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Re: Russell, Chamberlain, Kareem - How did they measure up?:
[QUOTE=BlueandGold]So Wilt had the highest wing-span ever? I can't think of anyone else who would be close to that except maybe Ralph Sampson or some obscure draft bust player who ended up riding the bench/getting played out of the league.[/QUOTE]
No, I remember having read that Manute Bol had a wingspan of 8'4. He's definitely #1, and it's probably not close to #2 (it's much more interesting to me to know who #2 was).
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
Scratch that, Bol is actually given at 8'[B]6[/B] or [B]102 [/B]inches.
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
[url]http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-12-15/sports/1992350169_1_shaquille-oneal-wilt-oneal-is-averaging[/url]
[url]http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/BE051863/young-wilt-chamberlain-displays-hands[/url]
(Russell's hand length measurement comes from the research done by the author of the book "The Rivalry")
Shaq's got long fingers and long palms, but short thumbs.
Shaq's Right Hand Measurement:
11 inches long
9 inches wide.
[IMG]http://thelaunchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/shaq-superman-tattoo.jpg[/IMG]
No Width Measurement. Length is almost the same as Shaq's.
10.5 inches long
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-j3ywLkHfqvI/T3FlcFeIlLI/AAAAAAAADVc/TWSZ--dV0mU/s400/Russell%2520hands.jpg[/IMG]
Wilt's got very stout, broad hands in comparison to both of these guys. I notice he palms the ball far far more often, and more confidently and securely than Russ or Shaq (almost anyone really). I'm guessing that hand spread is more beneficial for palming vs hand length, could be that he just has stronger hands though.
Wilt's Right Hand Measurement:
9.5 inches long
11.5 inches wide
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I3l7sTXDwhU/T3FlUEHiEtI/AAAAAAAADVU/HYX_jxrwmgM/s800/wilt%2520hands%25201.jpg[/IMG]
Wilt's hand width and Shaq's and Russell's hand length's are virtually unmatched on [url]www.draftexpress.com/measurements[/url]
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
Brilliant research as always.
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
Hand measurements?
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
[QUOTE=LoneyROY7]Hand measurements?
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You entered a thread titled "Detailed Player Measurements"
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
[B]Bill Russell weight progression:[/B]
cited
rookie - 215lbs
[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sAExcTZfCEM/T3HtSlUN_1I/AAAAAAAADV8/U9wNyxLwG0A/s400/russrookie.jpg[/IMG]
1963-64 - 222lbs
[url]http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mD0jAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xJsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4512,5529906&dq=bill+russell+pounds&hl=en[/url]
[IMG]http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/history/legends/bill-russell/bill-russell-608.jpg[/IMG]
1967-68 - 230lbs
[url]http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Z-Y_AAAAIBAJ&sjid=16MMAAAAIBAJ&pg=5473,5999902&dq=wayne+embry+weight&hl=en[/url]
[IMG]http://www.nba.com/celtics/photos/bill-russell-reed-block300400.jpg[/IMG]
1968 season, Russell blocks 245lb Willis Reed
1968-69 - 240lbs
[url]http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=gGJGAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ligNAAAAIBAJ&pg=2285,3812877&dq=bill+russell+pounds&hl=en[/url]
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A0UbbxHqsso/T3HpDljgG-I/AAAAAAAADVs/7KrTdMUKgHU/s400/Bill%25201969%252C%2520230-245lbs.jpg[/IMG]
1969 season, Russell in the post against 255lb Wayne Embry.
For comparison:
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***215lbs is the rookie weight of Kevin Durant***
[url]www.draftexpress.com/measurements[/url]
***David Robinson was 226lbs in the 1988 Olympics***
[URL="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/59884817.html?dids=59884817:59884817&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=May+21%2C+1988&author=MARK+HEISLER&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&desc=U.S.+Olympic+Men's+Basketball+Trials+The+Real+David+Robinson+Surfaces+Again&pqatl=google"]http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/59884817.html?dids=59884817:59884817&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=May+21%2C+1988&author=MARK+HEISLER&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&desc=U.S.+Olympic+Men's+Basketball+Trials+The+Real+David+Robinson+Surfaces+Again&pqatl=google[/URL]
***240lbs is the rookie weight of Dwight Howard***
[url]www.draftexpress.com/measurements[/url][/SIZE]
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
Speaking of hand measurements, I was just looking down the database list on DraftExpress and a couple jumped out at me.
Corey Joseph at 6'3" (in shoes) has a hand length of 10.25 inches.
Olu Ashaolu (still in college) at 6'6" has a hand length of 11.25 inches.
Kawhi Leonard at 6'7" has some big hands too: 9.75" long and 11.25 inches wide.
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
Just added Shaquille O'Neal and Dwight Howard to the original post for direct comparison - Shaquille O'Neal and Wilt Chamberlain both have the most complete set of measurements
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Just added Shaquille O'Neal and Dwight Howard to the original post for direct comparison - Shaquille O'Neal and Wilt Chamberlain both have the most complete set of measurements[/QUOTE]
When was Shaq at his maximum? What year, like?
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
I think Wilt's standing reach might be a bit high. Russell and Wilt both said in interviews that Russell had an equal or longer standing reach then Wilt despite him being shorter.
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
[QUOTE=magnax1]I think Wilt's standing reach might be a bit high. Russell and Wilt both said in interviews that Russell had an equal or longer standing reach then Wilt despite him being shorter.[/QUOTE]
You might be mistaking Russell for Thurmond, I've personally never seen that interview you speak of but if they have said that, and you have a link i'd like to watch it. As a 6'11.5" 17 year old he's almost capable of touching the rim flat-footed (In his Chuck Taylors... shoes that won't even prop you up)
KU is the source for his standing reach, and that number is oft-cited by others which I can link tonight. It is well within reason given all his other measurements, and in today's shoes he'd probably register as a 9'7 standing reach - which would be exactly what one would expect based on other peoples measurements at [url]www.draftexpress.com[/url]
Any implication that Russell has a 9'6 standing reach is what'd be hard to believe. Maximum reach maybe, but standing doesn't sound right.
[IMG]http://phillysportsfanatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wilt-chamberlain-50611580.jpg[/IMG]
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Re: Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell - Detailed Player Measurements
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]You might be mistaking Russell for Thurmond, I've personally never seen that interview you speak of but if they have said that, and you have a link i'd like to watch it. As a 6'11.5" 17 year old he's almost capable of touching the rim flat-footed (In his Chuck Taylors... shoes that won't even prop you up)
KU is the source for his standing reach, and that number is oft-cited by others which I can link tonight. It is well within reason given all his other measurements, and in today's shoes he'd probably register as a 9'7 standing reach - which would be exactly what one would expect based on other peoples measurements at [url]www.draftexpress.com[/url]
Any implication that Russell has a 9'6 standing reach is what'd be hard to believe. Maximum reach maybe, but standing doesn't sound right.
[IMG]http://phillysportsfanatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wilt-chamberlain-50611580.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Well thats what he said. I probably won't be able the interview because I don't even remember what the original subject was, but I've heard it said a couple of times so I don't really doubt it.
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[QUOTE=magnax1]Well thats what he said. I probably won't be able the interview because I don't even remember what the original subject was, but I've heard it said a couple of times so I don't really doubt it.[/QUOTE]
Well go ahead and believe that - but it doesn't make Wilt's any less than 9'6, which [I]is[/I] cite-able