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"Rape Crew" in small town Ohio
Yikes. Has this been posted yet?
[url]http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/01/steubenville-high-football-rape-crew/60554/[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1oahqCzwcY[/url]
Too much to gather. Check the first link.
For a more comprehensive summary...
[url]http://localleaks.blogs.ru/[/url]
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I remember this story when Deadspin reported about it nearly a month ago. How the whole thing sort of unfolded on Twitter when the two boys and others at the party started posting pictures of the passed out girl. A crazy and sad story.
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lol white dude is on steroids. Look @ his arms. He's 16.
-Smak
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At my high school just being on the football team meant you could pretty much fukc any slut from school on any given weekend. No need for a rape crew.
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[QUOTE=No_Look604]white people:facepalm[/QUOTE]
get money dont spend it
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[QUOTE=No_Look604]white people:facepalm[/QUOTE]
3/4 people in the picture including the girl are black :facepalm
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Damn I guess 4chan is really serious business, huh? :roll:
Just read that whole article and those guys are going hard. When they used to "take up causes" back in the day I feel like they didnt get shyt done but now, they blow up spots like the world trade
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Reading the article on local leaks, that is some seriously fvcked up shit
[QUOTE]She didn't know she was raped until she saw it on instagram?
[/QUOTE]they gave her a date rape drug
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Absolutely disgusting. Especially the fact that nearly the entire community is trying to help them cover it up :facepalm
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This is really almost unbelievable. If it weren't for the firm evidence on video, photos, and in the form of first hand tweets and the such, this would almost seem like a bad movie. With a whole town covering up some awfull secret, it's like Hostel but with rape.
I'd love some reinforcement on the connetions. The Sheriff's brother is the county's biggest drug importer? The Sheriff is also the biggest bookmaker in the town.
I was a bookmaker of some consequence in my day, and if the town is so destitute that the HS football team supplies most of it's income, I'm not sure how much bookmaking can be getting done. And the notion that they're booking on this HS's games is weird, because who the hell is gonna bet against them while still going to this much trouble to cover up their misdeeds, and the books can't be doing very well, because this team better be good. Who's covering up this much for a mediocre HS football team?
No one in those pictures looks like a particularly awe inspiring HS football player.
I did do a little following up, and apparently The Ohio State University expelled the one kid after his video surfaced.
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I've been waiting for this to be posted. Obviously, this is something I have intimate knowledge of and, having said that, I can tell you that the media blizzard and sensationalism currently underway is as stunning as it is irresponsible.
I'm currently at work, so I can't go too far into specifics, but suffice to say this whole blaming of the city and character assassinations of people who had absolutely no role in any of this is mind-blowing.
Even more astounding is the head in the sand mindset of the readers/responders to these baseless claims and universal condemnation of everyone and anyone, regardless of level of involvement. The national media has been painting a picture of some sort of city-wide cover-up without an iota of proof.
The trial starts next month. None of these people even know the details of what exactly happened that night. I agree that statements made by that kid at Ohio State were disgusting and I have no sympathy for him in his being outed. But, I know most of the coaching staff and some others who have been implicated in this thing and there is zero proof of any wrongdoing. Reno Saccoccia is one of the greatest people I have ever known... He is like a second father to me and he has always been one of the most morally sound individuals I have ever known. It really rips my heart out that he is being portrayed in such a vicious light. He doesn't deserve it, nor does the city deserve to be painted as an accomplice to the alleged crimes of a handful of idiot teenagers.
It is really interesting to bear witness to sensationalism first-hand. I can tell you, until you've witnessed it up-close and personal, you have no idea how insane it is.
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[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]This is really almost unbelievable. If it weren't for the firm evidence on video, photos, and in the form of first hand tweets and the such, this would almost seem like a bad movie. With a whole town covering up some awfull secret, it's like Hostel but with rape. [/quote]
^^^What evidence have you seen that a "whole town" is covering up an "awful secret," because I haven't seen any. This is exactly what I'm talking about.
[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]I'd love some reinforcement on the connetions. The Sheriff's brother is the county's biggest drug importer? The Sheriff is also the biggest bookmaker in the town.
I was a bookmaker of some consequence in my day, and if the town is so destitute that the HS football team supplies most of it's income, I'm not sure how much bookmaking can be getting done. And the notion that they're booking on this HS's games is weird, because who the hell is gonna bet against them while still going to this much trouble to cover up their misdeeds, and the books can't be doing very well, because this team better be good. Who's covering up this much for a mediocre HS football team?[/quote]
Not a single piece of truth in any of those accusations. I know Fred Abdalla and it is literally comical that he's being portrayed as some master criminal. I would laugh if there weren't real people whom I know with their entire life's reputation on the line. Unfortunately, there is nothing funny about that.
[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]No one in those pictures looks like a particularly awe inspiring HS football player.
I did do a little following up, and apparently The Ohio State University expelled the one kid after his video surfaced.[/QUOTE]
Who are these "awe-inspiring" HS football players? The drunken buffoon in the video never played football in his life. The two guys arrested were sophomores and had never taken a single snap for Big Red and never will.
The amount of misinformation being served to the public is simply incredible.
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[QUOTE=IGotACoolStory]For a more comprehensive summary...
[url]http://localleaks.blogs.ru/[/url][/QUOTE]
Oh yes... More comprehensive. Or, as it is also known, completely manufactured content. For future reference, guys, never trust any a written piece that doesn't even supply the reader with a byline.
This appears to be just fun and games to a lot of people out there.
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I didn't know it was possible for me to hate almost an entire town of people.
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[QUOTE=IGotACoolStory]Yikes. Has this been posted yet?
[url]http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/01/steubenville-high-football-rape-crew/60554/[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1oahqCzwcY[/url]
Too much to gather. Check the first link.
For a more comprehensive summary...
[url]http://localleaks.blogs.ru/[/url][/QUOTE]
Damn that sucks for the girl. All of these kids slipped, being stupid enough to put this shit online is going to haunt them for a damn long time.
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[QUOTE=Myth]I didn't know it was possible for me to hate almost an entire town of people.[/QUOTE]
And it shouldn't be. Unless you hate 99.9% of people with absolutely no involvement in any crime. Don't believe everything you read.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]And it shouldn't be. Unless you hate 99.9% of people with absolutely no involvement in any crime. Don't believe everything you read.[/QUOTE]
It definitely seems like some of the adults in the articles at least know what is going on and aren't doing jack shit. I agree with you that it could be a bit exaggerated, but no chance in hell they aren't keeping it this quiet without help.
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She went alone to a house that was full of nikkas? :biggums:
She's asking to get a train ran on her.
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[QUOTE=TheSilentKiller]It definitely seems like some of the adults in the articles at least know what is going on and aren't doing jack shit. I agree with you that it could be a bit exaggerated, but no chance in hell they aren't keeping it this quiet without help.[/QUOTE]
Aren't keeping what quiet? If people are trying to keep something quiet, they have failed miserably (from the very start). Please be more specific. Which adults in these "articles" (I use quotations because that is an insult to my profession) appear to know more than they are saying?
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:applause: RBA doing work
Good posts
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Aren't keeping what quiet? If people are trying to keep something quiet, they have failed miserably (from the very start). Please be more specific. Which adults in these "articles" (I use quotations because that is an insult to my profession) appear to know more than they are saying?[/QUOTE]
Namely the sheriff and prosecuting attorney (Fred Abdalla and Jane Hanlin). The video with Abdalla where he gave several misinformed statements about the law and a couple instances with Hanlin are super sketchy.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack][B]Aren't keeping what quiet? If people are trying to keep something quiet, they have failed miserably[/B] (from the very start). Please be more specific. Which adults in these "articles" (I use quotations because that is an insult to my profession) appear to know more than they are saying?[/QUOTE]
Yes, they are trying and are failing miserably.
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[QUOTE=TheSilentKiller]Yes, they are trying and are failing miserably.[/QUOTE]
Who is? Specifics. I can't respond to just general accusations. That has been the tactic of these reckless reports... Just make the accusations general enough that they don't require real evidence.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Who is? Specifics. I can't respond to just general accusations.[/QUOTE]
See other post. Sheriff and prosecuting attorney Hanlin.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack] But, I know most of the coaching staff and some others who have been implicated in this thing and there is zero proof of any wrongdoing. Reno Saccoccia is one of the greatest people I have ever known... He is like a second father to me and he has always been one of the most morally sound individuals I have ever known. It really rips my heart out that he is being portrayed in such a vicious light. He doesn't deserve it, nor does the city deserve to be painted as an accomplice to the alleged crimes of a handful of idiot teenagers. [/QUOTE]
I agree with you about the coach. All the article does is bash him without providing a lick of evidence against him. Very sloppy journalism and extremely unfair to him and his coaching staff.
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[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]only in Texas...[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=TheSilentKiller]Namely the sheriff and prosecuting attorney (Fred Abdalla and Jane Hanlin). The video with Abdalla where he gave several misinformed statements about the law and a couple instances with Hanlin are super sketchy.[/QUOTE]
Hanlin did absolutely the correct thing. Her son attends the school and several of his friends were at this party where the alleged crimes took place. Therefore, she recused herself from situation and called in the state to take over. That was exactly the protocol which should have been followed.
I don't know exactly the statements you are referring to with Abdalla, so I can't respond directly to what you are accusing him of. However, I would never insinuate that Sheriff Fred is the sharpest tool in the shed, but it is a pretty massive leap to go from there to "he is involved in a massive, city-wide cover-up."
Especially since the kids were arrested immediately when the girl went to the cops. The big issue came because the girl waited three days between the alleged incident and her going to the police. Obviously, there is always going to be the chance of evidence lost when there is a 72-hour period between the incident and the reporting of it.
I have yet to see a single, coherent description of exactly what was covered up. The people prosecuting the case are not from the area and they haven't even insinuated that such a cover-up is even suspected. This is all through shady online bloggers with zero evidence.
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[QUOTE=TheSilentKiller]I agree with you about the coach. All the article does is bash him without providing a lick of evidence against him. Very sloppy journalism and extremely unfair to him and his coaching staff.[/QUOTE]
Not only him, but Jim Parks -- whom I also know -- is the guy who runs the Big Red fansite which was hacked by Anonymous. They accused him (as does that ridiculous "localleaks" article) of having child porn in his email and being somehow involved in the incident. They have accused him of paying the team to go places and rape girls just so he can be sent the pictures.
They've basically tried to ruin his life and there is zero evidence. They even released his email account to the public. There were no underage pictures and no proof of anything.
His only crime was that he owned a Big Red fan site, apparently. And, no one seems to care that this is going on to people who are completely uninvolved.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Not only him, but Jim Parks -- whom I also know -- is the guy who runs the Big Red fansite which was hacked by Anonymous. They accused him (as does that ridiculous "localleaks" article) of having child porn in his email and being somehow involved in the incident. They have accused him of paying the team to go places and rape girls just so he can be sent the pictures.
They've basically tried to ruin his life and there is zero evidence. They even released his email account to the public. There were no underage pictures and no proof of anything.
His only crime was that he owned a Big Red fan site, apparently. And, no one seems to care that this is going on to people who are completely uninvolved.[/QUOTE]
They HAVE evidence. They hacked into his email account and saw the pictures that those kids were sending him.
You're the one with his head in the sand on that one.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Hanlin did absolutely the correct thing. Her son attends the school and several of his friends were at this party where the alleged crimes took place. Therefore, she recused herself from situation and called in the state to take over. That was exactly the protocol which should have been followed.
I don't know exactly the statements you are referring to with Abdalla, so I can't respond directly to what you are accusing him of. However, I would never insinuate that Sheriff Fred is the sharpest tool in the shed, but it is a pretty massive leap to go from there to "he is involved in a massive, city-wide cover-up."
Especially since the kids were arrested immediately when the girl went to the cops. The big issue came because the girl waited three days between the alleged incident and her going to the police. Obviously, there is always going to be the chance of evidence lost when there is a 72-hour period between the incident and the reporting of it.
I have yet to see a single, coherent description of exactly what was covered up. The people prosecuting the case are not from the area and they haven't even insinuated that such a cover-up is even suspected. This is all through shady online bloggers with zero evidence.[/QUOTE]
Accusing is a harsh word. I don't know for certain, but based on the stuff I have read/seen, it seems like Sheriff Abdella isn't being completely truthful. In [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ks3bnbAd4II"]this video[/URL], he makes a couple of iffy statements (saying that being at a crime and not reporting it isn't a crime itself, says the case isn't in his jurisdiction when it actually can be).
Looking back on the stuff with Hanlin, I actually tend to agree with you. I didn't take the time to really read into what the people were reporting and I took their words for fact. they really don't have any evidence on anything. So *sheepishly*, I take back what I said. At least at this point, it isn't fair to judge anything until more refutable evidence comes out.
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[QUOTE=Droid101]They HAVE evidence. They hacked into his email account and saw the pictures that those kids were sending him.
You're the one with his head in the sand on that one.[/QUOTE]
Completely false. The email account has already been published. The kids sent him no pictures. He received pictures from a girl who was clearly over the age of consent.... And she sent him the pictures, not some high school kid.
There is no question, at this point, that he was wrongfully implicated. In fact, the girl whose picture they pointed to as the "victim" from Louisville, Ohio, I actually know. She graduated from Big Red in the late-90s.
It is fascinating to me that people are just going to blindly believe this stuff. They said it... Must be true.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Completely false. The email account has already been published. The kids sent him no pictures. He received pictures from a girl who was clearly over the age of consent.... And she sent him the pictures, not some high school kid.
There is no question, at this point, that he was wrongfully implicated. In fact, the girl whose picture they pointed to as the "victim" from Louisville, Ohio, I actually know. She graduated from Big Red in the late-90s.
It is fascinating to me that people are just going to blindly believe this stuff. They said it... Must be true.[/QUOTE]
You're the last person we can trust on this, really. The football culture invades everyone in small towns like that and leads them to defend stupid things and cover up worse ones.
See: Penn State.
Regarding Jim Parks:
[quote]At least one of the images discovered in James Parks E-Mail bore a striking resemblance to another rape victim Savannah Dietrich whose attack occurred in Louisville, Kentucky under similar circumstances as Steubenville. [/quote]
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]And it shouldn't be. Unless you hate 99.9% of people with absolutely no involvement in any crime. Don't believe everything you read.[/QUOTE]
Where are the people in the town defending the victim? :confusedshrug:
People have stepped up to defend the football players, but nobody has stepped up in that town to the media to say that there are more important things than football. That is the part that makes me upset at the townsfolk.
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[QUOTE=Myth]Where are the people in the town defending the victim? :confusedshrug:
People have stepped up to defend the football players, but nobody has stepped up in that town to say that there are more important things than football. That is the part that makes me upset at the townsfolk.[/QUOTE]
Bingo.
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[QUOTE=Myth]Where are the people in the town defending the victim? :confusedshrug:
People have stepped up to defend the football players, but nobody has stepped up in that town to say that there are more important things than football. That is the part that makes me upset at the townsfolk.[/QUOTE]
Basically this.
All Red and Attack did was defend the football program and city but has yet to feel remorse for the victim in this thread.
This is Penn State all over again and we need to get the Feds on this.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]^^^What evidence have you seen that a "whole town" is covering up an "awful secret," because I haven't seen any. This is exactly what I'm talking about.
Not a single piece of truth in any of those accusations. I know Fred Abdalla and it is literally comical that he's being portrayed as some master criminal. I would laugh if there weren't real people whom I know with their entire life's reputation on the line. Unfortunately, there is nothing funny about that.
Who are these "awe-inspiring" HS football players? The drunken buffoon in the video never played football in his life. The two guys arrested were sophomores and had never taken a single snap for Big Red and never will.
The amount of misinformation being served to the public is simply incredible.[/QUOTE]
I'm basing everything on that locallinks blogpost up in the original post. I hadn't heard anything about that to this point. I don't have audio at work, so I'm only posting on what I read.
And we sort of agree. I frankly can't believe the story being told in that blog. Like I said, it would seem like an almost comically large movie type coverup, like in Hostel. The only solid info in that story is the stuff that seems concrete, like the tweets, photos, and videos.
The accusations in that article about the sheriff are crazy. They allege that his brother is a massive drug importer to the region, and that he's a major bookmaker, but never provide any evidence. That's why I said I would like to see more connections with some of these people. The author is telling a story with this data thrown in and no evidence.
From the video shown, and the tweets, it's clear something bad happened that night. And simply from the video of the Ohio State kid, I have no problem with him being expelled from school based solely on that.
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Let's hope the Sheriff is fired for not doing his job correctly.
Can't really do anything to the Coach Reno unless he knew about it and did nothing. Like Paterno.
Sad when some members of the team are the Rape Crew.