, and Asik did good as well, and i loved seeing Terrence Jones out on the floor for the first time, same with D-Mo[/QUOTE]
I don't consider scoring 7 points and shooting 2-7 (.285) "not bad" for Lin, but that's just me.
Harden shot 6-14 and had 5TO. Not great either.
And this was against the 0-7 Pistons, perhaps the worst team in the league. Wait until the Rockets play the Heat next.
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Why are the Pistons doing so poorly tho? :(
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[QUOTE=FKAri]Why are the Pistons doing so poorly tho? :([/QUOTE]
Horrible moves and judgment by GM Dumars.
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[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]I don't consider scoring 7 points and shooting 2-7 (.285) "not bad" for Lin, but that's just me.
Harden shot 6-14 and had 5TO. Not great either.
And this was against the 0-7 Pistons, perhaps the worst team in the league. Wait until the Rockets play the Heat next.[/QUOTE]
Im not sying the rockets are some second round team, and they will get blown out by LeBron and the Heat no doubt, but the rockets are doing well to start off the season.
Also, Lin isnt the scorer on this rockets team, harden is. As long as Lin is distributing 8-12 assists a night, and he is cutting down on the TOs, he is worth the contract.
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[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]I don't consider scoring 7 points and shooting 2-7 (.285) "not bad" for Lin, but that's just me.
Harden shot 6-14 and had 5TO. Not great either.
And this was against the 0-7 Pistons, perhaps the worst team in the league. Wait until the Rockets play the Heat next.[/QUOTE]
Stats didn't really tell the story. Sampson basically let Lin run things as he did in the first 2 games, and the offense flowed alot smoother. He also did not force anything in the paint, usually resulting in TO's, in which he had 0 today. Correct, this is the Pistons though, so he didn't have alot of pressure, but it's still a good sign nonetheless.
Harden played alot better off the ball, but still had too many ISO blackhole moments, but he was looking for the pass a little more.
Works in progress.
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Guys, sooner or later we will all realize 2012 Mike Brown coached Lakers were only able to beat: the PISTONS! , thats how bad these pistons play...
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[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]Guys, sooner or later we will all realize 2012 Mike Brown coached Lakers were only able to beat: the PISTONS! , thats how bad these pistons play...[/QUOTE]
yea, i kno, the pistons suck. I think a d-league team MAY be able to hang with dem.
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[QUOTE=blood yes]Im not sying the rockets are some second round team, and they will get blown out by LeBron and the Heat no doubt, but the rockets are doing well to start off the season.
Also, Lin isnt the scorer on this rockets team, harden is. As long as Lin is distributing 8-12 assists a night, and he is cutting down on the TOs, he is worth the contract.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with either of your points, but we'll see how the team develops without McHale.
Before the season started, and certainly after the first two games, Houston was being billed as a playoff contender. They're definitely not that, at this point, so I wouldn't say they're "doing well". They're treading water, and learning, but nothing much more than that.
Lin is being paid $8 million a year to do a lot more than just to hand out assists. He was supposed to be a reliable second scorer for this team -- something that he's failing miserably at. He is not justifying his contract thus far.
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[QUOTE=Phantom_Blue]Stats didn't really tell the story. Sampson basically let Lin run things as he did in the first 2 games, and the offense flowed alot smoother. He also did not force anything in the paint, usually resulting in TO's, in which he had 0 today. Correct, this is the Pistons though, so he didn't have alot of pressure, but it's still a good sign nonetheless.
Harden played alot better off the ball, but still had too many ISO blackhole moments, but he was looking for the pass a little more.
Works in progress.[/QUOTE]
I didn't catch the game, so thanks for the summary. We'll see how things develop.
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Saw the game (crappy stream). Lin played well but it was against Detroit so ill take it with a grain of salt. Harden is having some ugly tos this season. I mean there was one play where he lost the ball, got it back, then lost it again. He's trying too hard, I think. His jumper seemed like it's coming back though.
Houston is very inconsistent. They look great for stretches then their offense looks awful for stretches. But that's expected considering all the new pieces and young guys.
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One problem the Rockets are going to have to address are that Lin & Harden are great pick and roll players, but they have no bigs to play with in the starting lineup. Patterson is more of a pick & pop, and Asik has terrible hands and no offensive game(I hope more games will help this though).
The next best options are Greg Smith & Jones, so we'll see if they get more playing time in future games over Patterson.
If only Amare was a couple years younger, he'd be devastating on this team, with Asik covering his mistakes.
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[QUOTE=FKAri]Why are the Pistons doing so poorly tho? :([/QUOTE]
Rodney Stuckey:lol
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is this shit really thread worthy?
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Should we make a thread every time a player and/or team plays well? That's all I got from this thread.
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[QUOTE=Wavves]Should we make a thread every time a player and/or team plays well? That's all I got from this thread.[/QUOTE]
To counter that, should we make a thread every time a player or team doesn't play well?
What's the difference lol, one is negative spin, the other positive.
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Re: Jeremy Lin and the ROckets played well today!
So Lin played really well? Why only 25 minutes then?
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[QUOTE=niko]So Lin played really well? Why only 25 minutes then?[/QUOTE]
Could be alot of things...
1. This game was pretty much decided at the end of the 3rd, blowout in the 4th. If you notice, the entire 13 man roster got playing time.
2. Sampson wanted to go with Douglas against Will Bynum for stretches, thinking he would matchup better for defensive reasons.
3. Tail end of a back to back, with Lin,Asik & Harden playing heavy minutes in the Memphis game. Probably resting them up because it was the Pistons, and they got Miami coming up on Monday.
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[QUOTE=niko]So Lin played really well? Why only 25 minutes then?[/QUOTE]
Not really, still struggling with his scoring and this was against the worst team in the league. The game against Miami is going to be a disaster.
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[QUOTE=millwad]Not really, still struggling with his scoring and this was against the worst team in the league. The game against Miami is going to be a disaster.[/QUOTE]
Did you watch the game or are you basing your opinion on the box score?
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[QUOTE=Wavves]Should we make a thread every time a player and/or team plays well? That's all I got from this thread.[/QUOTE]
And he didn't even play that well either :oldlol: these guys are reaching
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2-7 and people still say he had a good game for a player making 9 mil a year?
Lin fans.:facepalm
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[QUOTE=millwad]Not really, still struggling with his scoring and this was against the worst team in the league. The game against Miami is going to be a disaster.[/QUOTE]
stfu lin hater. We all know you don't like lin at all, considering you. say shift bout him no matter what he does. stop faking at being a rockets fan, all u do is hate on lin, u wouldn't give him credit even if he averaged 20 assists a game
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[QUOTE=Go Getter]2-7 and people still say he had a good game for a player making 9 mil a year?
Lin fans.:facepalm[/QUOTE]
I'm not a lin fan first of all, and second, u clearly didn't watch the game because he played great, and made all the right plays, whrich is what a pg should do.
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if 2 for 7, managing the game and not making huge mistakes are a good game then Felton is an all star.
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[QUOTE=niko]if 2 for 7, managing the game and not making huge mistakes are a good game then Felton is an all star.[/QUOTE]
I never said Jeremy was an all-star caliber player. however, he is a starter caliber pg, but stupid guys like milwad think Jeremy is fckin Daniel Gibson
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[QUOTE=blood yes]stfu lin hater. We all know you don't like lin at all, considering you. say shift bout him no matter what he does. stop faking at being a rockets fan, all u do is hate on lin, u wouldn't give him credit even if he averaged 20 assists a game[/QUOTE]
What a retard, I've been a Rocket fan for years, even prior to registrating on this forum which was 5 years ago I was a Rocket fan.
And yes, I hate on Lin because he's overpaid and he's terrible. The only reason why he got his contract is because of his chinese heritage. What now, are you going to call me a racist?
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[QUOTE=millwad]What a retard, I've been a Rocket fan for years, even prior to registrating on this forum which was 5 years ago I was a Rocket fan.
And yes, I hate on Lin because he's overpaid and he's terrible. The only reason why he got his contract is because of his chinese heritage. What now, are you going to call me a racist?[/QUOTE]
Yes you are. How can you prove the only reason he got his contract is because he's Asian?
You can't. There's no stats to pull up, there's no quotes, NOTHING.
That is entirely your speculation.
And if I say, the only reason Kwame Brown got his contract is because he's black, I'm racist right? Same principles goes for you.
And STFU stop acting like a Rockets fan, just because you put it on as your avatar, you're not. You're just using the opportunity to bash Lin, and using that rockets avatar as a shield. You're no rocket fan, get the f out of here.
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[QUOTE=Boomerang]And STFU stop acting like a Rockets fan, just because you put it on as your avatar, you're not. You're just using the opportunity to bash Lin, and using that rockets avatar as a shield. You're no rocket fan, get the f out of here.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
This is hilarious. Is Lin's mom posting on ISH now?
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Re: Jeremy Lin and the ROckets played well today!
Lin is rebounding, play decent D, not turning the ball over, and shooting poorly.
He's not going to shoot this poorly all year. Remember how bad he was in the preseason? He'll be fine. His overall game is looking good.
Also, $8Million a year. To be an arguable top 15 PG in this league is very good and $8Million is a steal there.
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From what I watched from Lin, he is a pretty solid passer. He hasn't been turning over the ball as much and his ball handling skills has improved. Still sometimes a bit awkward, and I haven't seen what happens if they put pressure on.
His scoring is a bit of a problem though. It seems like sometimes he'll try to get his and can not execute properly. His shooting percentage have been terrible this year so far.
He has quick hands and good at stealing the ball. Atm, he's top 5 in steals.
There are lots to improve though. He's okay. Average. Maybe a bit above average. His FG% is pretty bad though.
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He's not taking it to the hole like he used to. The reason why his shooting percentage was so high during Linsanity was the ridiculous percentage he was shooting from around the paint and just outside. He was also going to the line 8-10 times a GAME, which is ridiculous for a PG. Now he's getting there like 3 or 4 times. I think his TOs are down due to him playing a bit more tentative. I hope he's just trying to figure out what works and isn't over thinking things because he is the kind of guy that thrives on the flow and feel of the game...it's when he starts questioning himself is when he starts to struggle.
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[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Lin is rebounding, play decent D, not turning the ball over, and shooting poorly.
He's not going to shoot this poorly all year. Remember how bad he was in the preseason? He'll be fine. His overall game is looking good.
Also, $8Million a year. To be an arguable top 15 PG in this league is very good and $8Million is a steal there.[/QUOTE]
You seem to actually understand that jeremy lin is a goodplayer, unlike ****** milwad
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[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]He's not taking it to the hole like he used to. The reason why his shooting percentage was so high during Linsanity was the ridiculous percentage he was shooting from around the paint and just outside. He was also going to the line 8-10 times a GAME, which is ridiculous for a PG. Now he's getting there like 3 or 4 times. I think his TOs are down due to him playing a bit more tentative. I hope he's just trying to figure out what works and isn't over thinking things because he is the kind of guy that thrives on the flow and feel of the game...it's when he starts questioning himself is when he starts to struggle.[/QUOTE]
TBH, the people straight bashing him obviously didn't watch the game and are taking things out of context lol.
Somehow, Jermey playing "well" was translated to, "Jeremy is playing like an all-star, living up to his contract, way better than Felton, top 5 guard in the league" for these guys. Of course he's not any of those yet, no one said he was.
Anyway to your post, there are several things not working in his favor aside from the chemistry issues and him learning a new system:
-No athletic big to run pick & roll with
-The Rockets shooting a horrible 28% from 3's, while taking the most in the league, allowing the opp. D to sag into the paint preventing driving lanes(Detroit played some zone and really shut them down for awhile). This is why their D is so important, allowing them to get TO's and run.
-The offense was running through Harden in the 2 losses, with Lin basically bringing the ball up and spotting up, or trying to create something in the end. That started to change though in the Pistons game, we'll see if it lasts.
When the team chemistry and shooting improves, I suspect we'll start seeing steadier numbers from Lin. It will be interesting to see if they get an athletic big to run P&R with through a trade.
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We all know Lin is a liability on defense. Just to provide some evidence to support that theory here are stats from Synergy for some Rockets' players this season.
Overall PPP(Point per possession allowed):
Lin: 0.59(ranked 15 in NBA for all positions so far)
Harden: 1.03(ranked 182)
Parsons: 0.77(ranked 69)
Patterson: 0.89(ranked 125)
Asik: 0.68(ranked 38)
Douglas: 0.97(ranked 155)
Last season.
Lin: 0.81(ranked 128)
Harden: 0.85(ranked 218)
Parsons:0.83(ranked 166)
Patterson: 0.89(ranked 302)
Asik:0.71(ranked 24)
Douglas: 0.87(ranked 257)
It's early in the season, so hopefully Lin can work hard and improve his defense.
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[QUOTE=Boomerang]Yes you are. How can you prove the only reason he got his contract is because he's Asian?
You can't. There's no stats to pull up, there's no quotes, NOTHING.
That is entirely your speculation.
And if I say, the only reason Kwame Brown got his contract is because he's black, I'm racist right? Same principles goes for you.
And STFU stop acting like a Rockets fan, just because you put it on as your avatar, you're not. You're just using the opportunity to bash Lin, and using that rockets avatar as a shield. You're no rocket fan, get the f out of here.[/QUOTE]
It's obvious he got signed for marketing a la China, if Jeremy Lin was another black player he wouldn't have got the contract he got. Look at Sessions, he had a crazy Linsanity-like run in Milwuakee, he got 16 millions over 4 years for his amazing games.
And haha, you've been on this site for like 5 months.. I've been repping the Rockets since 2007 on this site.
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[QUOTE=Klazart]We all know Lin is a liability on defense. Just to provide some evidence to support that theory here are stats from Synergy for some Rockets' players this season.
Overall PPP(Point per possession allowed):
Lin: 0.59(ranked 15 in NBA for all positions so far)
Harden: 1.03(ranked 182)
Parsons: 0.77(ranked 69)
Patterson: 0.89(ranked 125)
Asik: 0.68(ranked 38)
Douglas: 0.97(ranked 155)
Last season.
Lin: 0.81(ranked 128)
Harden: 0.85(ranked 218)
Parsons:0.83(ranked 166)
Patterson: 0.89(ranked 302)
Asik:0.71(ranked 24)
Douglas: 0.87(ranked 257)
It's early in the season, so hopefully Lin can work hard and improve his defense.[/QUOTE]
That's a bogus stat, based on those numbers Lin is a better defender than Asik.. :facepalm
Then you need to realize that point guards are the one's who shoot with the lowest FG% a and Lin hasn't faced any great scoring point guards yet. Wait 'til he faces CP3, DWill, Westbrook, Curry, Parker, Irving, Wall, Rondo, Rose etc..
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[QUOTE=blood yes]You seem to actually understand that jeremy lin is a goodplayer, unlike ****** milwad[/QUOTE]
You seem mad, LOF:er with no doubt..
LIN FAN ONLY!
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Re: Jeremy Lin and the ROckets played well today!
[QUOTE=millwad]It's obvious he got signed for marketing a la China, if Jeremy Lin was another black player he wouldn't have got the contract he got. Look at Sessions, he had a crazy Linsanity-like run in Milwuakee, he got 16 millions over 4 years for his amazing games.
And haha, you've been on this site for like 5 months.. I've been repping the Rockets since 2007 on this site.[/QUOTE]
Lin is being paid $8 million/year. That salary is comparable to average PGs in the league.
I think if you compare his stats so far this season to other PGs who are being paid the same you will find that he is a bargain at this price.
This is despite the fact that the coaches have been restricting his touches and playing him as a 3 point spot up shooter (which he isn't) and asking him to camp in the corner while they get Harden to try and take on the PG duties, a strategy that if you are actually WATCHING the rockets play as completely backfired for all concerned and negatively impacted not just Lin's play but also Harden's and the team's offensive chemistry.