Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

He beat the following teams:

1. Washington Wizards (41-41)
Best players: Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jameson, Caron Butler

2. New Jersey NETS (41-41)
Best players: past prime Vince Carter, Nenad Krstic, past prime Kidd.

3. Detroit Pistons (53-29)
Best players: Rip Hamilton (led in minutes and PPG), Billups (shot 42% on the season), Rasheed Wallace (shot 43% from the field, 32 years old)

Washington and New Jersey wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs in the West and Detroit was over the hump and would have been a 4 or 5 seed.
Obviously it's a decent feat...but his supporting cast was as good/if not better than the rest of the teams in the East (outside of Detroit...maybe)

Kobe would have taken that team to the finals. MJ would have. Shaq would have. Hell, Melo would have a shot with that team.

And then he got completely embarrassed against the Spurs. Not impressed.

[QUOTE=Nebraskanball]He beat the following teams:

1. Washington Wizards (41-41)
Best players: Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jameson, Caron Butler

2. New Jersey NETS (41-41)
Best players: past prime Vince Carter, Nenad Krstic, past prime Kidd.

3. Detroit Pistons (53-29)
Best players: Rip Hamilton (led in minutes and PPG), Billups (shot 42% on the season), Rasheed Wallace (shot 43% from the field, 32 years old)

Washington and New Jersey wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs in the West and Detroit was over the hump and would have been a 4 or 5 seed.
Obviously it's a decent feat...but his supporting cast was as good/if not better than the rest of the teams in the East (outside of Detroit...maybe)

Kobe would have taken that team to the finals. MJ would have. Shaq would have. Hell, Melo would have a shot with that team.

And then he got completely embarrassed against the Spurs. Not impressed.[/QUOTE]

did u look at LeBron's supporting cast? :confusedshrug:

Lebron could have played 1-5 and still win 60+ games. the GOAT!!!

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[QUOTE=dh144498]Lebron could have played 1-5 and still win 60+ games. the GOAT!!!

:bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
I could have scraped together 40 wins in the East that year.

Nobody besides maybe Jordan could have taken that team to the Finals. Shaq needed superstar help basically every year he ever won a title.

Kobe? :roll: LeBron led that Cavs team past a Pistons team that not too long ago shut Kobe down in the Finals to the tune of 38.1 FG%. And that was when he had maybe the most stacked team ever in prime Shaq, Malone AND Payton! No effing way would Kobe get them to the Finals. He needs prime Shaq and/or prime Gasol/Odom/Bynum to reach the Finals.

He was very young. And even though the East sucked its still impressive.

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]did u look at LeBron's supporting cast? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Did you look at the teams he played against?

Daniel Gibson, a rookie 2nd round pick PG was his 2nd option by the time they got to the ECF.

[QUOTE=Nebraskanball]
Kobe would have taken that team to the finals.[/QUOTE]


:no:

yes. kobes first three rings and fmvp in 2010. oh and his lifetime achievement mvp award that media gifted him out of condolence.

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Daniel Gibson, a rookie 2nd round pick PG was his 2nd option by the time they got to the ECF.[/QUOTE]
Daniel Gibson played 20.1 minutes per game in the playoffs that year. Don't make stuff up. He was the 6th man and took 5 shots a game. LOL.
Maybe it was because he had a center (Big Z) that was shooting 50% and pulling down 10 boards?
Gibson was the 10th best player on the team in terms of PER.

That team was deep, had some quality players, and with Lebron..was as solid a lineup anyone in the East had.

You Lebron defenders know no bounds.

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Daniel Gibson, a rookie 2nd round pick PG was his 2nd option by the time they got to the ECF.[/QUOTE]

Lol i laughed when you said Gibson was the second option. Might as well throw in the waterboy as the third option

I guess anyone could have won that G5 for the Cavs:confusedshrug:

T-Mac would have made it to the Finals with that cast.

Playing with soft, quickly winded Yao in the West with abysmal surrounding pieces is much harder than getting at least a semi-decent cast in the East.

[QUOTE=Nebraskanball]He beat the following teams:

1. Washington Wizards (41-41)
Best players: [B]Gilbert Arenas[/B], Antawn Jameson, [B]Caron Butler[/B]

2. New Jersey NETS (41-41)
Best players: past prime Vince Carter, Nenad Krstic, past prime Kidd.

3. Detroit Pistons (53-29)
Best players: Rip Hamilton (led in minutes and PPG), Billups (shot 42% on the season), Rasheed Wallace (shot 43% from the field, 32 years old)

Washington and New Jersey wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs in the West and Detroit was over the hump and would have been a 4 or 5 seed.
Obviously it's a decent feat...but his supporting cast was as good/if not better than the rest of the teams in the East (outside of Detroit...maybe)

Kobe would have taken that team to the finals. MJ would have. Shaq would have. Hell, Melo would have a shot with that team.

And then he got completely embarrassed against the Spurs. Not impressed.[/QUOTE]

You mave have forgotten but that Wizards team didn't have two of their top three players (Arenas and Caron Butler) in the playoffs because they were injured. That team was mediocre to begin with but they were practically a D-League team without Arenas and Butler.