How many titles do the 90s Bulls win?
Assume Kobe doesn't retire like MJ did in 94-95 either. Same roster though.
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How many titles do the 90s Bulls win?
Assume Kobe doesn't retire like MJ did in 94-95 either. Same roster though.
1 million
Depends, are you replacing Pippen with Shaq?
Maybe 1, and that being somewhere during the second 3-peat. My gut says Zero though.
2 or 3 titles in those 8 years.
I think they'd lose to the Knicks in '93 (down 0-2 ... Kobe would fold and Scottie would go right along with him) and Jazz in '98 (Utah's year really, MJ had to summon every ounce of will power to win that year I think).
2-4 titles assuming Kobe only plays '91-'93 and '96-'98 just like MJ did (yes, I know the OP stated otherwise, but that's silly and just muddies the waters). I think that's the realistic range. I'd break it down like this:
There's an 80+% chance he wins 1 or more title
There's a 50-60% chance he wins 2 or more titles
There's a 35-40% chance he wins 3 or more titles
There's a 20-25% chance he wins 4 or more titles
There's a 5-10% chance he wins 5 or more titles
There's a 0-5% chance he wins 6 or more titles
Approximately...
I think they win in '91 and '97 almost certainly. The others are all toss-ups based on the Finalists or, in some cases, the EC competition the Bulls faced.
Kobe can't win 1992, 1993, 1995, 1998.
Kobe can win 1994, 1996, 1997.
Kobe definetly would win 1991.
1-4 titles I guess.
[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]2-4 titles assuming Kobe only plays '91-'93 and '96-'98 just like MJ did (yes, I know the OP stated otherwise, but that's silly and just muddies the waters). I think that's the realistic range. I'd break it down like this:
There's an 80+% chance he wins 1 or more title
There's a 50-60% chance he wins 2 or more titles
There's a 35-40% chance he wins 3 or more titles
There's a 20-25% chance he wins 4 or more titles
There's a 5-10% chance he wins 5 or more titles
There's a 0-5% chance he wins 6 or more titles
Approximately...
I think they win in '91 and '97 almost certainly. The others are all toss-ups based on the Finalists or, in some cases, the EC competition the Bulls faced.[/QUOTE]
Good post. I think 91 and 97 are locks in a hypothetical like this. After that it gets really hard.
[QUOTE=catch24]Maybe 1, and that being somewhere during the second 3-peat. My gut says Zero though.[/QUOTE]
My gut feeling says zero as well.
MJ had to be legendary for them to win during their reign. He didn't just play good enough, he had to carry them far more than what Kobe's had too carry his team. Hell... all we have to do is look at deciding or important games to know that he would've lost them some series.
Kobe's teams have helped out Kobe tremendously, far more than MJ's teams have helped out MJ. And the stats prove this.
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They would have won it all in 91, 96, 97, and 98.
Post-prime Kobe did this in the PS on his Finals runs:
08: 30/6/6/2/58% TS
09: 30/6/5/2/56% TS
10: 29/6/6/2/57% TS
Dude would have dominated the weak 90's.
[QUOTE=Jacks3]They would have won it all in 91, 96, 97, and 98.
Post-prime Kobe did this in the PS on his Finals runs:
08: 30/6/6/2/58% TS
09: 30/6/5/2/56% TS
10: 29/6/6/2/57% TS
Dude would have dominated the weak 90's.[/QUOTE]
No he wouldn't.
His shits would've dropped all across the board. He's not smart enough, not physically tough enough, nor mentally strong enough.
Besides.... with what center?
You think Kobe can win in an era filled with superior big men if he played with Carthwright or Longley?
He can barely win in today's weak big men era with an all star center, how is he gonna do that with Will Purdue?
Well....in 91 the Bulls did have a few tough stretches against the Lakers. It's a bit underrated. MJ had some clutch shots in game 3. The score doesn't say it, but all of those games were close until one of them blew the point total out of the water in the final mins.
But anyway, I'm guessing Kobe Bulls team will have a tougher series against the Lakers. It would be fun to see Kobe guarding Magic. Haha.
But seriously, I dunno how many titles would Kobe win. Probably less. I'm guessing 4 titles overall?
Of course it depends on which Kobe you put in there.
[QUOTE=andgar923]No he wouldn't.
His shits would've dropped all across the board. He's not smart enough, not physically tough enough, nor mentally strong enough.
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Yes, he would. lol @ your garbage. Not physically tough enough? Not smart enough? Not mentally strong enough? Did you miss 08-10 when a past-prime version of Bryant led LA to three straight Finals and back-to-back championships while playing three #1 defenses and 12 50+ win teams?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=Soundwave]I think they'd lose to the Knicks in '93 (down 0-2 ... Kobe would fold and Scottie would go right along with him) and Jazz in '98 (Utah's year really, MJ had to summon every ounce of will power to win that year I think).[/QUOTE]
Even if they beat the Knicks in '93, they aren't beating Phoenix in the Finals. It took monsterous performances to win that series, even with the Bulls winning the first two in Phoenix.