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Looked justified to me
Also to the OP, there is a difference between detainment and arrest, one insinuates enough probable evidence for conviction. Do you know what that video shows?
Tyler, the Creator used to live there.
Pretty cool vid.
What was the guy doing in the first place is what I want to know. The dog is innocent in all of this, I think that is where the issue lies. But what was that guy trying to gain from filming the cops, he could have just gotten in his car and driven away.
[QUOTE=miller-time]What was the guy doing in the first place is what I want to know. The dog is innocent in all of this, I think that is where the issue lies. But what was that guy trying to gain from filming the cops, he could have just gotten in his car and driven away.[/QUOTE]
I didn't watch the video, I don't need to watch a dog get shot, but nobody should need a reason to film the police. They should be accountable at all times.
[QUOTE=bmulls]I didn't watch the video, I don't need to watch a dog get shot, but nobody should need a reason to film the police. They should be accountable at all times.[/QUOTE]
He was interacting with them too, other people were filming (such as the person filming the video we are watching) but they kept their distance. This guy was driving past and gets out of his car and starts filming and interacting with the cops. You can see the first part here (no dog shooting).
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI&feature=player_detailpage#t=77s[/url]
The cop shooting the dog is just complete carelessness and indifference on this cops' part. That did not at all need to happen. He was just like **** it, I need to look tough.
Police shouldn't be shooting at a dog.
Dog? Really?
[QUOTE=OhNoTimNoSho]The cop shooting the dog is just complete carelessness and indifference on this cops' part. That did not at all need to happen. He was just like **** it, I need to look tough.[/QUOTE]
he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.
I'm as much an animal lover as anyone, but the officer's actions were entirely within reason. The owner is entirely at fault from what I'm looking at. The owner didn't properly secure the dog in the first place. Then the officer tried to get a handle on the dog's leash, attempted non-lethal force and then resorted to his sidearm when the dog continued being aggressive.
If it comes down to a dog's life or my well being, the dog goes down every single time...and I say this as a responsible dog owner myself who would be absolutely crushed to see my friend and companion die this needlessly. Hell, it hurts to see that video. All that being said, the officer is the absolute last person I blame here.
Calling this police officer a murderer, like some of these halfwits on Facebook are doing, is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Bandito]he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.[/QUOTE]
Probably better to have the owner calm the dog down.
Blood of the dog is in the owner's hand. Didn't secure it properly.
Such a loyal dog too, which got it killed.
Never bring a Rottweiler to a gun fight.
I feel sorry for the dog but his owner is an idiot
The police are a bunch of wimps. If you are trained to serve and protect the public and you are afraid of a dog?
The dog is not going to kill a grown ass man, who is trained, such as that police officer. You're going to tell me a trained man is afraid of a dog bite?
What kind of trained law enforcement is he to be afraid of a dog and a dog bite to have to pull out his gun. A dog is not a life and death situation.
:facepalm
[QUOTE=9erempiree]The police are a bunch of wimps. If you are trained to serve and protect the public and you are afraid of a dog?
The dog is not going to kill a grown ass man, who is trained, such as that police officer. You're going to tell me a trained man is afraid of a dog bite?
What kind of trained law enforcement is he to be afraid of a dog and a dog bite to have to pull out his gun. A dog is not a life and death situation.
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
:facepalm @ everything you just posted.
[QUOTE=daily]Never bring a Rottweiler to a gun fight.
I feel sorry for the dog but his owner is an idiot[/QUOTE]
Agreed. While I don't think the cops handled the situation the best, the owner brought a lot of it on himself (his detainment, not the shooting).
Sees a raid, oh I know what I will do I will start yelling to the cops about civil rights and racism!
[QUOTE=Derka]:facepalm @ everything you just posted.[/QUOTE]
Explain to me why the police is justified to shoot the dog? Was his life at stake?
Dog bite? Really?
Obviously you have never been bitten by a dog.
Hope the cop doesnt lose his job. Im sure people are calling for his head.
But its still ****ed up to kill a dog, even if it was being the aggressor. Im sure there is better way to deal with a ****ing dog trying to bite you. Being a cop is a thankless and high stress job.
[QUOTE=Bandito]he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.[/QUOTE]
The dog wasn't being that aggressive, it only snapped at him when he aggressively approached it.
Dont get me wrong, the owner practically caused everything himself. But still the cops should have had some concern for the innocent dog.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]Explain to me why the police is justified to shoot the dog? Was his life at stake?
Dog bite? Really?
Obviously you have never been bitten by a dog.[/QUOTE]
Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.
[QUOTE=Bandito]he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.[/QUOTE]
thats so stupid. So cops can shoot and kill anything they are afraid of even if its not a threat to their life? great logic there buddy. hopefully you dont plan on becoming a cop. we dont need any more scums like that.
[QUOTE=bmulls]Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.[/QUOTE]
Why are so obsessed with me? You are clearly upset with me.
[url]http://youtu.be/xTVTfLfwrrw?t=49s[/url]
[QUOTE=bmulls]Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.[/QUOTE]
If you watch the video.. its kind of fvcked up. Dog gets shot right in the chest and rolls around while its chest is opened up. Can see why p-eople think it looked cruel
[QUOTE=bmulls][B]Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum[/B]. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.[/QUOTE]
awww dude why'd you have to go and tell him that?
[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]thats so stupid. So cops can shoot and kill anything they are afraid of even if its not a threat to their life? great logic there buddy. hopefully you dont plan on becoming a cop. we dont need any more scums like that.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry. He's probably a big reason why hookers should be on birth controls.
How can you shoot these kind of dogs.
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This video tore me up. What a stupid ****ing cop.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]Explain to me why the police is justified to shoot the dog? Was his life at stake?
Dog bite? Really?
Obviously you have never been bitten by a dog.[/QUOTE]
Because their training doesn't say "Oh, take a chance that this dog won't bite you because he totally might not", you twit. Obviously you're a nincompoop if all you have to stand on is "His life wasn't in danger because dog bites aren't dangerous.".
First off, the officer has no way of gauging how dangerous that dog is about to become at a given moment. Also, not sure if you were paying attention but they were already focused on a stand-off situation with an active SWAT presence...this guy decided to not only make himself a distraction in an already tense situation, but he then failed to properly secure the animal he got involved in it as well. The video clear as day shows the officer try several times to restrain the animal without using force. You can quite clearly hear an attempt to taze it. The dog continues to get more aggressive after each attempt while the owner continues berating the police for doing, you know, their jobs. Dogs feed off their owner's aggressive behavior...just like that one was doing.
I ran a paper route at age 12 and volunteer at a local dog/cat rescue when I have time on weekends. I've been bitten by more dogs in one month than most people have scratched behind the ears in their lifetimes. I'm not thrilled that the dog got shot, but if I'm in that officer's shoes I do the exact same thing.
I'm not continuing this any further with you because your point of view is grounded on nothing that resembles reality.
I knew ISH was full of morons but wow didn't realize it was this bad -- thanks to all the people that have brains and can think for themselves, help spread this video any way you can.
So people are mad that the guy was filming the cops? Why shouldn't cops be filmed? They are public employees paid with taxpayer monies and you can't justify arresting someone for filming them. THis is your typical power trip by the police officer to show how big he is. And then killing the dog was the last straw for me.
Typical braindead meatheads joining the police force...
The type of people that are attracted to the power of being a police officer are the last people who should have it. Most of the cops I've ever interacted with have been creeps.
It's not illegal to film cops as long as you are not interfering in their duties.
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i guess post was deleted.
StocktonFan felt like a dumbass and had to delete his post. Not its not illegal to film a police officer in California.
thats my hood
Nope i guess not in Cali, but in 12 states it is.
[QUOTE=bmulls]Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.[/QUOTE]
what happens in the nba forum stays there, don't bring that shyt here
Don't all officers have batons?
[QUOTE=ALBballer]So people are mad that the guy was filming the cops? Why shouldn't cops be filmed? They are public employees paid with taxpayer monies and you can't justify arresting someone for filming them. THis is your typical power trip by the police officer to show how big he is. And then killing the dog was the last straw for me.
Typical braindead meatheads joining the police force...[/QUOTE]
The guy wasn't JUST filming the cops though was he. Dozens of people were filming the cops and weren't detained. Tell me what you think he did differently from the people that were filming him.
The cops handled this poorly, but that guy was a f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking idiot. He couldn't have known it would end up the way it did, but he should be aware enough to know you don't insert yourself into a situation where there are half a dozen cop cars and an obvious arrest or raid going on.
You know you're in the hood when blacks all roll in to video tape a situation... MYOB assholes, and more often then not "worldstar" is yelled as if it's going to propel them into stardom.
but maybe that's the hope they need to get out of that shithole they call home.