[B]Willis Reed[/B] was voted the #30 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.
18.7 PPG | 12.9 RPG | 1.8 APG
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[B]Willis Reed[/B] was voted the #30 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.
18.7 PPG | 12.9 RPG | 1.8 APG
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Walt Frazier.
Hmm. Think I may go with John Stockton.
Ewing
Are people aware that if you said Stockton>Ewing in the 80s/90s you might well have been left bleeding in the moonlight by even fans who hated the Knicks?
Certain people get a lot better in retrospect. Im just waiting to see someone start voting Reggie Miller over people the pacers would have traded him, Smits, and Mark Jackson for.
Patrick Ewing.
Reed over Hayes for real?
Stockton
Really...thinking about it?
Would Ewing not likely be considered better than Stockton from like 1981 to 1999?
There are really people that isnt a factor to?
Anyway...off the top of my head these are the only MVPs left:
Cowens
Mcadoo
rose
nash
Iverson
Walton
Unseld
the only players who led title teams and arent picked yet....
Cowens
Whoever you credit for the 04 Pistons
Dennis Johnson/Gus Johnson
Unseld/Hayes
Schayes
Arizin
Bob Davies
Walton
Only players on both lists...
Unseld, Walton, and Cowens. And Cowens won 2 rings and played a full mostly healthy career.
Hes just that...other guy from the 70s.
Then again...Dolph was all NBA like 13 years in a row.
He and cowens did a lot more than I feel anyone cares about which isnt exactly...anyones fault. some guys just dont stand out for this reason or that one.
I just felt the need to write their names.
[QUOTE=redhonda76]Ewing[/QUOTE]
Me, too.
ewing as well
E. Hayes
Ewing
Patrick Ewing
John Stockton
2 Finals appearances
all time assists leader
all time steals leader
9x assists leader
10x allstar
11x all nba (3 first)
5x all defensive (all second)
Javale McGee
[QUOTE=M.Bustly15A5RU8]Javale McGee[/QUOTE]
U mad about something?
Vote - Walt Frazier, he should be way higher than #31 though.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]U mad about something?[/QUOTE]
No.
Stockton v Clyde v Fraizer v Kidd. Battle of 'dem guards. I'll go with [b]Stockton[/b]
john stockton
Elvin Hayes
Ewing>Stockton
I vote for Patrick
Pistol Pete Maravich
John Stockton
John Stockton
[B]John Stockton[/B]
Ewing
John Stockton. Willis Reed should have never been voted before Patrick Ewing.
Ewing
Ewing
[QUOTE=WillC]John Stockton[/QUOTE]
Who's in your avy? Don't recognize who that is.
stockton
Ewing
Stockton
In the best season of Stocktons career...1990...straight prime Stockton...27 years old...55 win Jazz team. Ewing was still better. 28/12 or so all nba first team over Hakeem and Drob dropping 50/20 and 40/12 games back to back and putting up 32 and 12 for two months.
Patrick Ewing was considered better than stockton for literally 16 or so years in a row with the only possible exceptions being injured seasons.
But now hes behind John...because of....career totals?
I cant wait till 30 years from now to see the Bs rankings people do on this era that fly in the face of the opinions of the people watching now.
Steve Nash
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]In the best season of Stocktons career...1990...straight prime Stockton...27 years old...55 win Jazz team. Ewing was still better. 28/12 or so all nba first team over Hakeem and Drob dropping 50/20 and 40/12 games back to back and putting up 32 and 12 for two months.
Patrick Ewing was considered better than stockton for literally 16 or so years in a row with the only possible exceptions being injured seasons.
But now hes behind John...because of....career totals?
I cant wait till 30 years from now to see the Bs rankings people do on this era that fly in the face of the opinions of the people watching now.[/QUOTE]
The only argument I can see for Stockton over Ewing is if we accept the notion that neither player is talented enough to win as a first option, and therefore we must look to assess their value as a second option.
I can entertain the idea that Stockton is a more valuable second option, but I won't accept the fact that Ewing doesn't cut it as a first option to begin with.
Saying that John Stockton was a better player than Patrick Ewing today is akin to saying that Tony Allen was a better player than Dwight Howard twenty years from now.
What version of Stockton was a better player than 10-11 Howard? What year exactly did John Stockton have a bigger impact than 10-11 Howard? I can name several years for Patrick Ewing in which he had a bigger impact than 10-11 Howard. Can the same be said for Stockton?
Ewing doesn't cut it as a first option?
His defense is legendary, and he also averaged 28.5 points per game one season (21 ppg on 50% throughout his career) so clearly he had offense as well... on top of that, the team he led was one game saving block away (certainly one game away whatever your interpretation of the events) from a championship.
That said, I'm voting Cowens this time. 70s players don't get enough recognition.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Who's in your avy? Don't recognize who that is.[/QUOTE]
I'll give you a clue.
The player in my avatar is the same person that Wilt Chamberlain is talking to in the wheelchair below at a charity event to raise money for his hospital bills. He had the talent to be one of the all-time greats...
[IMG]http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m561/Will23C1982/Memorabilia/MauriceStokes.jpg[/IMG]
Clyde Frazier