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Rubio Doesn't Want To Go To Memphis or OKC?
[QUOTE]While Oklahoma City would obviously be extremely interested in the prospect of acquiring the top pick and drafting local product Blake Griffin, there is one team standing in their way – the Memphis Grizzlies, who own the #2 pick. From what people around the league are saying, Rubio’s camp may already be sending out feelers indicating that he’s not interested in the least bit in playing in Memphis.
[B]“Rubio doesn’t want to go to Memphis, and he especially does not want to pay money out of his own pocket with that huge buyout for the honor of doing so. Fegan [Rubio’s agent] wants him in L.A., and if he can’t have him there, he wants him in Sacramento. Definitely not Oklahoma City.[/B] “
Unlike Griffin or Hasheem Thabeet, who don’t really have any choice where they will play next season if a team decides to play hardball, Rubio has a reasonably attractive alternative option at his disposal—returning to Spain.
“He’ll pull out if he doesn’t like what he’s hearing,” the NBA source tells us. “Or he can stay in and force the Grizzlies to call his bluff—would they really take him knowing that he may never come over? That’s one way to get him to fall to three.”
Fegan is already highly experienced in these matters, having unsuccessfully attempted to navigate fellow client Yi Jianlian towards the team of his choice in the 2007 draft, only to see Milwaukee foil his plans and pick him anyway. This time, though, he has a lot more leverage, as Rubio would likely have no problem staying in Badalona for another year or two or more if push came to shove. His buyout after all, is yet to be resolved, which in this case may actually be an advantage.
The Grizzlies are clearly aware of the politics surrounding their pick, but do not appear to be in any rush to make any decisions. “We’ll talk about all those things when they come up,” their General Manager Chris Wallace told us. “Right now we’re still in evaluation mode. We haven’t had any conversations with him [Rubio] or anyone else in his camp.”
Wallace shared that he will be headed out to Spain this weekend to watch Rubio compete in game three of the ACB playoffs, where Joventut will try to advance to the semifinals with a road win over Real Madrid. “I sent someone out there last week to watch him in the playoffs just in case we were able to move up,” Wallace told us. “He’s hardly a sleeper and he hasn’t been very difficult to track. We feel very comfortable with what we know about him right now.”
When asked whether Mike Conley’s status as Memphis’ tentative starter will deter the Grizzlies from selecting another point guard, Wallace indicated that that won’t be a factor. “We’re not in a position to be drafting for need. We’re going to go after the biggest talent available, whether that’s a big man or a point guard or whatever.”
What might make the most sense on paper would be for the Clippers and Grizzlies to work out a trade in which Memphis could take Griffin and Los Angeles would get Rubio. For that to happen, Memphis would have to part with one of their core assets, likely Rudy Gay. Obviously we’ll have to stay tuned, because as John Hollinger correctly indicated in his latest column last night’s lottery left more questions than answers for the teams drafting in the top 5.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/#NBA-Draft-Roundup-May-20-3224"]Jonathan Givony on DraftXpress[/URL]
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All Rookies say that, about sh!tty teams.
O.J. Mayo said he didn't want to play for T'Wolves, but he would have played there if they didn't trade him. Yi said he didn't want to play for the Bucks, he played for them. So on and So on.
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I hate when player does this. You want to choose where to play? Wait until you can sign as a FA. I'm a fan of Rubio, but I hate this kind of attitude.
Let's hope it's only on Fegan. The article said there has been no direct contact yet between Rubio and Memphis.
Oh, and f*ck Dan Fegan.
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[QUOTE=lilderrickrose]All Rookies say that, about sh!tty teams.
O.J. Mayo said he didn't want to play for T'Wolves, but he would have played there if they didn't trade him. Yi said he didn't want to play for the Bucks, he played for them. So on and So on.[/QUOTE]
completely different situation.
at first as soon as the clippers won the pick, i toyed with the idea of rubio. but after more clear-headed consideration, we're taking griffin, and not entertaining any realistic trades that would involve moving him.
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I'm sure it's just his agent talking. It's not like it's the first time, right?
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[QUOTE=lilderrickrose]All Rookies say that, about sh!tty teams.
O.J. Mayo said he didn't want to play for T'Wolves, but he would have played there if they didn't trade him. Yi said he didn't want to play for the Bucks, he played for them. So on and So on.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but none of them had an 8 million dollar contract waiting for them in Spain.
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ungrateful guy, at least be happy that your gonna play in the best league in the world.
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[QUOTE=artificial]I hate when player does this. You want to choose where to play? Wait until you can sign as a FA. I'm a fan of Rubio, but I hate this kind of attitude. .[/QUOTE]
He can't wait to sign as a FA. If he stays in Spain, his rights are simply retained by the team that drafted him.
I don't blame him though, the kid's from Barcelona and he's now expected to live in OKC or Memphis?
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[QUOTE=Kobe Jnr]ungrateful guy, at least be happy that your gonna play in the best league in the world.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=joe]Yeah but none of them had an 8 million dollar contract waiting for them in Spain.[/QUOTE]
Yep, and I don't think Jianlin had a buy out of $6-8 million this year, with $11 million next. Rubio could just simply remain in Spain until the 2011-12 season and remain their if he doesn't get what he wants. Some leverage, something Yi really didn't have.
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heck half the season is on the road anyways i dont see whats the big deal.
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Same agent as Yi Jianlian, coincidence?
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[QUOTE=Kobe Jnr]ungrateful guy, at least be happy that your gonna play in the best league in the world.[/QUOTE]
Come on, if he comes with 2nd pick, he would have to pay near 85% of his 3 years's pay to DKV Joventut.
Would you came to NBA to play with Memphis for free? Sure I wouldn't.
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[QUOTE=GoldMedallist]Come on, if he comes with 2nd pick, he would have to pay near 85% of his 3 years's pay to DKV Joventut.
Would you came to NBA to play with Memphis for free? Sure I wouldn't.[/QUOTE]
I don't think he'd declared for the draft if he weren't 100% sure of going to the NBA regardless of the team.
Going to Memphis didn't go bad for Pau, right?
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[QUOTE=GoldMedallist]Come on, if he comes with 2nd pick, he would have to pay near 85% of his 3 years's pay to DKV Joventut.
Would you came to NBA to play with Memphis for free? Sure I wouldn't.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he thinks that anybody should be dying to go to a ****hole in USA to play in a crappy team instead of living in a nice city in Spain and play for a championship contending team :roll:
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[QUOTE=chains5000]I don't think he'd declared for the draft if he weren't 100% sure of going to the NBA regardless of the team.
[B]Going to Memphis didn't go bad for Pau, right[/B]?[/QUOTE]
is that sarcasm?
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[QUOTE=Younggrease]is that sarcasm?[/QUOTE]
No.
He went to a bad team where he had minutes and allowed him to grow as a player and be the team leader. Just what Ricky needs to reach his potential.
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Unfortunately, he has all the leverage. He can just not show up and stay in Spain.
It's too bad for him that LA isn't even considering him. LA has already come and said they're taking Blake Griffin.
Maybe Sacramento can make a deal with Memphis for the pick.
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This thread should be renamed "Rubio's Agent doesnt want him to go to Memphis or OKC" because I didnt see any quotes from Rubio in there.
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[QUOTE=chains5000]I don't think he'd declared for the draft if he weren't 100% sure of going to the NBA regardless of the team.
Going to Memphis didn't go bad for Pau, right?[/QUOTE]
He wasted 7 years carrying the worst NBA market do playoffs only to get swept of them three times.
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[QUOTE=GoldMedallist]He wasted 7 years carrying the worst NBA market do playoffs only to get swept of them three times.[/QUOTE]
But he got the minutes to develop. It his "first job" in the NBA, what he needs is room to improve, winning isn't important yet.
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[QUOTE=KeylessEntry]This thread should be renamed "Rubio's Agent doesnt want him to go to Memphis or OKC" because I didnt see any quotes from Rubio in there.[/QUOTE]
This is ISH, what did you expect?
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[QUOTE=Hammertime]He can't wait to sign as a FA. If he stays in Spain, his rights are simply retained by the team that drafted him.[/QUOTE]
My bad. I was thinking of him withdrawing his name from the draft (he still can?). But even then he would be automatically eligible at some point.
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Doesn't bother me, I don't want Rubio anyway. I'd just pick him anyway and then trade him away for solid PF. Although, if Rubio's agent wants him in LA, then fine, the Clipps can pick Rubio and we (Grizzlies) will have Griffin.
Problem solved.
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They should tell that little punk to just stay playing Euroball then. If he doesn't like that he could end up anywhere and if he doesn't like the draft process, to hell with him. Can't believe he's trying to come into the NBA with this kind of garbage. :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Undisputed]They should tell that little punk to just stay playing Euroball then. If he doesn't like that he could end up anywhere and if he doesn't like the draft process, to hell with him. Can't believe he's trying to come into the NBA with this kind of garbage. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
It's just his agent.
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It's a lie!!!
Rubio wants to go to Memphis...He wants to play with his national teammate Marc Gasol.
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[QUOTE=chains5000]It's just his agent.[/QUOTE]
He needs to fire his agent then. As long as his agent is spewing that stuff, I'm going to assume Rubio supports it.
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[QUOTE=Undisputed]He needs to fire his agent then. As long as his agent is spewing that stuff, I'm going to assume Rubio supports it.[/QUOTE]
it annoys me when fans see athletes as video game pieces and think that as a fan they are entitled to decide how a player should live his life.
Going to a new city in a new country is a career move. This is a kid's future career here and its no different than a business major deciding what to do out of college. Would you want Ricky Rubio telling you where you should or should not, could or could not accept a job offer? If not, then back off.
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[QUOTE=BRINKER]it annoys me when fans see athletes as video game pieces and think that as a fan they are entitled to decide how a player should live his life.
Going to a new city in a new country is a career move. This is a kid's future career here and its no different than a business major deciding what to do out of college. Would you want Ricky Rubio telling you where you should or should not, could or could not accept a job offer? If not, then back off.[/QUOTE]
Being talked about comes along with being a public figure. If I didn't want people talking about me, I wouldn't be trying to play basketball for the NBA.
The thing about the NBA is that he really has no choice right now. The draft process is simple, you go wherever you're picked. Do you not realize this? What makes him so special that he gets to pick what city he goes to?
Why are you on an NBA forum if you're so against discussion on players and prospects? I'm not trying to say where he should go, I'm just saying he should have to be like everyone else and go where he is drafted without b*tching.
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Well I'll be damn, someone actually wants to go to Sacramento. Finally I can eat the bullet I've been saving.
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[QUOTE=Undisputed]Being talked about comes along with being a public figure. If I didn't want people talking about me, I wouldn't be trying to play basketball for the NBA.
[B]The thing about the NBA is that he really has no choice right now.[/B] The draft process is simple, you go wherever you're picked. Do you not realize this? What makes him so special that he gets to pick what city he goes to? If you support players whining about where they go in the draft, then you're slow.
Why are you on an NBA forum if you're so against discussion on other people's life?[/QUOTE]
He does have a choice though, to stay in Spain. The NBA isn't the only logical destination for professional basketball players anymore.
In order to come to the NBA, he has to 1) pay most of his buyout, 8 million dollars worth, and 2) play for a franchise that has continually shown an unwillingness to spend money and make the smart moves it takes to contend. So why not just live comfortably in your home country, become a millionairre, and contend for championships?
You want someone to blame? Blame the NBA for awarding the most inept franchises with lottery picks. Who's idea was it to reward the Clippers with Blake Griffin, despite their routinely bad management decisions and player personnel?
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I wouldn't want to play for the Grizzlies either. They could be re-located at any time.
I'd have no problem playing for OKC though. Good young team and a cool city.
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[QUOTE=joe]He does have a choice though, to stay in Spain. The NBA isn't the only logical destination for professional basketball players anymore.
In order to come to the NBA, he has to 1) pay most of his buyout, 8 million dollars worth, and 2) play for a franchise that has continually shown an unwillingness to spend money and make the smart moves it takes to contend. So why not just live comfortably in your home country, become a millionairre, and contend for championships?
You want someone to blame? Blame the NBA for awarding the most inept franchises with lottery picks. Who's idea was it to reward the Clippers with Blake Griffin, despite their routinely bad management decisions and player personnel?[/QUOTE]
Like I said, if he doesn't like how the NBA draft process works, he can stay where he is. Number one of what you listed is true, but number 2, why does he deserve that kind of special treatment? So you feel he should be able to dictate where he goes because one team has a better agenda when it comes to winning than the other? I can't believe people are actually supporting this BS.
The draft process is the same almost everywhere. It's a balance of power. The weakest teams get the best players from the draft, and it works.
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[QUOTE=Kobe Jnr]ungrateful guy, at least be happy that your gonna play in the best league in the world.[/QUOTE]
Hey Jr.
Daddy Kobe his father and his agent made similar claims before the 96 draft. Charlotte Hornets picked Kobe at 13. Then he was immediately traded for Vlade Divac.
Some people get what they want. Especially when they make it known.
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His agent doesn't know much about OKC. Small town, but not as depressing as Memphis the official DLeague of LA.
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[QUOTE=Undisputed]Like I said, if he doesn't like how the NBA draft process works, he can stay where he is. Number one of what you listed is true, but number 2, why does he deserve that kind of special treatment? So you feel he should be able to dictate where he goes because one team has a better agenda when it comes to winning than the other? I can't believe people are actually supporting this BS.
The draft process is the same almost everywhere. It's a balance of power. The weakest teams get the best players from the draft, and it works.[/QUOTE]
Explain to me how the draft process works? The same teams are in the lottery every season. Every now and then a franchise drafts a true hero, think Lebron or Dwight, and manages to escape the cellar. But other than that it's a laundry list of familiar faces; the Clippers, Bucks, Pacers, Bobcats, Golden State, Minnesota, Memphis, Sacramento. Again and again these teams are rewarded for their ineptitude, and again and again they wind up praying to the ping-pong ball gods.
In premise, the lottery system sounds stellar. You give the struggling teams a better chance at getting the next superstar, thus halting any one small group of teams to continually dominate the league. But in practice it promotes tanking, rewards mediocre GM's, and forces the best young players to spend the first 4-5 years of their career playing for the L.A. Clippers of the universe.
Ricky Rubio and Yi are only the first peel of the banana. Soon enough a foreign league will emerge that's willing to pay American rookies bigger money than the rookie scale. And when it's that or the Memphis Grizzlies, learning Spanish/Greek/French doesn't sound so bad.
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[QUOTE=joe]Ricky Rubio and Yi are only the first peel of the banana.[/QUOTE]
What do they got in common?:rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=chains5000]What do they got in common?:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
They both reportedly refused to play for certain teams. Yi's agent said he'd like Yi to play for a big market, and now this similar issue with Ricky.
Unless you meant what those two have in common with a banana. Well, Yi's the same color as a banana :D jp jp
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[QUOTE=joe]Explain to me how the draft process works? The same teams are in the lottery every season. Every now and then a franchise drafts a true hero, think Lebron or Dwight, and manages to escape the cellar. But other than that it's a laundry list of familiar faces; the Clippers, Bucks, Pacers, Bobcats, Golden State, Minnesota, Memphis, Sacramento. Again and again these teams are rewarded for their ineptitude, and again and again they wind up praying to the ping-pong ball gods.[/QUOTE]
The draft process works because you're giving the worst teams the best prospects. It would make no sense to give the best prospects in the draft to the good teams. How exactly would you like it to work?
The draft gives those teams that stuggle a chance to have a successful player and future. In each draft, there's only so many guys that will actually become a special talent. The draft is hit or miss. Another option teams have is to trade the draft picks for players already in the NBA. It's less lopsided to have the worst teams given the best talent from the draft than any other way.
[QUOTE]In premise, the lottery system sounds stellar. You give the struggling teams a better chance at getting the next superstar, thus halting any one small group of teams to continually dominate the league. But in practice it promotes tanking, rewards mediocre GM's, and forces the best young players to spend the first 4-5 years of their career playing for the L.A. Clippers of the universe.[/QUOTE]
Got a better way to do it? It's how things have work with sport drafts because it's really the only logical way to do it. A lot of those young players have gone to crappy places and made something of it. If they prove to be a dominant talent, teams will usually build on that. If a player turns out to be mediocre, then they're just as screwed as they were the previous seasons. It's not a reward, it's just fair.
[QUOTE]Ricky Rubio and Yi are only the first peel of the banana. Soon enough a foreign league will emerge that's willing to pay American rookies bigger money than the rookie scale. And when it's that or the Memphis Grizzlies, learning Spanish/Greek/French doesn't sound so bad.[/QUOTE]
Until that day, they need to just suck it up and stop complaining. The draft is what it is, no prospect should have the power to decide which city picks them. They know how the NBA works, if anything about it sounds unappealing, then don't join that league.