explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rosede01.html#2009-2012-sum:per_game"]Pre ACL injury Derrick Rose[/URL] .464
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/westbru01.html#2009-2015-sum:per_game"]Russell Westbrook[/URL] .432
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walljo01.html#2011-2015-sum:per_game"]John Wall[/URL] .431
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
I always felt rose had the freak athletic ability but unlike wall and westbrook
he was always under more control, he has a nicer touch around the rim....
uses english on the ball like gervin and could contort his body like jordan
westbrook and wall always look like they are going 150 mph
maybe that is where the difference is
but knowing ISH's hate for Rose we can probably chalk up this success because of thibs defensive schemes(the only reason they won 62 games and rose got the mvp, if you werent aware)
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
Rose shot like 50% his first two years didn't he? He wasn't taking any threes back then.
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[QUOTE=RRR3]Rose shot like 50% his first two years didn't he? He wasn't taking any threes back then.[/QUOTE]
He got close his second year, I think he hit 49%
Rookie: .475
Second year: .489
But then, his next three seasons...
.445
.435
.354
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
Westbrook is clearly better than Rose ever was. Especially in the postseason.
Re: explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
Rose barely took any 3's his first 2 years. Once he did starting from his MVP season, his FG% dropped.
Re: explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
Mostly due to Thibs defensive schemes, tbh. Which is frankly the reason they won 62 and he got MVP.
Re: explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Mostly due to Thibs defensive schemes, tbh. Which is frankly the reason they won 62 and he got MVP.[/QUOTE]
Lol that was a good one
Re: explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Mostly due to Thibs defensive schemes, tbh. Which is frankly the reason they won 62 and he got MVP.[/QUOTE]
Please draw the connection between defensive schemes and FG% on offense.
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[QUOTE=The_Pharcyde]I always felt rose had the freak athletic ability but unlike wall and westbrook
he was always under more control, he has a nicer touch around the rim....
uses english on the ball like gervin and could contort his body like jordan
westbrook and wall always look like they are going 150 mph
maybe that is where the difference is
but knowing ISH's hate for Rose we can probably chalk up this success because of thibs defensive schemes(the only reason they won 62 games and rose got the mvp, if you werent aware)[/QUOTE]
OK I see the connection Akrazotile.
Yeah, Westbrook is kind of wild no matter how you cut it. Otherwise he does have the best situation in that he isn't the prime concern in the scouting reports coupled with maybe the games best shooter or most unstoppable shooter ever. He also plays with best offensive coach of the bunch and has more screens set for him than the other two.
Wall had shooting problems from the start and isn't as quick as the other two. They slice and dice the defense much more. But he is getting better at shooting. He's more of a passer than Rose and Westbrook.
Rose shooting will increase this year. His shooting was great when he had other shooters around him and an offensive minded coach. A lot of the time its a team situation.
Re: explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
the difference between westbrook and primrose is strictly shot selection. rose plays under control 90% of the time, westbrook goes on a mindless tear 50% of the time.
wall isn't as good at finishing as the other two and also has a bad jumpshot but refuses to stop shooting them. it's getting better so he's doing something right.
by career end i wouldn't be surprised if john wall wound up with the highest fg%... depends how long rose keeps going too i guess
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[QUOTE=Rocketswin2013]Westbrook is clearly better than Rose ever was. Especially in the postseason.[/QUOTE]
No doubting that, I think OP is just saying Rose was more efficient. Which is obviously true.
But, we all know Goatbrook > Rose in the grand scheme of things. I don't think (at least I hope) OP is not trying to draw that conclusion. Never can tell these days though :lol
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[QUOTE=And1AllDay]No doubting that, I think OP is just saying Rose was more efficient. Which is obviously true.
But, we all know Goatbrook > Rose in the grand scheme of things. I don't think (at least I hope) OP is not trying to draw that conclusion. Never can tell these days though :lol[/QUOTE]
i'll take mvp rose over last year's westbrook without thinking twice... mvp rose has predictably become badly underrated
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[QUOTE=RidonKs]i'll take mvp rose over last year's westbrook without thinking twice... mvp rose has predictably become badly underrated[/QUOTE]
Westbrook surpassed Rose years ago. Not even close now. Dude just put up 28/7/9/2. MVP doe.
Re: Explain why theres a huge gap in career FG% between Rose, Westbrook and Wall?
[QUOTE=RRR3]Westbrook surpassed Rose years ago. Not even close now. Dude just put up 28/7/9/2. MVP doe.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully one day you will watch basketball and see the value of playing the game in a smart team context. He was good, very good, but was wild and undisciplined. I rather have Kidd's 17 and 9 any day of the week. Don't hypnotize yourself with numbers.