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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]You're making an ignorant assumption that the amount of deaths is directly tied to its transmittance, when in fact it's a function of potential sources, human traffic, etc. Moreover, no one can be certain of the actually cause of death in many cases, especially underdeveloped areas.
It can be transmitted through any bodily fluid. That is easily; especially when compared to more restrictive means such as blood ingestion.[/QUOTE]
It requires someone to be symptomatic though. That's a massive problem in it spreading. If someone is vomiting blood you aren't going to go touch it. It's not decimating a country that avoids doctors, keeps dead bodies in house, washes dead bodies, has medical shortages, has bodies dumped in streets, has bodies contaminating water and food yet people want to make out like it will decimate a western country where people go to the doctor as soon as they get a sniffle and come in to contact so so many anti bacterial products that it's actually detrimental to their overall health.....
No one is saying it isn't a scary and horrible disease but the way some people are trying to pump the panic engine is just silly.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
For those of you who can't figure out which is more dangerous, ask yourself a quick question...
If you had to be in the same room as someone with Ebola or someone with the flu, which one would you pick? That should give you your answer.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=NumberSix]For those of you who can't figure out which is more dangerous, ask yourself a quick question...
If you had to be in the same room as someone with Ebola or someone with the flu, which one would you pick? That should give you your answer.[/QUOTE]:lol
And he sticks the landing
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=NumberSix]For those of you who can't figure out which is more dangerous, ask yourself a quick question...
If you had to be in the same room as someone with Ebola or someone with the flu, which one would you pick? That should give you your answer.[/QUOTE]
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
Being scared of Ebola is like being scared of terrorism. If you're worried about shit like this, you better not drive to work or walk outside... because you're far more likely to die in a car crash or from simply falling down.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=bdreason]Being scared of Ebola is like being scared of terrorism. If you're worried about shit like this, you better not drive to work or walk outside... because you're far more likely to die in a car crash or from simply falling down.[/QUOTE]
Right now
People are worried about it breaking out here in the US like West Africa... No one is worried about contacting it right now.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Influenza has killed a lot more ppl than that man. It kills 250,000-500,000 people per year, not 1,500.[/QUOTE]
I should've clarified - in the states.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=NumberSix]For those of you who can't figure out which is more dangerous, ask yourself a quick question...
If you had to be in the same room as someone with Ebola or someone with the flu, which one would you pick? That should give you your answer.[/QUOTE]
That's like saying would you rather be in a room with a monkey with AIDS who's playing with knives and is going insane, or a guy infected with Ebola?
Sure one is a lot scarier in that situation, but you're not going to find yourself in the former situation very often. It's both risk probability and the magnitude of the danger.
Again, one kills the elderly/young while the other will be fatal to almost anyone. On the other hand, one is way more infectious than the other. Mutations in the influenza virus though definitely have by far the most dangerous repercussions (ie. the swine flu).
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=Dave3] Mutations in the influenza virus though definitely have by far the most dangerous repercussions (ie. the swine flu).[/QUOTE]
The swine flu wasn't any worse than the regular flu, whatever the fck it's called.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=NumberSix]For those of you who can't figure out which is more dangerous, ask yourself a quick question...
If you had to be in the same room as someone with Ebola or someone with the flu, which one would you pick? That should give you your answer.[/QUOTE]
that's a completely stupid argument. No one is saying the flu is more likely to kill you if you pick it up. Everyone knows that Ebola has a much higher fatality rate. But the odds of contracting it are far lower and far less likely. Stop the fear mongering and read some actual facts about the situation not just click bait stories by journos needing the exposure.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=NumberSix]For those of you who can't figure out which is more dangerous, ask yourself a quick question...
If you had to be in the same room as someone with Ebola or someone with the flu, which one would you pick? That should give you your answer.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Get off youtube.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=ace23]The swine flu wasn't any worse than the regular flu, whatever the fck it's called.[/QUOTE]
It was in other countries, killed more than the usual flu during that outbreak.
His basic point is right aswell, the flu is a more unstable virus and has had more mutations in the past so if people want to use the argument that ebola could mutate to spread more efficiently then there's no reason why people can't use the argument that the flu could mutate to damage the human body more efficiently (like it has in the past many times). The swine flu was actually similar tp the spanish flu wasn't it? That strain killed like 100 million people in the early 1900s and killed healthy young people as well. The common flu is of course less dangerous it's just an analogy for the stupid things people are saying ebola could possibly do.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=ace23]The swine flu wasn't any worse than the regular flu, whatever the fck it's called.[/QUOTE]
Depends on what you mean by worse. In terms of symptoms, then yeah they're the same, because technically they're the same species. The difference was in the code name they used - H1N1. H and N are 2 different proteins on the viral capsid that let it get into human cells. I think normal flu is H5N1. The point is, if the virus gets more infective or escapes the immunity incurred by the annual vaccine, it's a lot more likely to infect people, and thus cause more damage, so in that sense, it is worse.
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=outbreak]You missed the point. It's in response usually to people who keep saying things like "if ebola mutates to be airborne...." in a similar vein the flu is already airborne and has a history of mutations and far more unstable than ebola yet these ebola panic tards want to keep acting like it's simple for ebola to become airborne while ignoring the fact it's more likely for a serious strain of the flu (which has happened pretty recently in human history) to turn up.[/QUOTE]
Woah, this is a lot of misinformation. Both influenza and ebola are RNA viruses and RNA viruses inherently have very high mutation rates due to the nature of their copying mechanism. There are genetic studies indicating that the current strain is mutating very fast.Secondly, influenze is considered "airborne" because it propagates in lung tissue and is thus more easily expelled by sneezing and coughing.
Is there a chance that a bloodborne virus will change its viral transmission trope to become airborne? It's very unlikely. Ebolavirus is very well adapted to its niche in animal populations and it would take a massive selection pressure to change its tropism.
[url]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-1.2/Ebola.htm[/url]
A significant outbreak in the US is virtually impossible. The US does not have a natural reservoir of the virus which means transmission is limited to human contact. This makes investigation and quarantine of potentially infected much easier. It also makes screening much easier; every emergency room has started screening(have you been to west africa? etc) for ebola since the outbreak started 3-4 months ago. The situation in the Dallas, Spain, etc. is clearly different than the situations in countries where the largest outbreaks are occurring.
There is very little to panic about. Ebolavirus is very aggressive meaning infected people usually need hospitalization when symptoms make the virus most contagious. Every modern hospital in the US has the ability to diagnose ebola and have updated protocols on quarantine.
[QUOTE] That team, however, produced one composite viral genome sequence for each patient, rather than individually sequencing different copies of the virus found in each patient, as in the work reported today.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] It had accumulated more than 395 mutations between that time and June, when the researchers collected the last samples included in today's analysis.
The virus amassed 50 mutations during its first month, the researchers found. They say there is no sign that any of these mutations have contributed to the unprecedented size of the outbreak by changing the characteristics of the Ebola virus — for instance, its ability to spread from person to person or to kill infected patients. But others are eager to examine these questions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Several authors of the study, including Christian Happi of Redeemer’s University in Redemption City, Nigeria, have been involved in such training in West Africa, and are now preparing researchers there to perform genetic sequencing. Happi’s African Centre of Excellence for Genomics of Infectious Disease at the university is expecting to receive the first next-generation sequencer in West Africa.
“Our hope is that next time this happens, we will be able to perform deep sequencing right on African soil,” Happi says.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.nature.com/news/ebola-virus-mutating-rapidly-as-it-spreads-1.15777[/url]
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Re: So, 3800 people in Africa died of ebola this past year, is that right?
[QUOTE=shlver]Woah, this is a lot of misinformation. Both influenza and ebola are RNA viruses and RNA viruses inherently have very high mutation rates due to the nature of their copying mechanism. There are genetic studies indicating that the current strain is mutating very fast.Secondly, influenze is considered "airborne" because it propagates in lung tissue and is thus more easily expelled by sneezing and coughing.
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I just wanna add for the sake of completion that though they are both RNA viruses, and thus don't have proofreading during division (and thus high rate of mutation) Influenza does happen to also be a segmented RNA virus, which means it literally has segments of RNA that can just jump around its genome, so its mutation potential is way higher than Ebola.
