[QUOTE=Cowboy Thunder]Come home Bill, your work is done in Kansas
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Keep dreaming.
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[QUOTE=Cowboy Thunder]Come home Bill, your work is done in Kansas
:([/QUOTE]
Keep dreaming.
[QUOTE=Cowboy Thunder]Come home Bill, your work is done in Kansas
:([/QUOTE]
Guys had your shots back in the day but, in the parlance of my OSU buddy, they were "ate up with the dumbass" over Eddie Sutton.
No way Self ends up back at Ok State minus some huge scandal ... like getting caught with a live boy or a dead girl.
Is OP ever right about anything? Lots of evidence telling me the answer is no.
[QUOTE=IlliniFan]Is OP ever right about anything? Lots of evidence telling me the answer is no.[/QUOTE]
He's quite dumb.
Such a great thread I thought we should revisit.:roll:
[QUOTE=JMT]Such a great thread I thought we should revisit.:roll:[/QUOTE]
Great bump.
[QUOTE=JMT]Such a great thread I thought we should revisit.:roll:[/QUOTE]
Epic thread backfire of all mass proportions. :roll:
Self COY....
So what? You can get lucky in a tournament but slip all the way back to what you used to be just a year later. Id like to see how people comment next year once KU chokes again and drops against Mid-Major league teams. Last year people were saying how Self choked and should be fired by Kansas, now so much bandwagon going on. You may say whatever about me, but at least I am being consistent.
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]So what? You can get lucky in a tournament but slip all the way back to what you used to be just a year later. Id like to see how people comment next year once KU chokes again and drops against Mid-Major league teams. Last year people were saying how Self choked and should be fired by Kansas, now so much bandwagon going on. You may say whatever about me, but at least I am being consistent.[/QUOTE]
A lot of the times the ball doesn't bounce your way. Mizzou and Duke this year? UConn, the national champs from last year? Get a clue. We all know Self fkd you in your loose ace hole and then never called you after that. Move on, find some one else.
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]You may say whatever about me, but at least I am being consistent.[/QUOTE]
Consistent at making a fool out of yourself. Yep.
Isn't Roy Williams a great coach? Didn't he spend 15years in Kansas and not win a title? Hasn't Self won a title?
This is college sports...and it's not the BS that Florida got in football. To win a title kinda says a lot about you as a coach. But whatever.
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]So what? You can get lucky in a tournament but slip all the way back to what you used to be just a year later. Id like to see how people comment next year once KU chokes again and drops against Mid-Major league teams. Last year people were saying how Self choked and should be fired by Kansas, now so much bandwagon going on. You may say whatever about me, but at least I am being consistent.[/QUOTE]
Maybe those mid majors just got lucky against KU...moron.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Isn't Roy Williams a great coach? Didn't he spend 15years in Kansas and not win a title? Hasn't Self won a title?
This is college sports...and it's not the BS that Florida got in football. To win a title kinda says a lot about you as a coach. But whatever.[/QUOTE]
I'd argue that in college basketball you never can be certain if the tournament winner is the true national champion because of all the luck you need along with skill and talent to win six straight single-elimination tournament games, but it does have more certainty to it than the college football national championship.
I don't know how many times I've found myself questioning at the end of the NCAA tournament if the team that won the final game was truly the best team in the country that year. Point being, consistently making and losing in the early rounds doesn't make you a great coach -- unless you do it at a smaller school. Consistently making the tournament and making runs to the Sweet 16, Elite 8, and beyond does make you a great coach. Making Final Fours and winning national championships should not and do not define the greatness of a coach. There is just too much that can happen in any one basketball game to allow a "Cinderella" to "upset" the favorite. If the NCAA tournament was setup in a four round best of three format then sure, teams like Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, etc. would make the Final Four almost every year. But in a single elimination tournament with all the uncertainty surrounding it, you can't call a coach "bad" or "choker" when he makes a few Final Fours and wins a national championship or two.
Kiddslovesnets, how about you look at the 2011-2012 season as what many thought it was going to be for Kansas. They lost four starters from last year's team, including two All-Big 12/All-American caliber players in the Morris twins. On top of that three of their 2011 recruits were ruled ineligible for the season. Basically all they had was a bunch of unknowns heading into the year. Sure, Thomas Robinson was being selected for preseason All-American teams but he was still unproven. Withey was still raw and and unknown, and Tyshawn Taylor was a turnover machine early in the season. I remember watching them against Duke in Maui and thinking this team will be lucky to win 20 games and finish higher than 4th or 5th in the Big 12.
Yet, here we are five months later, and Kansas is playing Kentucky for a national championship. There's no help for you if you can't see that what Self has done with this Kansas team truly is remarkable.