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Bigass Poltical thread Part V: The Democratic Convention
The Democratic Convention begins today.
Speakers for[URL="http://www.demconvention.com/speakers/speakers-2/"] the first couple of days are here[/URL]
After that all the Debates are in October.
October 3, 2012
Topic: Domestic policy
Moderator: Jim Lehrer (Host of NewsHour on PBS)
October 11, 2012
Vice Presidential
Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)
October 16, 2012
Topic: Town meeting format including foreign and domestic policy
Moderator: Candy Crowley (CNN Chief Political Correspondent)
October 22, 2012 Topic: Foreign policy
Moderator: Bob Schieffer (Host of Face the Nation on CBS)
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It appears the convention is not helping Mitt enough and you have to go back to Bob Dole to find a convention speech that helped the candidate less.
[QUOTE]Romney post-convention bump looks modest at best
The folks at Gallup have completed their post-GOP convention polling duties, and the reviews are not complimentary. Mitt Romney has enjoyed little or no post-convention bump, and his acceptance speech was rated excellent or good by just 38 percent of those who saw it.
While that may not sound terrible, Gallup reports that it is easily the worst rating given to any of the last eight convention acceptance speeches.[/QUOTE]
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I think it was a brilliant move to let Clinton take the main speech on the next to last day instead of going to Biden as tradition normally dictates.
Biden will speak just before Obama on the last day which should minimize the impact of any gaffs he could have.
I'm guessing the Dems will make a heavy push to remind people what it was like when Clinton was in office.
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Joe Biden provided a glimpse of what we'll see at the convention when he repeated his "bumper sticker" line:
[QUOTE]If you want to know whether we're better off, I got a bumper sticker for you: Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive!"[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/09/rnc-revs-up-counterconvention-in-charlotte-134162.html"]The RNC in Charlotte is holding a counter-convention at NASCAR plaza.[/URL]
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Didn't know they were doing that. Just saw one article where they think that Clinton will point out the Romney is lying about Obama and Welfare in his recent ads.
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[QUOTE=KevinNYC]Didn't know they were doing that. Just saw one article where they think that Clinton will point out the Romney is lying about Obama and Welfare in his recent ads.[/QUOTE]
from the recent New Yorker article on the relationship between Clinton and Obama.
[QUOTE]Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have never been close. Some of their advisers concede that the two men don
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[QUOTE=kentatm]from the recent New Yorker article on the relationship between Clinton and Obama.
Clinton and Obama are probably the two best politicians of our time. Karl Rove is probably the greatest political mind of our time.
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There was a big festival downtown yesterday that got completely ruined by torrential rain and dangerous lightning. James Taylor sang one song and called it quits, lol. The Gods are angry, angry I tell you.
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[QUOTE=rufuspaul]There was a big festival downtown yesterday that got completely ruined by torrential rain and dangerous lightning. James Taylor sang one song and called it quits, lol. The Gods are angry, angry I tell you.[/QUOTE]
[I]"I've seen Fire and I've seen.....OK SHOW'S OVER FOLKS."[/I]
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[QUOTE=KevinNYC][QUOTE=kentatm]
Clinton and [B]Obama [/B]are probably the two best politicians of our time.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
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how can they top Clint Eastwood?
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
facepalm yourself.
learn how to quote people correctly brah.
and Obama did take out the Clinton machine which was pretty damn impressive.
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing][QUOTE=KevinNYC]
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Im hardly an Obama fan, but he is head shoulders above the other politicians on the scene right now...
the landscape is barren...
the GOP has nothing but bums... tomato cans
Newt Gingrinch? :oldlol: That clown wouldnt get the time of day in a field with other REAL politicians...
Bachmann?
Herb Cain? :roll:
Rick Perry?
Santorum? haha..
These guys are junior varsity politicians.. Replacements for real politicians who have for some reason abandoned the scene..
There used to be a good crop of solid politicians out there. Even the Republicans had a few good ones.... They were all liars just like these politicians are today, but they at least knew their stuff and werent so flagrant with the propaganda and dishonest rhetoric...
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[QUOTE=Rasheed1][QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]
Im hardly an Obama fan, but he is head shoulders above the other politicians on the scene right now...
the landscape is barren...
the GOP has nothing but bums... tomato cans
Newt Gingrinch? :oldlol: That clown wouldnt get the time of day in a field with other REAL politicians...
Bachmann?
Herb Cain? :roll:
Rick Perry?
Santorum? haha..
These guys are junior varsity politicians.. Replacements for real politicians who have for some reason abandoned the scene..
There used to be a good crop of solid politicians out there. Even the Republicans had a few good ones.... They were all liars just like these politicians are today, but they at least knew their stuff and werent so flagrant with the propaganda and dishonest rhetoric...[/QUOTE]
You're only naming Republican politicians. Let's be fair, Obama had only 2 months of experience in office prior to being elected. Being a good politician is someone who can be more of a centrist and not as divisive as this administration has been. Reading from a teleprompter all the time doesn't help either. But let's speak truth here, there are far better Democrats than him.
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]
You're only naming Republican politicians. Let's be fair, Obama had only 2 months of experience in office prior to being elected. Being a good politician is someone who can be more of a centrist and not as divisive as this administration has been. Reading from a teleprompter all the time doesn't help either. But let's speak truth here, there are far better Democrats than him.[/QUOTE]
*Im only naming republicans because Obama is an incumbent and there arent any other democratic contenders
*Being a good politician is not exclusively about being a centrist.. or not being divisive.. There are times when each of those traits are needed and times when they are not..
*Obama is light years better than those GOP members I mentioned because he is intelligent... He doesnt act like a pandering jackass (like bachmann, Romney, Newt and the others). I have serious problems with Obama..but he knows he is the better of two bad choices, and that is what Americans have to deal with..
*With Obama being unchallenged, it is difficult to get a feel for some of the
the democrats coming up behind him.. I dont see any real statesmen like Clinton was, or even somebody smart like Rendell
Clinton & Obama are currently the standard by which other politicians are measured
Not saying they are ideal IMO, but they are much more qualified than the rest of these knuckleheads
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The Myrtle Beach tourism board trucked in several tons of sand and spent $30,000 to have an artist sculpt a giant sand likeness of Obama downtown. It didn't look anything like the president and that was before most of it got dissolved in the rains. :oldlol: I still don't understand the reason for the sculpture in the first place other than to tell the world "come to Myrtle Beach, we have sand."
[IMG]http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/rufuspaul/obama-dnc-sand-sculpture-uptown-charlotte-nc.jpg[/IMG]
:facepalm
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Bush ruined it for Republicans for at least 8 years...Obama can thank Bush for his victory
I would like to predict that Paul Ryan will be the next Republican President
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing][QUOTE=KevinNYC]
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
I'm referring to political skills. That's why I said politicians and not presidents.
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]
You're only naming Republican politicians. Let's be fair, Obama had only 2 months of experience in office prior to being elected. Being a good politician is someone who can be more of a centrist and not as divisive as this administration has been. Reading from a teleprompter all the time doesn't help either. But let's speak truth here, there are far better Democrats than him.[/QUOTE]
He got major legislation passed with health care reform.
That was a massive achievement and he went to the middle and adopted a Republican idea to do it.
He is way more of a centrist than he is a liberal.
If you want to talk politicians being divisive you need to look at the Republicans who openly announced from day 1 their only goal was to insure he would be a one term President damage to the country in the short/long term be damned.
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Bush ruined it for Republicans for at least 8 years...Obama can thank Bush for his victory
I would like to predict that Paul Ryan will be the next Republican President[/QUOTE]
No chance in hell.
Jeb Bush has a better shot than he does.
Marco Rubio and Chris Christie are the two frontrunners to take the Repub nomination in 2016 if Romney can't take Obama.
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Where we stand. These sites average polls together according to different models.
Pollster has Romney up by half a % point.
Romney 46.6%
Obama 46.1%
TPM's Polltracker has Obama up by almost half a % point.
Obama 47.3%
Romney 46.9%
538 at the NY Times has Obama up 1.4%
Obama 50.0%
Romney 48.6%
RealClear Politics has Obama up .1%
Obama 46.8%
Romney 46.7%
Those are the national polls. Obama is still leading in most of the swing states and thus has the edge for electoral votes.
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The only one I regularly check is 538 because it did particularly well in 2008.
[QUOTE]Silver's final 2008 presidential election forecast accurately predicted the winner of 49 of the 50 states as well as the District of Columbia (missing only the prediction for Indiana which went to Obama by 1%). As his model predicted, the races in Missouri and North Carolina were particularly close. He also correctly predicted the winners of every U.S. Senate race. [/QUOTE]
He also was within 1% of the overall popular vote
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The Ted Kennedy Tribute gave me goosebumps.
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The Romney/Ryan campaing have put a press release asking [URL="http://www.gop.com/news/press-releases/rnc-and-romney-for-president-release-are-you-better-off/"]Are you better off than you were four years ago?[/URL]
That is the question that they want Americans asking as they watch the Democratic convention.
Four years ago. Four years ago is not January 2009. It's September 2008.
Anyone remember that month? Here's a handy reminder.
[IMG]http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2008_09_wscov1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://mikecanex.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/nypost091608red.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://mikecane2008.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/nydailynews093008.jpg[/IMG]
Here's the Dow Jones Average week by week in 2008
August 29, 2008 11,543.55
September 5, 2008 11,220.96
September 12, 2008 11,421.99
September 19, 2008 11,388.44
September 26, 2008 11,143.13
October 3, 2008 10,325.38
October 10, 2008 8,451.19
October 17, 2008 8,852.22
October 24, 2008 8,378.95
October 31, 2008 9,325.01
November 7, 2008 8,943.81
November 14, 2008 8,497.31
November 21, 2008 8,046.42
November 28, 2008 8,829.04
December 5, 2008 8,635.42
December 12, 2008 8,629.68
December 19, 2008 8,579.11
December 26, 2008 8,515.55
December 31, 2008 8,776.39
January 2, 2009 9,034.69
January 9, 2009 8,599.18
January 16, 2009 8,281.22
January 23, 2009 8,077.56
So yeah, I'm feeling better.
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This guy from Ohio is hitting outsourcing hard.
This is at least three speakers with Ohio ties. Kathleen Sebelius is up and just mentioned her Dad was governor of Ohio.
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Still not a fan of the way outsourcing is demonized by both parties.
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[url]https://twitter.com/SethRoganTV/status/242812109006716928[/url]
[QUOTE=Seth Rogan]that akward moment you realize Mitt Romney
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I wonder what would have happened if Bill Clinton went rogue and endorsed Romney. I don't think Obama would have any chance of winning.
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[QUOTE=General]I wonder what would have happened if Bill Clinton went rogue and endorsed Romney. I don't think Obama would have any chance of winning.[/QUOTE]
Bit of a big if, dontcha think? How do you think that happens? He just forgets the Republicans hounded him for years and then impeached him over his testimony in a frivolous lawsuit?
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[QUOTE=General]I wonder what would have happened if Bill Clinton went rogue and endorsed Romney. I don't think Obama would have any chance of winning.[/QUOTE]
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Didn't see Michelle's speech, but it seems to be pretty well received even among conservative commentators.
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[QUOTE=KevinNYC]Bit of a big if, dontcha think? How do you think that happens? He just forgets the Republicans hounded him for years and then impeached him over his testimony in a frivolous lawsuit?[/QUOTE]
Or that his wife is the Secretary of State :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=dajadeed]Or that his wife is the Secretary of State :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there's a lot of hurdles to clear.
This use of the Clintons as a stick to beat Obama with is pretty funny.
Some examples of this nonsense from earlier in this campaign
[QUOTE]Glenn Beck Prediction | Hillary Clinton Primary | Obama 2012
Cheney: Hillary Clinton Should Primary Obama
Hillary Clinton supporters: Donate $20.12 for 2012 challenge
LOOK FOR HILLARY TO PRIMARY OBAMA IN 2012
Obama fading, Hillary rising, primary challenge looming?
Bill Wanted Hillary to Challenge Obama in This Year's Primary
or if that doesn't happen
Sarah Palin: Biden 'Chains' Remark Should Lead Obama To Replace Him With Hillary Clinton
Meghan McCain: Obama Should Replace Joe Biden With Hillary
John McCain says Obama Would Be ‘Wise’ to Replace Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton on the Ticket
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The winner goes to Charles Krauthammer with his super-genius brand of reverse-psychology.
[QUOTE]Krauthammer: Obama's "Narcissism" Won't Let Him Replace Biden With Hillary[/QUOTE]
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[URL="http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/dnc-night-one-12386889#ixzz25Zndld7S"]Did not know this[/URL]
[QUOTE]Governor Deval Patrick went all preachery and sounded very much like who he is, the son of a man who once played music in Sun Ra's Arkestra.[/QUOTE]
Pat Patrick is on the left.
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I honestly don't get the Biden hate. Criticize his policies and stances sure, that's fine, but I mean his "off the cuff" personality. Isn't that what people have been crying for for...ever? A dude that doesn't bullshit and tells you what he thinks? Say Romney wins and at the presser for the Obamacare repeal an open mic catches Ryan saying "this is a BIG ****ING DEAL!" That shit would be lauded on the right, as it should be.
If you don't like his policy that's fine, I just don't get why people dislike his personality. I personally love the dude.
And **** whatever the right says, Deval Patrick murdered it strictly on the "it's time for Democrats to get a backbone" line alone. Because he's right. **** compromise, Republicans aren't doing it, stop kowtowing.
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[QUOTE=General]I wonder what would have happened if Bill Clinton went rogue and endorsed Romney. I don't think Obama would have any chance of winning.[/QUOTE]
He has already appeared in pro-Obama ads...
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Michelle was wearing that pink dress.
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[url]http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/09/05/3503508/dave-barry-the-cnn-grill-is-for.html[/url]
[Quote]
CHARLOTTE, N.C. There is an innocent explanation for how I wound up on the floor of a bar with the governor of Montana. I was engaging in journalism.
The key to political journalism is to gather insider information, and to do that, you need to go where the political insiders hang out. We
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julian castro? hadnt heard of him before yesterday....but the minute I did, I can see he is like the next big thing.. Him Corey Booker, and couple of other dems..
Latino Obama
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[QUOTE=Rasheed1]julian castro? hadnt heard of him before yesterday....but the minute I did, I can see he is like the next big thing.. Him Corey Booker, and couple of other dems..
Latino Obama[/QUOTE]
If he ever wins the Presidency...it means Castro conquers America.
More seriously, Romney appears to have locked up the coveted [URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2012/09/did-nicki-minaj-really-endorse-mitt-romney-maybe-not-/1#.UEdm0Jbopn5"]Nicki Minaj endorsement.[/URL] (Well, maybe he didn't, but what does it matter anyway?)