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StrongLurk 04-05-2018 03:38 PM

Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Kyrie, Wade, Love and Bosh are chronically injured and pretty much never have a healthy season with Lebron.

Pretty crazy to think Lebron has won 3 Finals MVPs with his best help often playing at 50 percent or not playing at all.

ArbitraryWater 04-05-2018 03:41 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
its insane.

Won the 2012 title w/o Bosh at a time where teams with BIG THREE's dominated.

Same in 2016 w/o Love.

Only Bron could pull those.

And in 2015 he was scraped of BOTH his sidekicks and STILL nearly won.

Unfckinbelieavble this guy

StrongLurk 04-05-2018 03:46 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
its insane.

Won the 2012 title w/o Bosh at a time where teams with BIG THREE's dominated.

Same in 2016 w/o Love.

Only Bron could pull those.

And in 2015 he was scraped of BOTH his sidekicks and STILL nearly won.

Unfckinbelieavble this guy


Could you imagine if Shaq was injured and missed two of the three finals he made with the Lakers? The implications...

SouBeachTalents 04-05-2018 03:53 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
That's another reason why blowing it in 2011 was such a disgrace, he had Wade & Bosh fully healthy that season & playoffs

tpols 04-05-2018 03:56 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
off the top of my head, wade played in every one of the Heat's playoff games all four seasons. Bosh played full runs 3 seasons and half of one, Kyrie and Love both played B2B full runs regular season and playoffs...Theyve suffered from poor fit much more than injury.

StrongLurk 04-05-2018 03:57 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
That's another reason why blowing it in 2011 was such a disgrace, he had Wade & Bosh fully healthy that season & playoffs


True, although the rest of the Heat team were literally corpses and d-leaguers, also the Heat had zero offensive system in place.

Bosh also played like crap in those finals, only Wade showed up (although Wade was trash against the Bulls the series before while Lebron and Bosh were awesome).

tpols 04-05-2018 03:59 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
its insane.

Won the 2012 title w/o Bosh at a time where teams with BIG THREE's dominated.

Same in 2016 w/o Love.

Only Bron could pull those.

And in 2015 he was scraped of BOTH his sidekicks and STILL nearly won.

Unfckinbelieavble this guy



Chris Bosh and Kevin Love both played in 2012 and 2016. Love missed one game that his team won by 25 points, and Bosh played 14 including all the Finals games. You guys are just making shit up at this point.

StrongLurk 04-05-2018 03:59 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpols
off the top of my head, wade played in every one of the Heat's playoff games all four seasons. Bosh played full runs 3 seasons and half of one, Kyrie and Love both played B2B full runs regular season and playoffs...Theyve suffered from poor fit much more than injury.


Wade was clearly running around 50 percent in 2013 and 2014, Love misses a ton of time every year and in the playoffs/finals, same with Kyrie as you can clearly see. Bosh will die if he plays again.

ArbitraryWater 04-05-2018 04:00 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
That's another reason why blowing it in 2011 was such a disgrace, he had Wade & Bosh fully healthy that season & playoffs


what? how is that another reason? that should be the norm. it doesnt make it any worse otherwise it wouldnt be bad to begin with

StrongLurk 04-05-2018 04:01 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpols
Chris Bosh and Kevin Love both played in 2012 and 2016. Love missed one game that his team won by 25 points, and Bosh played 14 including all the Finals games. You guys are just making shit up at this point.


Didn't Love miss a game and a half because of a concussion? That clearly messed him up considering he only averaged like 9 points a game in those finals.

Are you really telling us that Love, Kyrie and Wade are models of good health and consistent playing???? Bosh will die if he plays again.

ArbitraryWater 04-05-2018 04:02 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpols
Chris Bosh and Kevin Love both played in 2012 and 2016. Love missed one game that his team won by 25 points, and Bosh played 14 including all the Finals games. You guys are just making shit up at this point.


what are you talking about?

Love missed the second half, then the next game, and could only play another half of the next game...

missed 2 games and everything after was muddy.

Bosh missed 10 games in 2012 and came back on minute restriction.

Wade missed a game in 2013 and the next round had to leave the court against Chicago due to knee issues, and played limited minutes in the finals.

I didnt even mention that.

tpols 04-05-2018 04:06 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StrongLurk
Wade was clearly running around 70 percent in 2013-2014, Love misses a ton of time every year and in the playoffs/finals, same with Kyrie as you can clearly see. Bosh will die if he plays again.





the only reason love missed rs time is because of Clevalands coasting culture... they rest their stars to save energy for playoffs. How has he regularly missed time in the playoffs when hes missed one playoff game in the past two years? Kyrie's missed no playoff games the past two years yet he regularly misses playoff games? excuse me... misses a ton of playoff games? what? you're plain just makin shit up mang

tpols 04-05-2018 04:10 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
what are you talking about?

Love missed the second half, then the next game, and could only play another half of the next game...

missed 2 games and everything after was muddy.

Bosh missed 10 games in 2012 and came back on minute restriction.

Wade missed a game in 2013 and the next round had to leave the court against Chicago due to knee issues, and played limited minutes in the finals.

I didnt even mention that.


Bosh played against OKC with no minutes restriction full workload just like all the starters... so thats not true.

in '13 Wade also played more minutes than anybody on the spurs or Heat other than Lebron and had his by far best series of that run in the Finals. If he was on a minute restriction... then EVERY body from both teams other than LBJ was on a minute restriction.

:wtf:

LAmbruh 04-05-2018 04:11 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
People forget that Kyrie was out 1/2 the reg season in 2016 and battling the same knee/ankle injury all through the post season

Love's concussion was a heavy burden on Cavs, amazing how Lebron and company was able to overpower that

ArbitraryWater 04-05-2018 04:21 PM

Re: Lebron rarely has healthy all-stars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpols
Bosh played against OKC with no minutes restriction full workload just like all the starters... so thats not true.

in '13 Wade also played more minutes than anybody on the spurs or Heat other than Lebron and had his by far best series of that run in the Finals. If he was on a minute restriction... then EVERY body from both teams other than LBJ was on a minute restriction.

:wtf:


Bosh came back on minute restriction AFTER missing 10 games, go look at bball ref.

Wade sat large portions of 4th quarters because he was so detrimental. did he even play in the game 6 4th q? Lol.

Wade did 19.6 on 47.6% FG with a terribly negative +/-, that was his best series of the run?


Jezuz fck, LeBron's support indeed has been pathetic.


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