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InspiredLebowski 03-09-2012 10:34 PM

Redskins trade for #2 overall
 
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Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap first rounders this yr w Rams also getting 2 future #1s and additional picks. Story coming on fox sports dot com
RG3's a Redskin.

RedBlackAttack 03-09-2012 10:40 PM

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Congrats Redskins. I'm glad the Browns didn't attempt to compete with that. What an absurd amount to give up. Three first round picks? :oldlol:

And this year's second rounder? :oldlol: :oldlol:

Good luck with that.

Everyone, say hello to the Mo Claiborne/Joe Haden corner tandem in Cleveland.

Carbine 03-09-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Congrats Redskins. I'm glad the Browns didn't attempt to compete with that. What an absurd amount to give up. Three first round picks? :oldlol:

And this year's second rounder? :oldlol: :oldlol:

Good luck with that.

Everyone, say hello to the Mo Claiborne/Joe Haden corner tandem in Cleveland.


Why is that? Wouldn't this make Blackmon almost certainly available at #4 for the Browns to take?

GOBB 03-09-2012 10:51 PM

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I'm so upset.

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Originally Posted by Carbine
Why is that? Wouldn't this make Blackmon almost certainly available at #4 for the Browns to take?


Seriously. Why wouldnt Blackmon be the pick. :confusedshrug:

RedBlackAttack 03-09-2012 10:55 PM

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I get the feeling the Browns aren't wild about Blackmon. I've always liked him as a prospect, but there is almost no buzz in Cleveland surrounding Blackmon coming from those in the know. It seemed to me that if we didn't get RG3, it was going to be Claiborne. Sheldon Brown simply cannot play the No. 2 corner position anymore and Claiborne is legit.

I was really, really high on Blackmon until I heard he was only 6-foot. I still like him a lot, but that is pretty short for the receiver position.

Don't get me wrong... Still love to have him. But, I just don't think Holmgren/Heckert will go that direction. Neither of those guys have ever taken a WR that high and I don't think Blackmon is going to be the exception.

I still think Blackmon could be Greg Jennings 2.0.

dak121 03-09-2012 10:57 PM

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Good spot for Griffin III. Shanahan's system is very friendly to mobile QBs.

Manning, Vick, Romo, RGIII in the NFC East. Not bad.

Wouldn't suprise me at all to see the Giants host the Redskins for the season opener considering how much hype Griffin III has received.

RedBlackAttack 03-09-2012 11:00 PM

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Redskins fans better hope that their regime is good at finding elite talent outside of the first round. They have a lot of holes to fill and they've just given up a lot for one player.

We'll see how it works.

knickballer 03-09-2012 11:03 PM

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Wow, What a steal from St. Louis and an AWFUL trade for the Redskins..

This is the type of move that will set the Redskins back 10 years.. Shitttt

****, Rams are going to have shit ton of picks to work with these next years

takeittothehoop 03-09-2012 11:07 PM

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Wow that's a lot to give up for RG3..better hope he's your QB of the future.

This could be a great trade for the Rams..they have a lot of holes and this sets them up to add some talent through the draft not only this year but the next couple as well.

Skins will still need to find a WR though, maybe in free agency they could grab V-Jax..

GOBB 03-09-2012 11:08 PM

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Redskins have a solid defense. The biggest hole there was QB. They gave up a ton no doubt, but they can fill their holes via free agency. :confusedshrug:

Resign London Fletcher, go after interior OL in free agency. Then bargain hunt for CB, DL.

ballinhun8 03-09-2012 11:09 PM

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Sounds like a ridiculous amount. I hope Griffin isn't a bust.


Cuz if not, it is going to set that franchise back so far back. God the skins just do so many stupid moves.


Seriously that's just a terrible amount to give.




And rba, I thought you guys would wanna draft blackmon. He playc bigger then he is it seems like. What's the point of making the defense better if the offense can't put up points. It'll be the same issues you had last year with the same QB issues and lack of playmakers.

Carbine 03-09-2012 11:14 PM

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Yeah, him measuring 6 foot doesn't mean much to me. He was never a Calvin Johnson type prospect.

He plays like a big receiver. Like Hakeem Nicks.

Claiborne is my favorite corner prospect to come out in quite some time though, so it's not like they're making a huge mistake.

RedBlackAttack 03-09-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GOBB
Redskins have a solid defense. The biggest hole there was QB. They gave up a ton no doubt, but they can fill their holes via free agency. :confusedshrug:

Resign London Fletcher, go after interior OL in free agency. Then bargain hunt for CB, DL.

London Fletcher is a great player... A HOFer in my opinion. But, the guy is 37-years-old. There is going to come a time probably very soon where he is not able to be the difference-maker on a defense. If they are going to rely on Fletcher to lead their defense during this RG3 era, that is a tremendous risk that is bound to fail, imo, as much as I love London.

Who is their No. 1 receiver? Santana Moss? Jabar Gaffney?

How is their offensive line?

They better hope these areas are pretty well established if they are giving up this much.


This was my worst nightmare as a Browns fan and one of the reasons I was so apprehensive about RG3 in the first place. I thought we would have to give up too much. Well, my fears were justified. Thankfully, we didn't sell the farm.


I'm very happy with retaining Nos. 4, 22 and 37. We have a real chance to make great strides in this pretty loaded draft. In order to match Washington's package, we would have probably had to give up those three picks plus next year's No. 1... F#CK THAT.

RedBlackAttack 03-09-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ballinhun8
Sounds like a ridiculous amount. I hope Griffin isn't a bust.


Cuz if not, it is going to set that franchise back so far back. God the skins just do so many stupid moves.


Seriously that's just a terrible amount to give.




And rba, I thought you guys would wanna draft blackmon. He playc bigger then he is it seems like. What's the point of making the defense better if the offense can't put up points. It'll be the same issues you had last year with the same QB issues and lack of playmakers.

Hey, I'm with you... I like Blackmon a lot. I'm just telling you the vibes that I get coming out of Berea (Browns headquarters).

I won't be complaining a whole lot if we get Claiborne.

The Browns became 'The Dawgs' in the mid-80s with Frank Minnifield and Hanford Dixon locking down the corner positions for a decade... Barking at opponents.

That is the kind of tandem we have the opportunity to create with Haden and Claiborne.

Maybe we could get a receiver at 22 or 37? I like Michael Floyd a lot, personally. Not as much as Blackmon, but I would take him at 22 if he were to slip.

And I think he could be a nice No. 1 receiver in the league in the right system.

ballinhun8 03-09-2012 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Hey, I'm with you... I like Blackmon a lot. I'm just telling you the vibes that I get coming out of Berea (Browns headquarters).

I won't be complaining a whole lot if we get Claiborne.

The Browns became 'The Dawgs' in the mid-80s with Frank Minnifield and Hanford Dixon locking down the corner positions for a decade... Barking at opponents.

That is the kind of tandem we have the opportunity to create with Haden and Claiborne.

Maybe we could get a receiver at 22 or 37? I like Michael Floyd a lot, personally. Not as much as Blackmon, but I would take him at 22 if he were to slip.

And I think he could be a nice No. 1 receiver in the league in the right system.




Whoa buddy I like Floyd too and I doubt the Bears pass him up. They have said they like him and the Bears, much like the Browns need a playmaker in the receiving Corp. And Floyd's size makes him real attractive to our fave teams. I'm hoping someone like him and not a guy like Wright, no more small, speedy guys.

RedBlackAttack 03-09-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ballinhun8
Whoa buddy I like Floyd too and I doubt the Bears pass him up. They have said they like him and the Bears, much like the Browns need a playmaker in the receiving Corp. And Floyd's size makes him real attractive to our fave teams. I'm hoping someone like him and not a guy like Wright, no more small, speedy guys.

Don't be shocked if the Browns explore all options, including possibly trading down once again for more picks. If there is a team out there really wild about Blackmon or Claiborne or any of the other elite prospects still on the board at 4, Heckert won't hesitate to pull the trigger...

Which could result in the Browns targeting Floyd or Coples a few spots down.

GOBB 03-09-2012 11:33 PM

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I hope it doesnt work being I'm an Eagles fan. Hope it sets them back

RedBlackAttack 03-09-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GOBB
I hope it doesnt work being I'm an Eagles fan. Hope it sets them back

I think there is an excellent chance of this happening. The Redskins are not a quarterback away from being a threat in that division. Maybe if that quarterback was a prime Peyton Manning doing his line-of-scrimmage brilliance, but not a very talented, very young QB who is going to take years to become elite and, in the meantime, have insufficient resources both on the current roster and in future draft picks.

I'll tell you this... By the time RG3 hits his prime, Shanahan may be long gone. If this doesn't pan out in the first few years, there is going to be tremendous backlash. If those first round picks over the next two years are in the Top 10?

He's a goner. He is basically putting his job in the hands of RG3.

Rams fans must be in seventh heaven. What a deal. My god.

The team that really hit the "lottery" this year wasn't Washington... And it wasn't even Indy with Luck. It is St. Louis which can basically transform their team over the course of the next three drafts.

takeittothehoop 03-09-2012 11:50 PM

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If the Skins were willing to send 3 1sts and a 2nd for RG3..hypothetically how much would they have gave up for Luck?

I know the Colts obviously would never have traded the pick but Washington are giving up this much for the projected 2nd best QB in the draft? :lol

Rameek 03-09-2012 11:55 PM

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Snyder is retarded... Next to the Saints trading away their draft for Ricky Williams this has to be the worse.:rolleyes:

RedBlackAttack 03-10-2012 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by takeittothehoop
If the Skins were willing to send 3 1sts and a 2nd for RG3..hypothetically how much would they have gave up for Luck?

I know the Colts obviously would never have traded the pick but Washington are giving up this much for the projected 2nd best QB in the draft? :lol

I'm going to say... Their first, second and third round picks over the next three years. I'm not even sure that Snyder would stop there.

Guy is certifiably insane. Bruce Allen must also be short a few chromosomes.

Riddler 03-10-2012 03:03 AM

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Damn... This has the potential to be the worst trade in the History of the NFL.

I like the RGIII kid... but now that he's a Redskin... I hope he's a bigger bust than Jamarcus Russell.


I thought the Carson Palmer trade was bad... But this could end up being far more disastrous.

QUIZZLE 03-10-2012 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Riddler
Damn... This has the potential to be the worst trade in the History of the NFL.

I like the RGIII kid... but now that he's a Redskin... I hope he's a bigger bust than Jamarcus Russell.


I thought the Carson Palmer trade was bad... But this could end up being far more disastrous.


On point.

Redskins were in serious rebuilding mode as is and trading away all those QUALITY picks (sorry for an all caps primetime moment) is retarded. They could get Aaron Rodgers on their team and still be dead last in that division let alone a questionable RG3.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. I almost feel bad for Shannahan. His coaching career is going to end up a suicidal mess.

Carbine 03-10-2012 07:11 AM

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If they had Aaron Rodgers they would not finish last in their division. That's just going totally overboard.

The Redskins DO have a lot of money to spend this off-season, we'll see what that lands them.

It's really premature to judge this trade at the moment. He's worth what they gave up if he's going to be the real deal. They haven't had a quarterback for a long time. They have averaged being like the 25th ranked offense for the last 12 years in points scored.

QUIZZLE 03-10-2012 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Carbine
If they had Aaron Rodgers they would not finish last in their division. That's just going totally overboard.

The Redskins DO have a lot of money to spend this off-season, we'll see what that lands them.


It's still the NFC east. I'm not saying just any division...

KingBeasley08 03-10-2012 11:36 AM

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:banana: :banana: :banana: :rockon:

We got a franchise QB!

:dancin :dancin :hammertime: :party:

Deal was worth it. 40 million in cap space will make this work. QB >>>>>> then all other positions. Vincent Jackson in FA, Interior OL with a 2nd round next year. Our biggest flaw last year was RG3 (not this one). Now he is upgraded

InspiredLebowski 03-10-2012 12:05 PM

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KingBeasley08 03-10-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by InspiredLebowski

:bowdown: :bowdown:

We've been ass for 20 years. I'd rather take a chance now than wait for a perfect scenario that may never happen

GOBB 03-10-2012 01:46 PM

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Sound like Raider fans with Carson Palmer "deal was worth it". :roll:

-p.tiddy- 03-10-2012 02:42 PM

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3 years from now the Rams will be a dynasty...unreal

3 FIRST FOUNDERS!!!... WOW


Rams will still land Blackmon I bet...lol

dak121 03-10-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -p.tiddy-
3 years from now the Rams will be a dynasty...unreal

3 FIRST FOUNDERS!!!... WOW


Rams will still land Blackmon I bet...lol


Except their the Rams. I'll always have doubts about bad organizations.

Real Men Wear Green 03-10-2012 03:17 PM

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I'm guessing Shanahan has a lot of job security left because as talented as he looks rookie QBs normally miss the playoffs. And when's the last time a team benefitted from trading several assets for one? I bet Hue Jackson would take back that Carson Palmer trade if he could right now. I'm not saying that Griffin's going to bust but he might need 2 or 3 years to develop into a good starter. Will Snyder put up with missing the playoffs until then?

clipse026 03-10-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -p.tiddy-
3 years from now the Rams will be a dynasty...unreal

3 FIRST FOUNDERS!!!... WOW


Rams will still land Blackmon I bet...lol

:roll: :roll: :roll: dynasty? I'm still waiting for Bradford to make it through a year. This certainly helps them in the future though. I really hope RG3 succeeds but I really don't like Washington at all. They need to do what it takes to get him some help. Go after VJax, go after Nicks ( :cry: ). Get him some help.

ROCSteady 03-10-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Redskins fans better hope that their regime is good at finding elite talent outside of the first round. They have a lot of holes to fill and they've just given up a lot for one player.


We'll see how it works.



So far, so good. We have been drafting well since Shanny And Allen came in.

Not thrilled about losing 2 first Rounders but moves must be made and I'm Ecstatic to have one of the most rare elite QB prospects in history.

Haven't wanted a college guy to be a Redskin this much since Sean T. I knew he would be a Skin and I knew RG 3 would end up being one. Eat shit Philly, Dallas, Giants. The time has come to get terrorized by a WSH QB. The world tends to try and balance itself out.

GOBB 03-10-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ROCSteady
So far, so good. We have been drafting well since Shanny And Allen came in.

Not thrilled about losing 2 first Rounders but moves must be made and I'm Ecstatic to have one of the most rare elite QB prospects in history.

Haven't wanted a college guy to be a Redskin this much since Sean T. I knew he would be a Skin and I knew RG 3 would end up being one. Eat shit Philly, Dallas, Giants. The time has come to get terrorized by a WSH QB. The world tends to try and balance itself out.


With that OL Skins have and no #1 WR? :roll: We're afriad. Call me when Deadskins improve actual areas of need to help RGIII transition run smoothly.

ROCSteady 03-10-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
I think there is an excellent chance of this happening. The Redskins are not a quarterback away from being a threat in that division. Maybe if that quarterback was a prime Peyton Manning doing his line-of-scrimmage brilliance, but not a very talented, very young QB who is going to take years to become elite and, in the meantime, have insufficient resources both on the current roster and in future draft picks.

I'll tell you this... By the time RG3 hits his prime, Shanahan may be long gone. If this doesn't pan out in the first few years, there is going to be tremendous backlash. If those first round picks over the next two years are in the Top 10?

He's a goner. He is basically putting his job in the hands of RG3.

Rams fans must be in seventh heaven. What a deal. My god.

The team that really hit the "lottery" this year wasn't Washington... And it wasn't even Indy with Luck. It is St. Louis which can basically transform their team over the course of the next three drafts.


Why would anybody claim of the Skins hitting the lottery?

We obviously struck in quality, not quantity. It took a big price but two first rounders is absolutely worth having a rare elite QB with no glaring weaknesses and every necessary strength to step up and be the franchise player.

Insufficient resources? Say hello to the ~$40 million in cap space that we can use to get any a WR like Vincent Jackson or Marques Colston. Even an Eddie Royal on the cheap to return kicks and play slot in a familiar system.

Or a G like Ben Grubbs or Carl Nicks to protect and make a difference in the running game. Shit, we could even decide to give Peyton Hillis a deal and let him return to Shanahan, he obviously hates Cleveland.

You just aren't knowledgable enough to make statements on Washington's upcoming free agency options or the current team. We were bad at 5-11 but have some talent to work with.

Griffin is far better off in D.C. than in Cleveland. He belongs here where he can be an icon to a bigger market and one starving for a face of franchise.

CLE has some solid players on their roster but your remarks for our organization can just as easily be applied to CLE except that we have a coach that players will buy in for more. The reason you didn't want to give up as much as we did is because you know that the Browns are lacking in many areas and need to spread it out rather than strike the iron while it's hottest for a top prospect when needed most, like in the case of the Washington Redskins.

:cheers:

-p.tiddy- 03-10-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dak121
Except their the Rams. I'll always have doubts about bad organizations.

The Rams were SB Champs not too long ago.

-p.tiddy- 03-10-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by clipse026
:roll: :roll: :roll: dynasty? I'm still waiting for Bradford to make it through a year. This certainly helps them in the future though. I really hope RG3 succeeds but I really don't like Washington at all. They need to do what it takes to get him some help. Go after VJax, go after Nicks ( :cry: ). Get him some help.

Still waiting? He won ROY then got injured one year...good god

GOBB 03-10-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -p.tiddy-
Still waiting? He won ROY then got injured one year...good god


Rams are gonna mess up those first rd picks. *looks at history*

UtahJazzFan88 03-10-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by -p.tiddy-
3 years from now the Rams will be a dynasty...unreal

3 FIRST FOUNDERS!!!... WOW


Rams will still land Blackmon I bet...lol


Now we'll really see how good your boy Sam Bradford is with your 2nd favorite team. :oldlol:


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