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Meticode 10-21-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReal Kendall
That's true but that still doesn't mean that they have to retire mediocre players.

Might as well retire Mo Williams jersey also.

Only played a few seasons with Cleveland, not worthy. Z is worthy of it.

Uncle Drew 10-21-2013 06:13 PM

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If Andy V is able to stay healthy for four or five more years, he'll probably get his jersey retired too. In fact, I am almost 100% sure he will.

D.J. 10-21-2013 06:14 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by TheReal Kendall
That's true but that still doesn't mean that they have to retire mediocre players.

Might as well retire Mo Williams jersey also.



Mo Williams was a Cav for 2 1/2 seasons. Z was there for 14, was a solid 15-16/8 2 BPG player and was a multiple time All-Star.

Meticode 10-21-2013 06:15 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle Drew
If Andy V is able to stay healthy for four or five more years, he'll probably get his jersey retired too. In fact, I am almost 100% sure he will.

Hope not, even with what you mentioned.

Uncle Drew 10-21-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by Meticode
Hope not, even with what you mentioned.

I'm fully expecting him to. He's already going into his 10th year as a Cavalier, that's a lot. Might have an All Star appearance or two at that time too. I think he would deserve it, if he can stay healthy, of course.

TheReal Kendall 10-21-2013 06:23 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle Drew
I'm fully expecting him to. He's already going into his 10th year as a Cavalier, that's a lot. Might have an All Star appearance or two at that time too. I think he would deserve it, if he can stay healthy, of course.


Geez! I feel sorry for Cavs fans.

Andy V getting his jersey retired is a bigger joke than Big Z.

D.J. 10-21-2013 06:24 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle Drew
I'm fully expecting him to. He's already going into his 10th year as a Cavalier, that's a lot. Might have an All Star appearance or two at that time too. I think he would deserve it, if he can stay healthy, of course.



Z's career was supposed to be over in 2000. He had multiple foot surgeries and bounced back to be a top 5(or borderline) center at his best and an All-Star. Varejao's best staistical seasons, he only played in 25 games each time. And he's not nearly as respected as Ilgauskas.

Uncle Drew 10-21-2013 06:31 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by D.J.
Z's career was supposed to be over in 2000. He had multiple foot surgeries and bounced back to be a top 5(or borderline) center at his best and an All-Star. Varejao's best staistical seasons, he only played in 25 games each time. And he's not nearly as respected as Ilgauskas.

Yeah, I know. As I said in a previous post, Z has meant a lot to both the city and the franchise. But if Andy could get to those 15 years (which I think he won't), he might have a case.

magnax1 10-21-2013 06:36 PM

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He was an all star who played there for a decade. Besides, who else do they have to retire other than price?

D.J. 10-21-2013 06:49 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle Drew
Yeah, I know. As I said in a previous post, Z has meant a lot to both the city and the franchise. But if Andy could get to those 15 years (which I think he won't), he might have a case.



Even if he did, just hasn't done enough on or off the court. He didn't even crack double digit points until the lockout season. 15 seasons isn't going to matter. He's 31 coming off a major injury and hasn't done anything significant in any full season he's played.

TylerOO 10-21-2013 06:53 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
I heard Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall are getting their's retired too.

Meticode 10-21-2013 06:55 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by TylerOO
I heard Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall are getting their's retired too.

They didn't play here long enough.

FatComputerNerd 10-21-2013 06:57 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
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Originally Posted by TylerOO
I heard Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall are getting their's retired too.


Don't forget Ira Newble!

J/K. Big Z deserves it. Congratulations to him I say! :cheers:

Meticode 10-21-2013 06:58 PM

Re: Cavs to retire Big Z's No. 11 jersey
 
Favorite time during his career was when he rocked the beard...


DukeDelonte13 10-21-2013 07:04 PM

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Not one cavs fan is surprised.

I'm glad he's still a part of the organization.


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