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Andrei Kirilenko's AMAZING NBA To Euroleague Stats Increase
[B]Andrei Kirilenko career NBA stats:[/B]
681 Game sample size
30.8 Minutes Per Game
12.4 Points Per Game
5.6 Rebounds Per Game
2.8 Assists Per Game
1.4 Steals Per Game
2.0 Blocks Per game
[B]Andrei Kirilenko career NBA average highs:[/B]
10 year sample size
37.7 Minutes Per Game
16.5 Points Per Game
8.1 Rebounds Per Game
4.3 Assists Per Game
1.9 Steals Per Game
3.3 Blocks Per game
[B]Andrei Kirilenko career Euroleague stats:[/B]
4 Game sample size
29.3 Minutes Per Game
13.0 Points Per Game
9.0 Rebounds Per Game
3.8 Assists Per Game
1.3 Steals Per Game
3.3 Blocks Per game
Oh yeah, and every single season in the NBA (including last year), Kirilenko has 4-5 game stretches with much better stats than what he has so far in the Euroleague.
Clearly, this is undeniable 100%, statistically that the NBA is a bagillion times better than the Euroleague, as Kirilenko has drastically increased his stats.
I mean it's almost ludicrous how much better his Euroleague stats are than his NBA stats..............................................
:rolleyes:
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The point is that his weak stats are eligible for MVP of the week over there, while his weak stats aren't eligible for shit over here in the NBA.
Shows how weak the competition is. If that crap wins MVP, how bad is everyone else playing?
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But those stats in the NBA mean an average starter on a bad team, while in the Euroleague it means he is one of the best players of the decade.
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[QUOTE=LJJ]But those stats in the NBA mean an average starter on a bad team, while in the Euroleague it means he is one of the best players of the decade.[/QUOTE]
This.
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[QUOTE=LJJ]But those stats in the NBA mean an average starter on a bad team, while in the Euroleague it means he is one of the best players of the decade.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Euroleague][B]Andrei Kirilenko career NBA stats:[/B]
681 Game sample size
30.8 Minutes Per Game
12.4 Points Per Game
5.6 Rebounds Per Game
2.8 Assists Per Game
1.4 Steals Per Game
2.0 Blocks Per game
[B]Andrei Kirilenko career NBA average highs:[/B]
10 year sample size
37.7 Minutes Per Game
16.5 Points Per Game
8.1 Rebounds Per Game
4.3 Assists Per Game
1.9 Steals Per Game
3.3 Blocks Per game
[B]Andrei Kirilenko career Euroleague stats:[/B]
4 Game sample size
29.3 Minutes Per Game
13.0 Points Per Game
9.0 Rebounds Per Game
3.8 Assists Per Game
1.3 Steals Per Game
3.3 Blocks Per game
Oh yeah, and every single season in the NBA (including last year), Kirilenko has 4-5 game stretches with much better stats than what he has so far in the Euroleague.
Clearly, this is undeniable 100%, statistically that the NBA is a bagillion times better than the Euroleague, as Kirilenko has drastically increased his stats.
I mean it's almost ludicrous how much better his Euroleague stats are than his NBA stats..............................................
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
better ppts, rebounds, assists, blocks..... Looks better to me. any shooting % on this? of course not.
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[QUOTE=FF1]The point is that his weak stats are eligible for MVP of the week over there, while his weak stats aren't eligible for shit over here in the NBA.
Shows how weak the competition is. If that crap wins MVP, how bad is everyone else playing?[/QUOTE]
The point is you are an idiot.
Euroleague weekly MVP award is give based on the Larry Bird Hockey Stat.
It's not, and never has been, an actual MVP award.
Maybe if people like you would deal with reality here, the level of trolling would be acceptable.
Euroleague MVP of the week is about the single most meaningless award in pro sports world history.
Do you get it? I will explain it again. LARRY BIRD HOCKEY STAT = "Euroleague weekly MVP award".
It's not an actual MVP award, like in the NBA numb nuts. That is the point, that morons like you can't grasp. Damn, there are so many retards in this forum.
The forum guaranteed that Kirilenko would average 30/20 in Euroleague. I was thinking maybe 15/10.
The truth is he is at 13/9 so far, mostly playing against crappy teams. The point is not a one of you seems to be smart enough to realize what epic imbeciles you are, all the while acting like you are such geniuses.
Hell, it would be completely shocking and earth shattering if Kirilenko ever averaged 13/9 in a 4 game stretch in the NBA..........wait, what?
:wtf: :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=LJJ]But those stats in the NBA mean an average starter on a bad team, while in the Euroleague it means he is one of the best players of the decade.[/QUOTE]
This post of yours, means you are retarded.
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damn kirilenkos like the mj of europe. nice battle between him and hedo for that moniker. two nba scrubs battling to be the mj of europe:bowdown:
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[QUOTE=boozehound]better ppts, rebounds, assists, blocks..... Looks better to me. any shooting % on this? of course not.[/QUOTE]
How is that 30/20 guarantee for Kirilenko's Euroleague averages that the forum made going? Care to wager on him averaging that?
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]How is that 30/20 guarantee for Kirilenko's Euroleague averages that the forum made going? Care to wager on him averaging that?[/QUOTE]
please bump the thread where someone (not nick young ****ing with you) seriously says that. Besides, who cares what some random kid who is probably only into fantasy bball says on a forum. why are you so personally offended? what a toolbox you are
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AK 47 resume is growing in Euroleague
MVP for month of October
MVP for week 1
Best player on best team
Beat the defending chump
Despite the homecooked refs
Anthony Parker
You got a competition
LMAO.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague][B]Andrei Kirilenko career NBA stats:[/B]
681 Game sample size
30.8 Minutes Per Game
12.4 Points Per Game
5.6 Rebounds Per Game
2.8 Assists Per Game
1.4 Steals Per Game
2.0 Blocks Per game
[B]Andrei Kirilenko career NBA average highs:[/B]
10 year sample size
37.7 Minutes Per Game
16.5 Points Per Game
8.1 Rebounds Per Game
4.3 Assists Per Game
1.9 Steals Per Game
3.3 Blocks Per game
[B]Andrei Kirilenko career Euroleague stats:[/B]
4 Game sample size
29.3 Minutes Per Game
13.0 Points Per Game
9.0 Rebounds Per Game
3.8 Assists Per Game
1.3 Steals Per Game
3.3 Blocks Per game
Oh yeah, and every single season in the NBA (including last year), Kirilenko has 4-5 game stretches with much better stats than what he has so far in the Euroleague.
Clearly, this is undeniable 100%, statistically that the NBA is a bagillion times better than the Euroleague, as Kirilenko has drastically increased his stats.
I mean it's almost ludicrous how much better his Euroleague stats are than his NBA stats..............................................
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
You ignore shooting percentage again. As usual.
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[QUOTE=Droid101]You ignore shooting percentage again. As usual.[/QUOTE]
And compares career stats (not latest, as he's on the decline already). Bad comparison.
Kirilenko is a 12/5/3 NBA player.
He's now a 13/9/4 Euroleague player in less minutes and on better efficiency. Somehow though, that's "worse than his NBA stats"
Up in everything while down in minutes. Terrible!
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the Yuropoor ignores shooting %? :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Dave3]And compares career stats (not latest, as he's on the decline already). Bad comparison.[/QUOTE]
Yep. Why don't we compare useful stats... say, Kirilenko's 2010-2011 NBA stats to his new shiny Euroleague stats? Okay!
NBA: 11.7 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 3 APG, 1.3 Steals, 1.2 blocks, 1.8 TO, 31.2 minutes. 46% shooting, 37% three pointers, 77% FT.
Euroleague: 13 PPG, 9 RPG, 3.8 APG, 1.3 steals, [B]3.3 blocks[/B], 1.5 TO, 29 minutes. [B]56.67% field goals, 56% three pointers[/B], 72% ft.
Check it. [B]He's increased every single statistical output, in less minutes.[/B] I manually calculated his field goal percentage since they only have 2pt% and 3pt% separate in Euroleague.
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those euroleague stats are misleading because they assume that his talent level stayed constant over his entire career
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[QUOTE=Droid101]Yep. Why don't we compare useful stats... say, Kirilenko's 2010-2011 NBA stats to his new shiny Euroleague stats? Okay!
NBA: 11.7 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 3 APG, 1.3 Steals, 1.2 blocks, 1.8 TO, 31.2 minutes. 46% shooting, 37% three pointers, 77% FT.
Euroleague: 13 PPG, 9 RPG, 3.8 APG, 1.3 steals, [B]3.3 blocks[/B], 1.5 TO, 29 minutes. [B]56.67% field goals, 56% three pointers[/B], 72% ft.
Check it. [B]He's increased every single statistical output, in less minutes.[/B] I manually calculated his field goal percentage since they only have 2pt% and 3pt% separate in Euroleague.[/QUOTE]
Buuuuuuuuut...he's worse statistically....yeah...interesting thread:applause:
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[QUOTE=Burgz]those euroleague stats are misleading because they assume that his talent level stayed constant over his entire career[/QUOTE]The ones I posted? The ones I posted are only for this season.
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[QUOTE=Dave3]Buuuuuuuuut...he's worse statistically....yeah...interesting thread:applause:[/QUOTE]
I think I broke his brain. :lol
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move this out of the NBA forum , and into the Euro forum....
we post PPG here in the NBA forum :lol
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[QUOTE=Droid101]The ones I posted? The ones I posted are only for this season.[/QUOTE]
no the stats Euroleague posted
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[QUOTE=Droid101]You ignore shooting percentage again. As usual.[/QUOTE]
You ignore every single fact about European basketball that there is. As usual.
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[QUOTE=Dave3]And compares career stats (not latest, as he's on the decline already). Bad comparison.
Kirilenko is a 12/5/3 NBA player.
He's now a 13/9/4 Euroleague player in less minutes and on better efficiency. Somehow though, that's "worse than his NBA stats"
Up in everything while down in minutes. Terrible![/QUOTE]
13/9 playing games against crappy teams mostly............
I honestly would have expected 22/12 from him against the teams he played so far on average.
It's extremely low stats considering who he played against so far. Put those stats into later rounds and he would be playing bad.
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[QUOTE=Burgz]no the stats Euroleague posted[/QUOTE]
NBA stats are in a league where defense is banned.
Kindly plug that into your calculator.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]13/9 playing games against crappy teams mostly............
I honestly would have expected 22/12 from him against the teams he played so far on average.
It's extremely low stats considering who he played against so far.[/QUOTE]
This thread isn't about your expectations. It's about his stats increasing or dropping. You claim they've dropped when they've actually increased.
13/9/4/3/1 > 12/5/3/1/1...but not according to you. I'd like the name of your 1st grade math teacher please.
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His stats and FG% have increased, in less minutes then he was getting last year. How is he doing "worse"? No-one cares what you expected him to average, the fact is his numbers have increased while he's been in Europe. :facepalm
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Are we seriously saying that going from a higher scoring system in the NBA to the Euroleague, and scoring the SAME amount points, almost doubling your rebounds, tripling your blocks and shooting 10-15% is not incredible
Good god, I hope none of us ever become a GM of Coach of any kind of professional team
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[QUOTE=Dave3]This thread isn't about your expectations. It's about his stats increasing or dropping. [B]You claim they've dropped when they've actually increased.[/B]
13/9/4/3/1 > 12/5/3/1/1...but not according to you. I'd like the name of your 1st grade math teacher please.[/QUOTE]
OK, you are an idiot.
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[QUOTE=Harrison_Barnes]His stats and FG% have increased, in less minutes then he was getting last year. How is he doing "worse"? No-one cares what you expected him to average, the fact is his numbers have increased while he's been in Europe. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Are you saying that 13/9 against the teams he played so far will hold up for the season? He will maintain even those NBA averages?
You know, past the regular season stage there are actually more than 1/3 slightly hard games.
13/9 so far, might be 8/5 in top 16.
I also love how every one of you ignored the 681 to 4 sample size. Keep up the good work geniuses.
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Euroleague just desperately wants to be loved... [I]some [/I]sort of affection.
that's all that's going on here.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]Are you saying that 13/9 against the teams he played so far will hold up for the season? He will maintain even those NBA averages?
You know, past the regular season stage there are actually more than 1/3 slightly hard games.
13/9 so far, might be 8/5 in top 16.
I also love you every one of you ignored the 681 to 4 sample size. keep up the good work geniuses.[/QUOTE]
Did you just use some what-if scenarios to say that Kirilenko's current accomplishments are worthless because, what if, he isn't consistent?
You're still stupid as f***.
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[QUOTE=7_cody]Did you just use some what-if scenarios to say that Kirilenko's current accomplishments are worthless because, what if, he isn't consistent?
You're still stupid as f***.[/QUOTE]
I am just laughing at how stupid you are. This whole thread will come back to haunt you fools.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]OK, you are an idiot.[/QUOTE]
Jeez, at least keep your lie going. If you're going to tell someone they're on ignore, IGNORE THEM. Don't reply like 45 minutes later :facepalm
I'll give you another chance. I'll pretend I'm being ignored again.
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[QUOTE=7_cody]Are we seriously saying that going from a higher scoring system in the NBA to the Euroleague, and scoring the SAME amount points, almost doubling your rebounds, tripling your blocks and shooting 10-15% is not incredible
Good god, I hope none of us ever become a GM of Coach of any kind of professional team[/QUOTE]
Are you actually saying that those numbers are good considering who he played overall so far?
let me give you a little advice. VTB United League.
You might want to look it up before you completely humiliate yourself later on when the thread is bumped.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]Are you actually saying that those numbers are good considering who he played overall so far?
let me give you a little advice. VTB United League.
You might want to look it up before you completely humiliate yourself later on when the thread is bumped.[/QUOTE]
I'm not going to act like I'm an expert on overseas Basketball. I am not.
The fact that you think your league has more talent than ours is laughable. At first I appreciated your posts, because it's good to see other persepectives and to be reminded that there is great talent everywhere. But you're spreading this myth that Euroleague is far superior to the NBA and we're just too "stupid" to see it.
You have to lack serious basketball knowledge to watch vspan, for example, and come to the conclusion that he's better than the best of the best in the NBA. He's a scrub.
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Spanoulis is not a scrub he's just not the best of the best in NBA.
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[QUOTE=Maga_1]Spanoulis is not a scrub he's just not the best of the best in NBA.[/QUOTE]
No he is not a scrub.
Scrubs are Skip, Luther Head, and Lucas.
If these guys are ahead of you in the food chain
Then you are a waterboy.
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[QUOTE=Maga_1]Spanoulis is not a scrub he's just not the best of the best in NBA.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, I appreciate what I've seen of him as a basketball fan, but he is a scrub by NBA standards.
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[QUOTE=7_cody]Exactly, I appreciate what I've seen of him as a basketball fan, but he is a scrub by NBA standards.[/QUOTE]
I don't know.
By the time that he had playing there, he was a scrub .. you're correct.
But think with me, what if he had the same playing time like Rafer Alston had or other guy like that had?
I ask you this, because one of my favorite of possible my favorite player is Sergio Rodriguez (he's playing like sh"t currently) but everytime that i watched him playing in NBA i thought "what if this guy had like 30 games with 30mpg?" he would be an average PG in my opinion .. better than Duhon, Ridnour .. etc.