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Who would you rather build your team around - Kareem, Bird, LeBron or MJ?
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Most people have MJ as the GOAT with Kareem and Larry coming close..LeBron proving hes a potential top 5 or higher every passing day....But, who would you rather build your team around? For me, it would have to be Kareem because of the center postion having an all around larger impact on the game.
Would love to hear reasons why some of you would possibly even select Bird Over MJ, which I don't think would be the wrong decision. Can't go wrong with any top 10 player.
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Re: Who would you rather build your team around - Kareem, Bird, LeBron or MJ?
Assuming I don't know how their careers are going to pan out, Kareem
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[QUOTE=troyceps33]Assuming I don't know how their careers are going to pan out, Kareem[/QUOTE]
And if you do?
Technically you wouldn't since you would be drafting them and making a team, thus any accomplishment they did make doesn't mean anything other than individual
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[QUOTE=troyceps33]Probably still Kareem[/QUOTE]
I feel like I'm on ****in Mt Everest right now , MY OPINION IS SHARED
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Jabbar, no questions asked.
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Kareem
Lebron
Bird
MJ
Based on who I would build my team around.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]Jabbar, no questions asked.[/QUOTE]
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Bird or Kareem.
Both completely change the franchise that they were in their rookie year. Kareem took a 27 win team to a 56 win team. Bird took a 29 win team to a 61 win team. Bird had more success in a short time frame, but Kareem had more longevity.
You won't go wrong with either of those players, but it depends on the teammates surrounding them. I just think Bird and Kareem would offer the most success in their rookie year and continuing to do so through out their careers.
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If I don't know how they would play, Kareem and then LeBron. If I do, Bird and then Jordan.
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[QUOTE=Micku]Bird or Kareem.
Both completely change the franchise that they were in their rookie year. [B]Kareem took a 27 win team to a 56 win team. Bird took a 29 win team to a 61 win team.[/B] Bird had more success in a short time frame, but Kareem had more longevity.
You won't go wrong with either of those players, but it depends on the teammates surrounding them. I just think Bird and Kareem would offer the most success in their rookie year and continuing to do so through out their careers.[/QUOTE]
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Only a few players I know of off the top of my head that had that large of an impact on their team the first year
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[QUOTE=pauk]Thats.... a tough one...[/QUOTE]
Lol idk if you're being sarcastic or not but would love to hear your opinion if you can make up your mind :lol
Known on here as a LeBron fan right? Guessing you'd choose him. Which I can respect LeBron is a ****ing monster. Need to see him play before he retires
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[QUOTE=elementally morale]If I don't know how they would play, Kareem and then LeBron. If I do, Bird and then Jordan.[/QUOTE]
If I don't know how they will pan out:
1. Kareem
2. LeBron
3. Bird
4. MJ
If I do:
EDIT: longevity taken into account.
1.a Kareem
1.b Bird
3. MJ
4. LeBron
That's my final answer.
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Re: Who would you rather build your team around - Kareem, Bird, LeBron or MJ?
[QUOTE=pauk]Thats.... a tough one...[/QUOTE]
not really. once you scratch lebron and compare the others 3 achievements & longevity Kareems name instantly appears as the obvious choice
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Re: Who would you rather build your team around - Kareem, Bird, LeBron or MJ?
[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]not really. once you scratch lebron and compare the others 3 achievements & longevity Kareems name instantly appears as the obvious choice[/QUOTE]
Longevity... you are right. I'll have to edit my post. :(
(BTW, we have no idea as to LeBron's longevity yet.)
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[QUOTE=elementally morale]If I don't know how they will pan out:
1. Kareem
2. LeBron
3. Bird
4. MJ
If I do:
1. Bird
2/a Kareem
2/b MJ
3. LeBron
That's my final answer.[/QUOTE]
could you possibly explain a little bit why you would choose Bird over Kareem who you had number 1 if you didnt know?
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Re: Who would you rather build your team around - Kareem, Bird, LeBron or MJ?
[QUOTE=elementally morale]Longevity... you are right. I'll have to edit my post. :(
(BTW, we have no idea as to LeBron's longevity yet.)[/QUOTE]
its ok we can scratch lebrons name right away based on other facts my friend. I wouldn't want to build around a guy that would back stab my franchise for starters
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Re: Who would you rather build your team around - Kareem, Bird, LeBron or MJ?
[QUOTE=jongib369]could you possibly explain a little bit why you would choose Bird over Kareem who you had number 1 if you didnt know?[/QUOTE]
I didn't take longevity into account first, just peak play and impact on team. I started watching in 1980 and from what I've seen, Bird's peak was better than anyone else's not named Shaq. But I didn't see 70s Kareem... so I don't know.
And longevity is important, I just totally forgot about it the first time, hence the EDIT. In other words: I fu(ked up the first two times I tried. :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]its ok we can scratch lebrons name right away based on other facts my friend. I wouldn't want to build around a guy that would back stab my franchise for starters[/QUOTE]
Yeah... and losing the 2013 Finals against the 8th seed of the West didn't help his case either.
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[QUOTE=elementally morale]I didn't take longevity into account first, just peak play and impact on team. I started watching in 1980 and from what I've seen, Bird's peak was better than anyone else's not named Shaq. But I didn't see 70s Kareem... so I don't know.
And longevity is important, I just totally forgot about it the first time, hence the EDIT. In other words: I fu(ked up the first two times I tried. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I never really think about injuries, but what if you took that into consideration as well? Bird was more injury prone than Jordan, LBJ and Kareem.
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[QUOTE=elementally morale]I didn't take longevity into account first, just peak play and impact on team. I started watching in 1980 and from what I've seen, Bird's peak was better than anyone else's not named Shaq. But I didn't see 70s Kareem... so I don't know.
And longevity is important, I just totally forgot about it the first time, hence the EDIT. In other words: I fu(ked up the first two times I tried. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
It's just one game but if you didn't click it check this out...1977 kareem scores 45
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In today's league?
1. Kareem
2. Jordan
3. LeBron
4. Bird
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[QUOTE=elementally morale]Yeah... and losing the 2013 Finals against the 8th seed of the West didn't help his case either.[/QUOTE]
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KAJ
MJ
Bird
gap
1a.Scalabrine
1b.LeBron
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[QUOTE=jongib369]Lol idk if you're being sarcastic or not but would love to hear your opinion if you can make up your mind :lol
Known on here as a LeBron fan right? Guessing you'd choose him. Which I can respect LeBron is a ****ing monster. Need to see him play before he retires[/QUOTE]
I am a fan of Lebrons game.... just like i am a huge fan of Jordans, Kareems and [U]especially[/U] Birds game.....
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[QUOTE=KOBE143]KAJ
MJ
Bird
gap
1a.Scalabrine
1b.LeBron[/QUOTE]
:roll: I seriously love your posts. Used to annoy me but I always laugh now
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Knowing how their careers went and taking health, longetivity and dominance into consideration... Toss up between Jordan and Kareem with Bron right behind them. I wwould scratch Bird from consideration because of his chronic back problems.
Final list...
1a. Jordan
1b. KAJ
2. LeBron
3. Bird
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Kareem probably has the GOAT college career. Bird had an excellent one as well.
Considering college is typically where talent is scouted....
Kareem - Easiest to build around a big. At 7'2" yeah he's pretty much the epitome of a big. Had the agility of a guard too. Excellent defender and rebounder with a great offensive game. Can't go wrong here.
Bird - Elite court vision and shooting ability. I'm thinking Bird would have been like a 35ppg scorer had there been a 3 point line.
Both MJ and Lebron athleticism were just clearly ahead of the field as prospects. Lebron as a high school phenom in a man's body and MJ as the majestic high flyer. Lebron had the hype as the Magic v2 so probably Lebron over MJ in this case.
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[QUOTE=Cali Syndicate]Kareem probably has the GOAT college career. Bird had an excellent one as well.
Considering college is typically where talent is scouted....
Kareem - Easiest to build around a big. At 7'2" yeah he's pretty much the epitome of a big. Had the agility of a guard too. Excellent defender and rebounder with a great offensive game. Can't go wrong here.
Bird - Elite court vision and shooting ability. I'm thinking Bird would have been like a 35ppg scorer had there been a 3 point line.
Both MJ and Lebron athleticism were just clearly ahead of the field as prospects. Lebron as a high school phenom in a man's body and MJ as the majestic high flyer. Lebron had the hype as the Magic v2 so probably Lebron over MJ in this case.[/QUOTE]
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who is that defending MJ's shot in that third picture?
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]who is that defending MJ's shot in that third picture?[/QUOTE]
shawn marion
heres the video
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPmPu-JxJ9A[/url]
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]who is that defending MJ's shot in that third picture?[/QUOTE]
That would be Mr. Shawn Matrix Marion
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[QUOTE=jongib369]shawn marion
heres the video
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPmPu-JxJ9A[/url][/QUOTE]
haha, was Isaiah Thomas coaching the east that yr? must have been pretty awkward with MJ on the squad.
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I happen to be building teams around all four, actually (separately, not all on the same team).
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Lebron or KAJ. Very close between them.
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big men >
KAJ
MJ
LeBron
Bird
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I'd take MJ. He is afterall the 2nd greatest of all time, and the 2nd greatest SG of all time.
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[QUOTE=NumberSix]Shaq[/QUOTE]
I think Shaq was left out on purpose, as there wouldn't even be a discussion if he was listed.