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East asian exchange students - your experience?
In Sweden we have plenty of exchange students from east asia,[B][/B] mainly chinese and korean and I keep getting dumbfounded by how plenty of them behave.
I've been living in dorms with a shared kitchen before in Sweden and now I'm currently in one as well because me and my girlfriend are waiting to move in to our new apartment which we just bought.
Anyway, where I live now I share kitchen with 3 chinese, 2 korean and one jamaican student and the east asian students live like pigs. And it's been the same every time I've shared kitchen with east asian exchange students, they are socially retarded and they never speak with anyone who's not a fellow countrymen and they are dirty as hell. I've been doing their dishes since I got back from the US because the pigs never clean their stuff after cooking and they don't through out the garbage either.
I've been in a couple of East Asian countries before and I never experienced anything of what I'm seeing now. Is it the younger generation that is like this or what?
And yeah, CharlesOakley is a bitch.
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Basically you just got a bunch of slobs. It has nothing to do with anything else except that.
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Can second the socially retarded aspect. It sucks because their tiger moms thought that monetary and education success was the key to fulfillment and neglected the whole friendship and relationship part of the human experience. Over and over again. ANd boy do they suffer. And do we suffer too.
Not too sure about the cleanliness appeal to it. Chinese restaurants are pretty rundown and well the air pollution sucks. I guess being super status conscious they don't divert energy to household hygiene. Or their strict parents set such high rigid cleaning standards at home that they seize any opportunity to make pigpiles.
mill check out this thread: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101792[/url]
PS i can say whatever the fukk i want cuz where im form its just as bad if not worse :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=niko]Basically you just got a bunch of slobs. It has nothing to do with anything else except that.[/QUOTE]
I really want to believe that and these guys are nothing like the people I met when I was in East Asia and I always get amazed by the East Asian culture and history. I have no racist beliefs when it comes to asians or anyone else, don't get fooled by my lame punchlines about Godzuki, those were only because I wanted him to freak out.
But seriously, I've seen too many socially retarded and dirty exchange students from East Asia. I'm starting to think that these are the kids that have rich parents and who never had to work on their personalities or anything else because they were born with a silver spoon, it's mind boggling to see how these guys behave and how they interact with people who are not from the same country as themselves.
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I can confidently attest that the majority of Jamaican people are obnoxious. Especially the women.
My best friend is Jamaican and even he can't stand other Jamaican people.
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[QUOTE=StroShow4]I can confidently attest that the majority of Jamaican people are obnoxious. Especially the women.[/QUOTE]
Have met too few jamaicans to make such a statement but my neighbor is actually a good kid. Although you can tell that he's from a 3rd world country and that he's brainwashed with nonsense about christianity like many other people are from developing countries where religion has a big stage in their culture and lives.
His jamaican friend is the most obnoxious female I've ever met though, seriously, so extremely arrogant and ignorant. She is always dead serious and she feels free to make fun of everyone else but as soon as someone makes the most friendly joke about her she gives people "the look" and act like she's the most amazing person ever.
But again, I've met too few jamaicans so I won't judge millions of people based on like 5 people.
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[QUOTE=JEFFERSON MONEY]Can second the socially retarded aspect. It sucks because their tiger moms thought that monetary and education success was the key to fulfillment and neglected the whole friendship and relationship part of the human experience. Over and over again. ANd boy do they suffer. And do we suffer too.
Not too sure about the cleanliness appeal to it. Chinese restaurants are pretty rundown and well the air pollution sucks. I guess being super status conscious they don't divert energy to household hygiene. Or their strict parents set such high rigid cleaning standards at home that they seize any opportunity to make pigpiles.
mill check out this thread: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101792[/url]
PS i can say whatever the fukk i want cuz where im form its just as bad if not worse :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Dude, did you see my love poem about you?
And haha, what did I just read?
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It's most likely a chain effect. It starts with one person not doing the dish, then another person sees it and say well fck it i'm not doing mine until that guy cleans his.
Then they see this guy cleaning all the dishes for them :lol
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So basically it sounds like some Asian exchange students got themselves a maid when they moved in with the OP.
And the reason they seem socially awkward to you is because they tend not to socialize with the help
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[QUOTE=millwad]But again, I've met too few jamaicans so I won't judge millions of people based on like 5 people.[/QUOTE]
I've probably met a hundred and maybe three have been tolerable.
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I thought OP was a multiculturalist liberal? Or does he just like black people?:confusedshrug:
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[QUOTE=millwad]In Sweden we have plenty of exchange students from east asia,[B][/B] mainly chinese and korean and I keep getting dumbfounded by how plenty of them behave.
I've been living in dorms with a shared kitchen before in Sweden and now I'm currently in one as well because me and my girlfriend are waiting to move in to our new apartment which we just bought.
Anyway, where I live now I share kitchen with 3 chinese, 2 korean and one jamaican student and the east asian students live like pigs. And it's been the same every time I've shared kitchen with east asian exchange students, they are socially retarded and they never speak with anyone who's not a fellow countrymen and they are dirty as hell. I've been doing their dishes since I got back from the US because the pigs never clean their stuff after cooking and they don't through out the garbage either.
I've been in a couple of East Asian countries before and I never experienced anything of what I'm seeing now. Is it the younger generation that is like this or what?
And yeah, CharlesOakley is a bitch.[/QUOTE]
The social retardation is a part of their culture, they simply never learned how to socialize that way. You can see the difference when you hang out with white-washed Asians, they are very outgoing, chill, etc.
The thing with the dirty kitchen, I'm guessing that exchange students from East Asia are most likely the privileged ones who have maids to cook, clean, etc.? Or maybe their mothers do everything for them and they've never washed a dish in their life? Plus more traditional gender roles? A lot of them probably live with their parents, wife moves into sons house, etc., so you probably have the wife, mother, grandma, daughter cooking and cleaning all the time.
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[QUOTE=millwad]
I've been in a couple of East Asian countries before and I never experienced anything of what I'm seeing now. Is it the younger generation that is like this or what?
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Never been to China I guess? The Chinese don't give a f[COLOR="Black"]uck.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=millwad]
But seriously, I've seen too many socially retarded and dirty exchange students from East Asia. [B]I'm starting to think that these are the kids that have rich parents and who never had to work on their personalities or anything else because they were born with a silver spoon,[/B] it's mind boggling to see how these guys behave and how they interact with people who are not from the same country as themselves.[/QUOTE]
As someone who works in China and teaches rich kids.
Bingo.
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I've noticed the same thing with Asian schoolkids too. The ones that have grown up here are pretty normal, but kids who come over for college are autistic as hell.
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I second that millwad, I too had exactly the same experience they also would invite their other Chinese friends to our kitchen and occupy that place from 3PM to 3AM at least 3 times a week. All the while cooking and playing card and board games while shouting out, screaming, making it impossible for anyone in the corridor to study or relax.
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OP, how do you view romanian people that live in Sweden? Some swedish friends speak about them like they're aids.
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[QUOTE=FPJ]OP, how do you view romanian people that live in Sweden? Some swedish friends speak about them like they're aids.[/QUOTE]
Hold on a second. Are you talking about ethnically romanian or gypsies? Everybody know in eastern europe which etnical group is the plague.
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I dont understand your question. They said romanians not gypsies but they could have meant gypsies. Is there any difference?
Edit: I see you're from Bulgaria so you might know better since they mentioned bulgarians as well.
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[QUOTE=millwad]I really want to believe that and these guys are nothing like the people I met when I was in East Asia and I always get amazed by the East Asian culture and history. I have no racist beliefs when it comes to asians or anyone else, don't get fooled by my lame punchlines about Godzuki, those were only because I wanted him to freak out.
But seriously, I've seen too many socially retarded and dirty exchange students from East Asia. I'm starting to think that these are the kids that have rich parents and who never had to work on their personalities or anything else because they were born with a silver spoon, it's mind boggling to see how these guys behave and how they interact with people who are not from the same country as themselves.[/QUOTE]
The main reason is probably because their language skills suck. If you went over exchange to China with very limited Chinese, wouldn't you try to stick with other white people rather than risk embarrassing yourself? It's easy to criticise people when they are out of their comfort zone and you're not, and it's very tempting to just meld back with your ethnic group that you are comfortable with, rather than meeting new foreign people.
I'm not saying I agree with it at all, but I believe that's how it generally works. IMO, it does kind of defeat the whole point of going on exchange in the first place.
[QUOTE]I second that millwad, I too had exactly the same experience they also would invite their other Chinese friends to our kitchen and occupy that place from 3PM to 3AM at least 3 times a week. All the while cooking and playing card and board games while shouting out, screaming, making it impossible for anyone in the corridor to study or relax.[/QUOTE]
Have you tried asking them to be quiet?
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[QUOTE=FPJ]OP, how do you view romanian people that live in Sweden? Some swedish friends speak about them like they're aids.[/QUOTE]
We have alot of romanian gyspies in Sweden and there are people who despise them, personally I have a hard time disliking a people who come from tough background and who never had the privileges I had and have.
And especially when it comes to gypsies, probably the most hated people in Europe and they've been stalked and abused for decades but they always tend to get forgotten. Nazi Germany killed around 500 000 gypsies but you never hear a word about it, almost like they aren't even worth a mention.
And bottom line, I'm for a multicultural country and Sweden is a country with enough resources to be able to help people in need.
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In America atleast we were always taught that Hitler killed loads of gypsies, along with communists and trade unionists and homosexuals and polish, maybe they don't talk about the holocaust in europe as much as they do in US schools.
Also, not all are dirt poor. My cousin worked for the UN in Kosovo. This is what he told me about 7 years ago so I don't know how it is now. But apparently the gypsies dress in dirty clothes and beg on the streets there while at the same time they own the biggest mansion in the city and several expensive sports cars. They all team up their money together over there and they earn alot. Of course I'm not saying they live in the lap of luxury, but not all of them have it as bad as you'd believe based on how they often look begging in the streets. In Oslo too I remember there is a graveyard next to Frognerparken, the biggest park in the city, and the largest and most expensive grave belongs to a self proclaimed "Queen of the gypsies". That's what it said on her tombstone atleast. It was atleast twice as big as any other graves in the graveyard, complete with a massive color photo and loads of fresh flower bouquets around the grave. Other graves were dirty and hers was polished. Pretty sure Henrik Ibsen was even buried there and the gypsy queens grave dwarfed his.
Yep I agree with you though, they're one of those races I never hear anyone defend if a racist remark is made about them. Not cool.
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[QUOTE=FPJ]I dont understand your question. They said romanians not gypsies but they could have meant gypsies. Is there any difference?
Edit: I see you're from Bulgaria so you might know better since they mentioned bulgarians as well.[/QUOTE]
I though you were Romanian. Yeah theres a huge difference. Whole eastern Europe is plagued by them Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia and so on.
These people ethnically do not belong to any of the mentioned nations. They are believed to originate from India, but no one knows for sure. The thing is that they are born here and according to the constitution they get citizenship. And on their ID/Passport under nationality it says Bulgarian/Romanian, you get the picture. I believe the situation is the same in many countries around the world, if a person is born on your land he gets citizenship.
That tactic i think was massively used by emigrants from north African countries that want to migrate to France. For instance a whole family enters illegally France, while the wife is pregnant in the 8th month, she gives birth there and there you go a brand new citizen of France. And the whole family gets to stay and is entitled to social benefits.
Back on the gypsies, they have been around for couple of hundred years. Their population has exploded in the last 20 years for some reason(after the fall of the communism). They usually live in a separate neighborhood which in most cases looks like the 3rd world. I've seen many pictures from Romania where they live in tents or abandoned buildings. They are uneducated, barely speak local languages. In my country the people that speak proper Bulgarian is probably less than 1 in 1000 (personal observation). They steal a lot (usually metal to sell for scrap or copper wires), domestic crime is something usual. Two weeks ago there's a dispute in one of those neighborhoods, two dead.
Now the worst part they have plenty of kids, girls giving birth at the age as early as 13. I remember seeing on tv several identical cases where a 28 old woman is a grandmother. I've seen other under the age of 30 having 7-8 kids. They rely mostly on social benefits.
As i mentioned they are uneducated so you can image what qualifications and skills they have. Big part of them barely graduates elementary school, another big part 8th grade and the number of successfully finishing high school is a joke. Although the number might be slightly higher in the last several years because of the dropping standards in school.
They have a tradition to buy their brides. There was TV investigation about "marketplace" meeting for buying wives. Girls as young as 13-14 getting sold. The son usually don't get choose his wife. I've spoke with one that lives in my neighborhood and he told that he doesn't love his wife but didn't had a choice. When you pay for your wife, you have to return your investment so you send your wife to steal in western Europe. I've also seen underage prostitutes (11-13-14-15... you get the point).
Also they have a hierarchy in their own ethnicity, Kardarashi being on the bottom. Ross Camp did a show on them, but i wouldn't recommend as it's lame and doesn't represent the reality as it is. The guy that lives in my hood is on top the hierarchy. But he is still uneducated and a criminal. I remember talking counterfeit money and trying to smuggle them in a country in western europe.
Gypsies are recognized as good dancers/singers. But i hate their music because its moraly degrading and resembles too much oriental music.
There was another publication about gypsies in Germany. There are LOTS of compaints, becasue some of them moved there, took over an abandoned building and settle there. And basically continue with their usual lifestyle filling for social benefits, which they are entitled to because they are EU citizens (which in western europe are IN SEVERAL TIMES higher than eastern) dumpster diving, a bit of stealing, begging, prostituation and so on.
Same story aplies about them in UK as well when it comes to social benefits.
I've had two of them in my elementary class. Had no interest in school subject by the end of 2nd grade they had to start it again. In highschool met another one he was 16 and still in the 7th grade. He had been married once but "returned" the wife because she had asthma. It was obvious that his dad was some kind of rich on a local scale that's why he stayed in school.
Physical they look different from ethnical, they seem to shorter than average bulgarians, and also their skin color is from light brown to dark brown. Very much resembling Indians.
Couple of years ago France was so fed up with them they deported 1000 of them back to Romania and Bulgaria. Heres report this time about Norway complaing about them and even threatening to leave Shengen because of the problem.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUCse8D7Oo[/url]
The 1000 that were deported from France, were given 50(or 500 cant remember exactly) Euro and free plane ride back "home". Another win for the multicultural society of EU.
Heres another video thats shows english house representative in of the ghetto on the outskrits of your capital [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90lebI9YFrI[/url] The video speaks for itself.
For comparison heres another video of the capital city Sofia: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLJAmYC89JU[/url] The city itself was founded 5k years before Rome.
Another gypsy ghetto in Bulgaria: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-eWi4aB5JA[/url]
Heres' their music what it sounds like: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HiNtA-7nhE[/url]
Also they are involved in MASSIVE voter fraud, their votes selling as cheap as ~13$.
and so on and on...
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[QUOTE=Nick Young]In America atleast we were always taught that Hitler killed loads of gypsies, along with communists and trade unionists and homosexuals and polish, maybe they don't talk about the holocaust in europe as much as they do in US schools.
Also, not all are dirt poor. My cousin worked for the UN in Kosovo. This is what he told me about 7 years ago so I don't know how it is now. But apparently the gypsies dress in dirty clothes and beg on the streets there while at the same time they own the biggest mansion in the city and several expensive sports cars. They all team up their money together over there and they earn alot. Of course I'm not saying they live in the lap of luxury, but not all of them have it as bad as you'd believe based on how they often look begging in the streets. In Oslo too I remember there is a graveyard next to Frognerparken, the biggest park in the city, and the largest and most expensive grave belongs to a self proclaimed "Queen of the gypsies". That's what it said on her tombstone atleast. It was atleast twice as big as any other graves in the graveyard, complete with a massive color photo and loads of fresh flower bouquets around the grave. Other graves were dirty and hers was polished. Pretty sure Henrik Ibsen was even buried there and the gypsy queens grave dwarfed his.
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Theres also truth here. They organize begging rings and move to other countries. But i am too tired right now.
Little known fact is that Bulgaria is the only country that saved its jews during WW2. 45k lives were saved. On paper we were Germany ally but in reality not. After the war began Hitler quickly reached our north border with 1.5 million well trained and cutting edge technology army for the time. We had two chances to comply with them or fight them. We let them pass through the territory but never a single bulgarian sodlier fought on their side. Greece denied the same request and were crushed in 1 week.
Jewish lobby is much stronger in the USA and thats the reason they talk more about that piece of history.
[QUOTE=Nick Young]
Yep I agree with you though, they're one of those races I never hear anyone defend if a racist remark is made about them. Not cool.[/QUOTE]
They deserve it, trust me.
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[QUOTE=millwad]In Sweden we have plenty of exchange students from east asia,[B][/B] mainly chinese and korean and I keep getting dumbfounded by how plenty of them behave.
I've been living in dorms with a shared kitchen before in Sweden and now I'm currently in one as well because me and my girlfriend are waiting to move in to our new apartment which we just bought.
Anyway, where I live now I share kitchen with 3 chinese, 2 korean and one jamaican student and the east asian students live like pigs. And it's been the same every time I've shared kitchen with east asian exchange students, they are socially retarded and they never speak with anyone who's not a fellow countrymen and they are dirty as hell. I've been doing their dishes since I got back from the US because the pigs never clean their stuff after cooking and they don't through out the garbage either.
I've been in a couple of East Asian countries before and I never experienced anything of what I'm seeing now. Is it the younger generation that is like this or what?
And yeah, CharlesOakley is a bitch.[/QUOTE]
If they are male they likely haven't a clue how to clean as they were more than likely coddled by their parents and never had to lift a finger (this may get in the way of perpetual cram school and homework hours).
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[QUOTE=fiddy]Theres also truth here. They organize begging rings and move to other countries. But i am too tired right now.
Little known fact is that Bulgaria is the only country that saved its jews during WW2. 45k lives were saved. On paper we were Germany ally but in reality not. After the war began Hitler quickly reached our north border with 1.5 million well trained and cutting edge technology army for the time. We had two chances to comply with them or fight them. We let them pass through the territory but never a single bulgarian sodlier fought on their side. Greece denied the same request and were crushed in 1 week.
Jewish lobby is much stronger in the USA and thats the reason they talk more about that piece of history.
They deserve it, trust me.[/QUOTE]
Props to Bulgaria.
Denmark and Albania also did good to save their jews. The King of Denmark supported and defended Danish Jews. Basically when Hitler asked for the Jews, the Danes said no, and Hitler did nothing to punish them and he did not forcibly extract Jews from Denmark. They were safe there. Maybe if every country had stood up to him like that the holocaust would not have been so big, but also maybe Hitler only allowed Denmark to do it because they were "Aryan." Many countries like Latvia and France and Serbia happily rounded up all their jews no questions asked and sent them to the slaughter.
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[QUOTE=brantonli]
Have you tried asking them to be quiet?[/QUOTE]
Well my studies are done but to answer your questions yes, I tried it a couple of times same with the rest of the corridor residents, what did I get as an answer? 15 expressionless Chinese looking at me wide eyed like they were surprised that I was addressing them. I dunno maybe they had a "we ignore you so you ignore us" kind of mentality.
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[QUOTE=fiddy]I though you were Romanian. Yeah theres a huge difference. Whole eastern Europe is plagued by them Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia and so on. [/QUOTE]
Cry me a river, in Sweden we have alot of issues with "ethnic" Romanian and Bulgarian foreign workers as well.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
These people ethnically do not belong to any of the mentioned nations. They are believed to originate from India, but no one knows for sure. The thing is that they are born here and according to the constitution they get citizenship. And on their ID/Passport under nationality it says Bulgarian/Romanian, you get the picture. I believe the situation is the same in many countries around the world, if a person is born on your land he gets citizenship.
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They do belong, I feel embarrassed by just reading your post because it's full of prejudice and stupidty and the first gypsies arrived to Europe around 1500 years ago. In you country, Bulgaria, there are reports that indicate that gypsies have been there since the 13th century which is even before your country existed.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
That tactic i think was massively used by emigrants from north African countries that want to migrate to France. For instance a whole family enters illegally France, while the wife is pregnant in the 8th month, she gives birth there and there you go a brand new citizen of France. And the whole family gets to stay and is entitled to social benefits.
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You obviously have no clue what you're talking about, if you really believe that you get citizenship just because you gave birth to your child in that particular country you're either ignorant or you live in an imaginary world. Sweden is one the most immigrant friendly countries in the world and even here that doesn't work.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
Back on the gypsies, they have been around for couple of hundred years. Their population has exploded in the last 20 years for some reason(after the fall of the communism). They usually live in a separate neighborhood which in most cases looks like the 3rd world. I've seen many pictures from Romania where they live in tents or abandoned buildings. They are uneducated, barely speak local languages. In my country the people that speak proper Bulgarian is probably less than 1 in 1000 (personal observation). They steal a lot (usually metal to sell for scrap or copper wires), domestic crime is something usual. Two weeks ago there's a dispute in one of those neighborhoods, two dead.
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A couple of hundreds years is in fact since the 13th century.
Also it's bogus that 1 of 1000 gypsies speak Bulgarian, 7.5% of the Bulgarian gypsies have your language as their mother tongue.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
Gypsies are recognized as good dancers/singers. But i hate their music because its moraly degrading and resembles too much oriental music.
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You hate everything about them so there's no surprise that you hate their music as well. Personally I couldn't care less what you think about their music but you're writing alot of misinformation.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
There was another publication about gypsies in Germany. There are LOTS of compaints, becasue some of them moved there, took over an abandoned building and settle there. And basically continue with their usual lifestyle filling for social benefits, which they are entitled to because they are EU citizens (which in western europe are IN SEVERAL TIMES higher than eastern) dumpster diving, a bit of stealing, begging, prostituation and so on.
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I like the fact that you seem to believe that people actually like stealing, begging, dumpster diving and prostitution.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
Physical they look different from ethnical, they seem to shorter than average bulgarians, and also their skin color is from light brown to dark brown. Very much resembling Indians.
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You've obviously never met a person from India if you really do believe that they look like gypsies. I would definitely say that "ethnic" Bulgarians look much more the same as the gypsies compared to gypsies and people from India.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
Couple of years ago France was so fed up with them they deported 1000 of them back to Romania and Bulgaria. Heres report this time about Norway complaing about them and even threatening to leave Shengen because of the problem.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUCse8D7Oo[/url]
The 1000 that were deported from France, were given 50(or 500 cant remember exactly) Euro and free plane ride back "home". Another win for the multicultural society of EU.[/QUOTE]
Well, they do in fact belong in Bulgaria and Romania so I don't see anything wrong with that.
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[QUOTE=millwad]I really want to believe that and these guys are nothing like the people I met when I was in East Asia and I always get amazed by the East Asian culture and history. I have no racist beliefs when it comes to asians or anyone else, don't get fooled by my lame punchlines about Godzuki, those were only because I wanted him to freak out.
But seriously, I've seen too many socially retarded and dirty exchange students from East Asia. I'm starting to think that these are the kids that have rich parents and who never had to work on their personalities or anything else because they were born with a silver spoon, it's mind boggling to see how these guys behave and how they interact with people who are not from the same country as themselves.[/QUOTE]
I am Vietnamese so I'd like to think I have some insight on this. FOBS are borderline retarded. They are rude as shit and have no social manners. Last time I was at the Lourve, some old chinese woman stepped across the rope barrier and started touching a painting. I just had to SMH. Alot of it is just the way people are raised, they have to really hustle for everything or else they get taken advantage of, that translates into no social skills whatsoever.
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Clueless little bitch. :roll: :roll:
I have no idea where to start. So you think after spending 15 minutes on google looking for some meaningless stats you got all the answers? :roll:OH MY GOD!
[QUOTE=millwad]Cry me a river, in Sweden we have alot of issues with "ethnic" Romanian and Bulgarian foreign workers as well. [/QUOTE]
Workers? If they are there to work you should throw a party.
[QUOTE=millwad]They do belong, I feel embarrassed by just reading your post because it's full of prejudice and stupidty and the first gypsies arrived to Europe around 1500 years ago. In you country, Bulgaria, there are reports that indicate that gypsies have been there since the 13th century which is even before your country existed. [/QUOTE]
My country was established in 681. Get your facts straight. In my highschool days I was discussing the issue with my geography teacher (she can teach history as well) and she told the story that they were brought in the 13th century from India as entertainers for the Byzantine emperor which capital is Constantinople (modern Instabul) right on the frontier between Europe and Asia. Cant confirm the story, doesnt matter. The sad fact is that they are here.
[QUOTE=millwad]You obviously have no clue what you're talking about, if you really believe that you get citizenship just because you gave birth to your child in that particular country you're either ignorant or you live in an imaginary world. Sweden is one the most immigrant friendly countries in the world and even here that doesn't work. [/QUOTE]
Ok teach me more :roll:
[QUOTE=millwad]Also it's bogus that 1 of 1000 gypsies speak Bulgarian, 7.5% of the Bulgarian gypsies have your language as their mother tongue. [/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll:
You seem to have missed one very important word “PROPER” its right there, I am not saying that 999 out of 1.000 don’t speak Bulgarian, im saying that they don’t speak proper/sufficient to have a normal conversation. I would have been more correct if I said that 1 of 1000 speaks and writes the formal language.
[QUOTE=millwad]You hate everything about them so there's no surprise that you hate their music as well. Personally I couldn't care less what you think about their music but you're writing alot of misinformation. [/QUOTE]
So whats you point after all? Do you have opinion on that oriental type garbage, I can give you the “lyrics”
[QUOTE=millwad]I like the fact that you seem to believe that people actually like stealing, begging, dumpster diving and prostitution. [/QUOTE] :roll: you seem to have missed the point once again. Ofc they do they do whatever they can to work as little as possible
[QUOTE=millwad]You've obviously never met a person from India if you really do believe that they look like gypsies. I would definitely say that "ethnic" Bulgarians look much more the same as the gypsies compared to gypsies and people from India. [/QUOTE] :
You seem to have perfect knowledge of every sub-ethnic type of Indian nationals?
Perfect logic, a country with a population of 1.2 billion+ all the people looks exactly the same? :roll:
[QUOTE=millwad]Well, they do in fact belong in Bulgaria and Romania so I don't see anything wrong with that.[/QUOTE]
And again they are citizens of the European Union my boy. They have the right and liberty work and live wherever they would like to? Isnt that what EU is about? :roll: Logic fail again, big time! This is like several families from Spain(for instance) decide to move to Germany and get deported for some ****ed phony reason? And on the way on entering the plane they are asked never to return again. There were minority organizations in my country that wanted to sue France in Strasburg.
If EU is so worried about gypsy integration why not integrate them In Stockholm or Brussels, they are EU citizens, the future of the Union. They are going to save us from the demographic crisis. :roll:
Would i suggest you not talk about issues you have never really seen/experienced.
If you hace 2 college degrees, my dog can get 5. **** outta here.
EDIT: BTW gypsies love indian movies especailly this one [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272118/[/url]
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[QUOTE=fiddy]
And again they are citizens of the European Union my boy. They have the right and liberty work and live wherever they would like to? Isnt that what EU is about? [/QUOTE]
Indeed, work[B] and[/B] live. Not and/or.
These gypsys do not have any occupation, so they can be deported to the country where they are citizens.
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[QUOTE=Deleterious]:roll:
Agreed, they don't work unless you count organized crime as working.
They are like Somalians I read somewhere all the Somalians Swedens have imported 9-10% work.
Rest of them are just parasites who leeches of the Swedish welfare system where they get free housing, free dental care, free healthcare, free drivers license, spending money. (Swedes only get healthcare of these mentioned.)
Of course once every week or two we see in the biggest newspapers how Somalians cry on the first page of the paper on how their kids can't afford Ipads and Iphones from the social welfare they get.[/QUOTE]
On local level they worked schemes to **** the system and get as much benefits as they could. Glad they changed the local law several years ago. Back then few of the educated ones created bogus comapanies and had bogus salaries in the amount x2 the average salary for the country. The salary ofcourse was never paid, except for the taxes that went to the state. So whats the big deal? After working for a year and getting laid off according to the old law you were entitled to worker compensation equal to 90% of your salary. So these mfers bring lets say 1200$ in taxes to the budget and receive back 10800$ in the next year without ever WORKING, CREATING PRODUCT, PROVIDING ANYTHING POSITIVE to the economy/society/humanity. leeches
There was a journalist investigation in Austria about the gypsy beggars with hidden camers and so on. These ****ers hustled as much as 50 euro PER HOUR then the guy at the top of the chain comes and takes the money beats the beggers and so on.
Some of the beggers INTENTIONALLY hurt themselves to get your symphaty and EXPOSE their wounds. I've seen people with missing feet and hands(this one had a cartoon box in his mouth).
I never give money to the beggers, sometimes when in the mood i ask them to buy him/her a lof of brea/slice of pizz/banitsa and you would very surpised to know that ive had many rejections they want the money :roll:
Guess what for?
I remember a one little fellow age 7-8 at most, he was begging in the parking lot of a hypermarket, i was with my sis and her boyfriend, we declined and enterned the store. Our way out he was smoking a cigarette, gave him a pack of waffles or something. You make whatever you want out of it.
[QUOTE=LJJ]Indeed, work[B] and[/B] live. Not and/or.
These gypsys do not have any occupation, so they can be deported to the country where they are citizens.[/QUOTE]
What if they are unemployed in the process of finding a job? Judging by your logic you can deport every foreigner that has spent two days in a country without doing anything.
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I use to share my bathroom with this filipino kid when I was a student on the Air Force and he never cleaned the bathroom not even once. My friend used to have a roommate who was a 21 year old filipino and he always had to yell at him to clean after himself too. I think the new generation is just disgusting.
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No country has as many rude and ignorant people as Poland. Polish people are the biggest jackasses on the planet. The women can be pretty hot but sleep with and marry men for money and are so up their own ass it makes me puke.
Slovaks and Russians are not far behind. And now I read that the UK is going to be invaded by bloody Romanians and Bulgarians next year. I am getting pissed of with this. Why can't people just stay in their own god damn country.
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[QUOTE=pinhead]No country has as many rude and ignorant people as Poland. Polish people are the biggest jackasses on the planet. The women can be pretty hot but sleep with and marry men for money and are so up their own ass it makes me puke.
Slovaks and Russians are not far behind. And now I read that the UK is going to be invaded by bloody Romanians and Bulgarians next year. I am getting pissed of with this. Why can't people just stay in their own god damn country.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing you are English? Do you have problems with Pakis, Indians, Caribbean people moving to the UK in large #'s?
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[QUOTE=knickballer]I'm guessing you are English? Do you have problems with Pakis, Indians, Caribbean people moving to the UK in large #'s?[/QUOTE]
Indians and Pakistanis are respectful and good people on the whole. It is Eastern Europeans who I have a problem with. Can't stand the dumbasses.
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[QUOTE=fiddy]Clueless little bitch. :roll: :roll:
I have no idea where to start. So you think after spending 15 minutes on google looking for some meaningless stats you got all the answers? :roll:OH MY GOD!
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Haha, you're so pathetic.
You go on rants racist rants and you get butthurt when someone tells you that the gypsies are just as much as Bulgarian as you are.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
Workers? If they are there to work you should throw a party.
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I meant the one's you call your "own", Bulgarians who work in Sweden, you're so stupid that it's not even funny.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
My country was established in 681. Get your facts straight. In my highschool days I was discussing the issue with my geography teacher (she can teach history as well) and she told the story that they were brought in the 13th century from India as entertainers for the Byzantine emperor which capital is Constantinople (modern Instabul) right on the frontier between Europe and Asia. Cant confirm the story, doesnt matter. The sad fact is that they are here.
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I wrote the wrong thing, the reference I made about gypsies being in Europe since 1500 years ago was meant to make you understand the fact that it's very likely that there existed gypsies on the land that would become Bulgaria.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
Ok teach me more :roll:
:roll: :roll:
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Such a clown, nice answer after getting schooled.
[QUOTE=fiddy]
You seem to have missed one very important word
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[QUOTE=fiddy]
What if they are unemployed in the process of finding a job? Judging by your logic you can deport every foreigner that has spent two days in a country without doing anything.[/QUOTE]
Looking for a job is not a valid reason for legal residency. Not within the EU nor anywhere else.
They could come as tourists, but alas, not without money whilst living on the streets.
You seem incredibly ignorant of what the EU actually is.
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[QUOTE=pinhead]No country has as many rude and ignorant people as Poland. Polish people are the biggest jackasses on the planet. The women can be pretty hot but sleep with and marry men for money and are so up their own ass it makes me puke.
Slovaks and Russians are not far behind. And now I read that the UK is going to be invaded by bloody Romanians and Bulgarians next year. I am getting pissed of with this. Why can't people just stay in their own god damn country.[/QUOTE]
What is it with the english and the polish? Some brits even resent Froch for having polish grandparents :oldlol: .
The brits are angry already at the romanians and bulgarians cause they work for cheaper. Most english people that work in construction have to settle for less.
Pinhead, if people stayed in their country we wouldnt have had the United States. Without the US, Germany might have won the world war and you'd now be speaking deutsch unless you were jewish...cause now i would be talking to soap. If people had your mentality we'd still be living in the Middle Ages.
Everyone can work and live his life wherever he wants as long as its legal. People hating on them because they were born somewhere else are simple minded and probably have a poor education.
Also, Millwad, dont argue with fiddy. He is right in most of what he says. Only thing i recall differently is that the gypsies were brought as slaves, to work the field, pretty much same as black people in the US. Might be wrong though.